Fantasy Directeur Sportif Challenge

by drheaton   January 21, 2013  

Not sure if you've seen it but in case you lot haven't, I've challenged TERatcliffe this year to pick a squad of riders and try and run a 'proper' fantasy team through the season.

We'll both be blogging about it through the year and the first posts are up (http://road.cc/blog).  Anyway, you lot are free to pick your own squads too and keep us all informed of how you're doing either on here or in the blog comments.  I've set up a league and if you've got any questions, let me know.

EDIT

If you want to take part the list of rider values you'll need is here http://db.tt/1rO7IFhq and check out my post here http://road.cc/content/blog/74271-big-unveil for rules etc.

RUNNING UPDATE:

World Tour Points - 1037 total / 851 based on top 5 riders

Fantasy points total: 2583

 

115 user comments

Latest 30 commentsNewest firstBest ratedAll

robdaykin wrote:
Fine. The 150 would have meant you dropping 1 or 2 riders today, which is not exactly fair, given you only have 7 anyway. Albeit possibly 7 of the top 10.

Maybe we should have made it clearer at the start. Also Ive left your Iglinsky points in, both WT and fantasy, so I presume they were not in your 1234 (so you had 1275 before I started scoring). As a presume you would have picked him else. I had to do your overall total slightly differently as I didnt have the rider breakdown scores (for your riders that were not in either mine or Dans team) pre Catalunya.

(removed my email address now Ive just got yours) I will be able to send the spreadsheet to you, as I do Dan, with all the scores on, after every couple of events

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3890 posts]
24th March 2013 - 19:02

like this
Like (4)

robdaykin wrote:
Sudden daft thought. If Sky seriously want to win a Classic they should get Wiggo to ride as a DS in one of the Spring races.

I've just watched the Crit highlights from ITV4 last night, and at the end they announced are going to do highlights programmes of Roubaix and LBL on the race day. LBL of course, according to Mr Boulting being one of Wiggo's targets for this season.

I nearly fell off my chair...

posted by robdaykin [160 posts]
25th March 2013 - 20:12

like this
Like (6)

Right guys two races this weekend, Flanders Sunday followed by Pais Vasco Monday.

No Gilbert makes it easy for me with exactly 9 riders for Flanders, I have you with 8 Dan and an exact 9 for you too Rob.

Just about to look at Pais Vasco teams now

Also will send you out the spreadsheet after Roubaix/Pais Vasco have finished next weekend

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3890 posts]
28th March 2013 - 17:59

like this
Like (5)

For Pais Vasco I have exactly 9, Dan has 8 and Rob you have 12 to choose from so just let me know your final lineup when you decide

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3890 posts]
28th March 2013 - 18:17

like this
Like (7)

In order of preference:

VAN GARDEREN Tejay
TALANSKY Andrew
DE GENDT Thomas
IZAGUIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka
FUGLSANG Jakob
ROCHE Nicholas
ROY Jérémy
VOIGT Jens
RIBLON Christophe

with
TIERNAN-LOCKE Jonathan
ZANDIO ECHAIDE Xabier
SCHLECK Andy

as reserves in case anyone drops out before Monday.
I have a feeling Sky will be pushing Porte's cause at the expense of JTL and Xandio again, and stone dead last doesn't earn WT points...

thanks

posted by robdaykin [160 posts]
29th March 2013 - 11:18

like this
Like (5)

Got you with 10 now for Pais Vasco Dan, as Gilbert and Kreder are no riding

I had 10 too also, decided to take a punt on Schleck over Boswell

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3890 posts]
30th March 2013 - 12:44

like this
Like (5)

All good

Its all very tight between us, I need some WT points from Contador and Ulissi as I doubt I will get any from P-R

We are all easily ahead of Sky on WT with our total scores, and all still ahead based on our top 5 riders.

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3890 posts]
1st April 2013 - 13:18

like this
Like (9)

Its not a surprise at this stage as Sky always suck in the classics. If Gilbert hits form for Ardennes then I hope I can build enough of a lead to offset any ground I'll lose when Froome wins the TdF.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
1st April 2013 - 13:24

like this
Like (9)

Bet you regret leaving out Betancurt now, he is in mine Smile

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3890 posts]
3rd April 2013 - 21:02

like this
Like (7)

Right, selection from 12 for my team:

Sanchez
Quintana
Gilbert
Roche
Tiernan-Locke
Betancurt
Lutsenko
Kreder (M)
Barguil

Not riding:
Schleck
Vanendert
Nordhaug

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
3rd April 2013 - 22:22

like this
Like (5)

One second...

