Tour of Oman - Stage 2


drheaton, February 12, 2013

Its 45 minutes to transfer deadline and I have no idea what to do

Half tempted to swap out Breschel and Bouhanni for Gilbert and Phinney but my original plan was to make no transfer and have 6 for the Green Mountain stage.

Is today really going to be as tough as it looks?

Ive took out Ellisonde and GVA for Phinney and Danny Van Poppel. Don't think its gonna be that tough, but I think its gonna be a sprint for Sagan and Boonen rather than a Viviani or Bouhanni

4 transfers for stage 4 for me it will be

posted by TERatcliffe26 [2292 posts] 12th February 2013 - 7:44

Hmmm, now is the point at which I regret not forcing Sagan into my team but I guess if I leave things as they are I'm set for tomorrow. And I have a couple of people who may compete, decision made, no transfers, my team is:

Bouhanni
Kristoff
Kittel
Boonen
Gallopin
Appollonio
Fortin
Iglinsky
Breschel

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 7:52

I think it'll be a Sagan/Gilbert/Meersman day.

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posted by obutterwick [294 posts] 12th February 2013 - 8:07

I think I may have made an error with my team Thinking

posted by TERatcliffe26 [2292 posts] 12th February 2013 - 8:15

I can't see too many having Meersman though, he's bloody expensive at 22 credits.

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 8:15

Haha, I may live to regret putting him in. My 133 yesterday wasn't as good as I'd hoped, after playing safe with selections. Time for a risk...!

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posted by obutterwick [294 posts] 12th February 2013 - 8:25

Traksel again in a break.

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posted by obutterwick [294 posts] 12th February 2013 - 8:41

I'm clueless on this - I've worked on the assumption that today/tomorrow may be fairly tough finishes, so if they are full bunch sprints I won't be scoring very high.

I brought in Boonen for Degenkolb but it was more a trigger-happy transfer than something that I can even retrospectively apply any logic to...

So, Degenkolb to win?

posted by chrisdstripes [524 posts] 12th February 2013 - 8:49

Summary of yesterdays stage is on eurosport 2 now

posted by TERatcliffe26 [2292 posts] 12th February 2013 - 9:07

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Gap has grown to 5:40 as Traksel (CSS) and Uchima (JPN) approach the first intermediate sprint (32K). #TOO13

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 9:17

Correction

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Tour of Oman - LIVE‏@TourofOman_live

Wrong rider number earlier. Apologies. It is Kinoshita not Uchima of Team Japan in the break. Sprint 1: 1. Traksel 2. Kinoshita 3. Kittel.

so

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Tour of Oman - LIVE‏@TourofOman_live

Kittel (ARG) earns 1 bonus second for 3rd place in the intermediate sprint to further extend his lead in on GC + points competition. #TOO13

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 9:48

My Team
Peter Sagan
Philippe Gilbert
Nacer Bouhanni
Danny Van Poppel
Joseph Dombrowski
Nikias Arndt
Greg van Avermaet
Davide Appollonio
Dario Cataldo

Taken 10 point penalty dropping Goss, Bewley & Fortin!

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posted by livestrongnick [555 posts] 12th February 2013 - 10:09

tricky stage today i dumepd goss for sagan my gues its to hard for goss
but he did well in TDU so it could be a bad move
boonen has been injuried so i don't think he will be up to it today
as for BMC my gues is they will go for gilbert or greg
degenkolb could even win here or not even be top 10

posted by The Instigator [57 posts] 12th February 2013 - 10:28

In the end, that was the decidiing factor for me in not making transfers, it's just too unpredictable.

There's no guarantee that making transfers would put me in a better position today whereas not making them puts me in a solid position for tomorrow and a much better position for the stage to Green Mountain.

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 10:46

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Tour of Oman - LIVE‏@TourofOman_live

38K left to race. Gap down to 4:00 for Traksel (CSS) and Kinoshita (JPN). The two race leaders have been away for 108K. #TOO13

Should come back together but it's been slow so far today, does that mean sprinters have a chance or that the climbers and stronger riders will just blast away on the climb with fresh legs?