Ahem, I don't know what you're talking about, he's in my team!

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
3rd April 2013 - 22:23

like this
Like (3)

I'm not overly bothered actually, its the WT points that matter most and that's done on my 12 top riders so he'll count for that.

Its annoying that I've been picking him only for him to score big when I don't but he's in my standard team so I don't feel too bad. Hopefully he can hold on to a solid top 10 now and bag me some serious WT points.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
3rd April 2013 - 22:33

like this
Like (7)

In the meantime I get 1st and 2nd at a non WT, non Fantasy race...

After slipping up on day one, Fuglsang has been careful to not accidentally end up in the top ten and score some more WT points. The rest of the team seem to be happy supporting this by also riding just outside the top 20.

Thanks heavens for Fabian. I only hope falling yesterday hasn't spoilt this weekend.

And Laurent Pichon keeps churning out top 10s in the Continental 1 days. I'm trying to work out if that's promising or not given that he's 26 and in his 4th season. At least he's consistent, and showing the jersey in places I hadn't anticipated.

posted by robdaykin [160 posts]
4th April 2013 - 7:20

like this
Like (7)

Cancellara has been great for me, Boonen has been a bust. But that's why I picked all of the major classics riders, to cover myself in case something happened. Another win from Cancellara on Sunday and I'll consider my classics season a success whatever happens in the Ardennes.

EDIT: Also, a win for Durbridge at Circuit Cycliste Sarthe is nice as so far he hadn't done much this season. Shame it's not WT.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
4th April 2013 - 8:12

like this
Like (6)

drheaton wrote:
One second...

Ahem, I don't know what you're talking about, he's in my team!

You mean now you have swapped both Vanendert and Nordhaug for Betancurt and Lutsenko! Devil Nerd

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3890 posts]
4th April 2013 - 9:22

like this
Like (7)

TERatcliffe26 wrote:
drheaton wrote:
One second...

Ahem, I don't know what you're talking about, he's in my team!

You mean now you have swapped both Vanendert and Nordhaug for Betancurt and Lutsenko! Devil Nerd

Vanendert? Never heard of him, and who's this Nordhaug character?

Not bothered really, like I said, my main aim for the year is based around WT points and the major tours so while it'd be nice to have the fantasy points it's not the end of the world.

Just to check your understanding, WT standings at the end of the year will be done like the proper teams right with the top 12 scoring riders' totals being added together? I can't be bothered to get into the realms of the UCI's 'sporting criteria' they use for allocating licenses, it's massively complicated...

http://inrng.com/2013/04/uci-publish-sporting-criteria/

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
4th April 2013 - 9:51

like this
Like (4)

You can have the points, cant see Betancurt in the top 10 after the ITT anyway

Yeh that is correct, I just have total points at the moment as its easier as the races keep on going, but it will be easy to add it up for top 12

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3890 posts]
4th April 2013 - 10:01

like this
Like (6)

I haven't checked actual scores but I don't think this weekend could have gone much better for me, Quintana winning Pais Vasco and a 1,2 at Paris-Roubaix, WT points galore!

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
7th April 2013 - 15:32

like this
Like (5)

drheaton wrote:
I haven't checked actual scores but I don't think this weekend could have gone much better for me, Quintana winning Pais Vasco and a 1,2 at Paris-Roubaix, WT points galore!

Im not sure you should be allowed the Betancurt points

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3890 posts]
7th April 2013 - 15:43

like this
Like (10)

TERatcliffe26 wrote:
drheaton wrote:
I haven't checked actual scores but I don't think this weekend could have gone much better for me, Quintana winning Pais Vasco and a 1,2 at Paris-Roubaix, WT points galore!

Im not sure you should be allowed the Betancurt points

Boo!

From a simplicity point of view I think the WT points should count because at the end of the year its going to be too hard to strip out points for riders based on when we did and didn't pick them. He's in my squad so I think I should get the points.

It may be though that come the year end they aren't used if 12 other guys score more than him.