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 11:30

I made 4 transfers Thinking. I couldn't leave Kittel, Kristoff, and Viviani in my team knowing they almost certainly won't be fighting for the win today. I also reluctantly got rid of Bouhanni because otherwise I couldn't afford Sagan. I know it's a risk, but it felt like the right decision last night...

posted by Wig_Billy [407 posts] 12th February 2013 - 11:32

Everyone is buying Sagan for today, I guess I'm the only person to cut him after the first stage. Will I look like a fool in an hour's time? Possibly.

posted by chokofingrz [31 posts] 12th February 2013 - 11:51

Twitter says Sagan was first and Gallopin 2nd in a leading group of 10 that had 19 seconds on the bunch

posted by Kingrolo [18 posts] 12th February 2013 - 12:22

1 Sagan
2 Gallopin
3 Elmiger
4 Nibali
5 Stybar
6 Froome
7 Bandiera
8 Marcato
9 Impey
10 Bouhanni

posted by simon F [462 posts] 12th February 2013 - 12:24

1 and 2 this time. I just don't seem to be able to get my Podium badge.

posted by simon F [462 posts] 12th February 2013 - 12:25

Well, at least I got Sagan right. Now attention switches to Volta ao Algarve.

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posted by obutterwick [294 posts] 12th February 2013 - 12:26

11. Gianni Meersman.
12. Stijn Vandenbergh.
13. Geoffrey Soupe.
14. Sergey Lagutin.
15. Maciej Bodnar.
16. Rinaldo Nocentini

posted by simon F [462 posts] 12th February 2013 - 12:30

I think my transfers just about paid off, but it could've been better.

posted by Wig_Billy [407 posts] 12th February 2013 - 12:30

My transfers cost me 2 points. Brought in Meersman for Impey Sad

posted by simon F [462 posts] 12th February 2013 - 12:34

Ouch, had a shocker today (Sagan aside). Clearly the Middle East disagrees with me.

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posted by Ghedebrav [143 posts] 12th February 2013 - 12:37

Got 1 and 2 but made a mistake swapping Bouhanni for Boonen. Gilbert nowhere! Still got an extra transfer though!

posted by Alan Tullett [704 posts] 12th February 2013 - 12:42

2 and 10, glad I didn't make any transfers now! Wouldn't have been able to bring in Sagan and anyone else I considered was nowhere.

I'm pretty happy Big Grin

Edit: 74 points, should keep me up there somewhere and hopefully I might even be top ten in the purist comp.

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 13:33

http://www.letour.com/2013/TOO/LIVE/us/200/classement/index.html

Traksel got Lanterne Rouge! That man must have a fantasy team, why else would be racking up so many points?!

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 13:31

i was afraid for that to happen when he stopt riding
at the KOM numer 1 GC did a real good pick by taking him:)

posted by The Instigator [57 posts] 12th February 2013 - 13:49

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posted by Gkam84 [5945 posts] 12th February 2013 - 14:11

Hurray! High Roller badge (currently 6th in purist comp on my standard team) and sitting 20th in the ToO overall. I'm enjoying this one!

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 14:12

Stage 4/5 is my great hopes as both my teams are based around that, Saving my transfers so I'll have 6

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posted by Gkam84 [5945 posts] 12th February 2013 - 14:24

Ditto, made no transfers for today, planning on none for tomorrow so I've got 6 for Green Mountain. Nice to see some of the big guys coming to the fore today though, gives an inclination as to who's up for it.

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 14:33

Rubbish for my standard team

Having 1st and 2nd was solid for my Purist team at least

posted by TERatcliffe26 [2292 posts] 12th February 2013 - 15:13

Bad times for me Crying red arrows all over my league page Worried
Gone sprint heavy to try and get my 180 badge! If that fails only need 133 for my 2000 badge..... Big Grin

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posted by livestrongnick [555 posts] 12th February 2013 - 15:45

Nice one, hope you get that badge soon.

I thought it was for 2000 in a tour Thinking

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posted by Gkam84 [5945 posts] 12th February 2013 - 16:12

Nah, it's 'a season score of 2000 or more' otherwise who's going to get 10k points in a single race Surprise

If things keep going well then I should hit 2k during the Oman/Algarve cross over.

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 16:39

Season score of 2k or more.
Wig_Billy and Alan Tullet are 2 of 12 to have it already.
As for the 180. only went over 180 4 times last season, so fingers crossed!
7maybe we could get a 200 point badge? Thinking

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posted by livestrongnick [555 posts] 12th February 2013 - 16:40

The one that's bugging me is the podium badge. It's the only one I haven't got apart from the season-long score badges. I can see me going all season and not getting it. Crying

posted by simon F [462 posts] 12th February 2013 - 16:44

I finally got the podium badge on stage one of Oman, before that I'd picked two of the first three about 7 times including a couple of occasions with three of the top four. Its hard to get but if you're getting close then you're bound to get it sooner or later.

The ones that worry me are the top ten in a comp and podium on a stage. As the season goes on and more people start to play its only going to get harder to get those.

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 17:04

drheaton wrote:
I finally got the podium badge on stage one of Oman, before that I'd picked two of the first three about 7 times including a couple of occasions with three of the top four. Its hard to get but if you're getting close then you're bound to get it sooner or later.

Pretty much the same as me with the exception that you've finally succeeded.
drheaton wrote:
The ones that worry me are the top ten in a comp and podium on a stage. As the season goes on and more people start to play its only going to get harder to get those.

I know what you mean, I was just lucky with the ToQ. That and the Tour of California were my two best results last season as well, It seems to come down to whether you're lucky enough or knowledgeable enough to get a good start in a shorter race where it's harder for anyone to catch up. More luck then judgement in my case I think.

posted by simon F [462 posts] 12th February 2013 - 17:53

Got 9/12 badges now. Podium on a stage is going to be tricky but I've won one stage a year in the TdF for the last two years, which is usually my best comp apart from TDU. Last year ToQ and ToO were a bit of a disaster so I'm very pleased to be 5th overall and doing ok in Oman so far, although I'm not keeping back as many transfers for green mountain as I intended to. I never can resist the siren call of a transfer that's just begging to be done.

I remember this stage was quite a tough one last year and broke up near the end so who knows what will happen.

Will Sagan have a go on green mountain; he can climb but will he be bothered? What do you think?

posted by Alan Tullett [704 posts] 12th February 2013 - 18:41

Sagan is an enigma, there's no knowing what he might do. If he's after the classics then a bit of climbing might be good prep for MSR but he may be happy with today and take it easy, it could go either way.

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 18:50

Viviani might be the lead sprinter tomorrow but I'm not going to change Sagan at the mo as it would be too risky. But if he got bonus secs tomorrow he'd have something to defend with the possibility of more bonus secs to come. But I expect him to sit up or at least not try too hard. on Thurs.

posted by Alan Tullett [704 posts] 12th February 2013 - 19:08

My races so far this season have been nothing short of crap. Way down in all the leagues and only 1 badge.

But as the song goes "things can only get better".

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posted by stumps [1232 posts] 12th February 2013 - 19:31

Well, I think I'll stick with these guys again tomorrow...they did quite well today.

Peter Sagan (LIQ)
Tony Gallopin (RSN)
Nacer Bouhanni (FDJ)
Filippo Fortin (COG)
Marcel Kittel (ARG)
Kenny van Hummel (VCD)
Marko Kump (SAX)
Davide Appollonio (ALM)
Danny Van Poppel (VCD)

And then froome can join the fray for ther green mountain thingy thang

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posted by JAndrewHill [801 posts] 12th February 2013 - 20:33

Is it a sprint tommorow or climbing?

posted by spurs810 [67 posts] 12th February 2013 - 21:35

spurs810 wrote:
Is it a sprint tommorow or climbing?

A little lumpy rather thsn an uphill finish...

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posted by JAndrewHill [801 posts] 12th February 2013 - 21:38

Ah ok, the sprinters might prefer that then, and the green mont' is tommorow is it?

posted by spurs810 [67 posts] 12th February 2013 - 21:41

Green Mountain is stage 4 I think which is Thursday. Tomorrow will likely be a sprint finish but perhaps a slightly tougher one than the first stage.

posted by drheaton [1825 posts] 12th February 2013 - 21:51

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