I'm happy though for the fantasy points to be disregarded.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
7th April 2013 - 15:48

like this
Like (6)

how is it, that after a great ride by one of my team, topping a Classics season that has so far been littered with wins and podiums, that somehow I feel as though I've come last... ?

drheaton wrote:
I haven't checked actual scores but I don't think this weekend could have gone much better for me, Quintana winning Pais Vasco and a 1,2 at Paris-Roubaix, WT points galore!

Mind you, as Fabian was powering into the stadium, I was grabbing a Strava KOM, and by a decent margin. So not all bad.

Roll on all those 1 week Tours where someone has no serious GC contenders :-P

posted by robdaykin [160 posts]
7th April 2013 - 19:34

like this
Like (10)

Speaking of which, here;s my team for Romandie:

Astarloza, Roy, Talansky, Cav, Rasch, Hoogerland, de Gendt.

Which is thinner than I thought it might be.

Sorry I've not be around much the last couple of weeks, been travelling with work, so I've not had much time to do anything with my team, as reflected by my plummet down the Spring Classics competition board. I'm pretty sure I've not had a full team at any of the recent races, so that's a bit poor. Anyway now I'm back, hopefully I'll get some time to focus on the Giro.

posted by robdaykin [160 posts]
22nd April 2013 - 8:05

like this
Like (6)

I need to try and work out how I've done, I meant to do another blog before the Ardennes but work was crazy so that never happened.

Think I'll just write a bumper one catching up the classics, Romandie, Pais Vasco and Catalunya (oh man it's been too long since I wrote the last one) and looking ahead to the Giro. Best get cracking.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
22nd April 2013 - 8:58

like this
Like (5)

drheaton wrote:
I need to try and work out how I've done, I meant to do another blog before the Ardennes but work was crazy so that never happened.

Think I'll just write a bumper one catching up the classics, Romandie, Pais Vasco and Catalunya (oh man it's been too long since I wrote the last one) and looking ahead to the Giro. Best get cracking.

I will send you the spreadsheet. The classics races Ive just put riders in who started, and made sure anyone who scored any points were in

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3890 posts]
22nd April 2013 - 10:10

like this
Like (4)

Evening all, it's a bit late but I've posted my update:

http://road.cc/content/blog/82321-time-flies

Looking forward to the Giro my team looks good:

Wiggins
Kelderman
Sanchez
Betancur
Durbridge
Cavendish
Bouhanni
Cattaneo

are all announced so far so I have high hopes.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
1st May 2013 - 20:34

like this
Like (6)

Right Ive been rather busy and not got round to doing a blog, so am gonna wait until the end of the Tour.

However it looks as though you have choice in which riders to choose for the Tour, so if you could let me know your teams for keeping scores

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3890 posts]
29th June 2013 - 9:40

like this
Like (6)

OK, my team is

Cavendish
Bouhanni
Kittel
Roche
Westra
Quintana
Gilbert
Lutsenko
Schleck

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
29th June 2013 - 11:23

like this
Like (2)

oops. forgot I needed to pick a team. Hmmmm tough,. Seeing as I seem to have picked too many TdF riders....

Sprinters
Cav
Kittel

GC
TJ
Talansky
Fuglsang
de Gendt

KOM
Gorka Iazgirre
Roche

And of course
Jens Voigt. How could I leave him out?

posted by robdaykin [160 posts]
29th June 2013 - 20:38

like this
Like (7)

So, the Tour is over, and my main goal of the year is passed. Looking ahead, new goals, and next year, how we carry on this experiment. But for now, how have the team done?

First off the Tour review

Tour de France

7 Stages, the first, the last and the double climb of Alpe d'Huez.
2 riders in the top 10
4 most combative rider on stage awards, and the most combative rider in the race

10 stages where we were represented in the breakaways
Pretty much every stage, there's been some reason to mention one of the team, which pleases the sponsors.

Stages


Stage 1 – Marcel Kittel 1st
Stage 5 – Cav 1st.
Stage 6, Kittel 3rd, Cav 4th
Stage 9 Fuglsang 2nd
Stage 10, Kittel 1st, Cav 3rd
Stage 11, de Gendt 3rd, Roy 8th
Stage 12, Kittel 1st, Cav 2nd,
Stage 13, Cav 1st, Fuglsang 4th
Stage 15, Fuglsang 7th
Stage 16, Riblon 2nd, Astarloza 7th
Stage 17 Fuglsang 8th, Talansky 9th van Garderen 10th
Stage 18 Riblon 1st, van Garderen 2nd, Fuglsang 10th
Stage 20 Talansky 6th
Stage 21 Kittel 1st Cav 3rd

Jerseys


Kittel Yellow, Green and White after stage 1, Green after Stage 2

Breakaways


de Gendt Stage 5
Voigt stage 7
Hoogerland and Riblon stage 8
Fuglsang stage 9
Cav and Roche in the 1st echelon stage 13
Voigt, Talansky, van garderen stage 14
Riblon and Roy, stage 15
Riblon, Roche, Astarloza, de Gendt, Hoogerland stage 16
van Garderen, Riblon, Voigt stage 18
Voigt stage 20 **, van Garderen, Riblon

Most Combative


de Gendt stage 5
Cav stage 13
Riblon stage 18
Voigt stage 20
Overall Riblon

Other points


mountain points


5. de Gendt 2,1,1
7. Voigt 1,3
9. De Gendt 5 Fuglsang 8
14. Voigt 1, van Garderen 1, Talansky 1
15. de Gendt 1, Roy 2, Riblon 1
16. Hoogerland 5, Riblon 2
18. Riblon 1, 20, 3, 50 Voigt 2, 14, 2, van Garderen 16, 5, 40, Fuglsang 4
19 Riblon 16, Hoogerland 4
20 Voigt 2, 10, Riblon 1, 4 van Garderen 1, Talansky 20

intermediate sprint points


1. Cav 9
2. Cav 8, Kittel 2
3. Kittel 10, Cav 8
5. de Gendt 20, Cav 6
6. Cav 17
8. Hoogerland 20, Riblon 13, Cav 9, de Gendt 5
9. de Gendt 20,
10. Cav 8, de Gendt 3
12 Cav 10
13 Cav 17
14 Voigt 10, van Garderen 5, Talansky 2
15 Roy 11, Riblon 7, Cav 5
16 de Gendt 20, Hoogerland 17, Riblon 9
18 Riblon 15, van Garderen 11, Voigt 9, Roche 5
20 Riblon 17, Voigt 10, Astarloza 8, Cav 4

Overall GC


Fuglsang 7th
Talansky 10th
Schleck 20th
Riblon 37th
Roche 40th
Astarloza 42nd
TJ 45th
Voigt 67th
de Gendt 96th
Hoogerland 101st
Roy 126th
Cav 148th
Kittel 166th

Year to date

As for the year to date, I laid out some goals early on:

robdaykin wrote:

For me the team goal is to entertain the spectators, so lots of breaks, lots of combative riding and pleasing the sponsors. Targetted races are the 1 day races and GTs. GT goals will vary but I'd be happy with 1 overall jersey and 1 top 10 GC finish plus say 6-10 GT stages through the year (well I have got Cav). Any more and I'll be hanging out a car window like Marc Madiot

Rider goals - more to be added later after I've 'talked' to the riders. These are hopefully close to the actual rider goals.

Cav in yellow day one and green overall at the TdF.
Cancellara to lose weight and work on beating Gilbert rather than Martin
Voigt to get in every break and have fun
JTL for the Ardennes Classics and the Vuelta
Talansky Paris-Nice, Tour de Romandie, TdF top 10

Taking the individual goals first, how has it gone?
Cavfailed on specific targets. Due to circumstances, but how can I be disappointed? Kittel brought home the yellow, green and white jerseys on Stage 1, and bookended it on the Champs Elysee. As a DS, job done. As a British cycling fan, less ecstatic, but for the team, this actually is a success. On the positive side for Cav he's riding in the national champs Jersey, and has won the Green Jersey at the Giro, numerous stages, and I really can't complain, nor I suspect can he, though he probably will at some point.
Cancellarasuccess what a classics season. No Tour, but to be honest he's only ever been there for TT stages and as a super domestique for the Schlecks. He seems to have prospered away from the GT races and I'm looking forward to the World Champs where he'll be taking on the TT in the Swiss champs Jersey, again.
Voigtsuccess Never had a doubt. Most combative stage 20, multiple breakaways, lots of camera time. Job done
JTLfailed doesn't seem to have prospered with Sky, possibly as predicted. They seem to have decided he needs making into a standard Sky team domestique instead of taking advantage of his talent. So all in all a fail.
Talanskysuccess Paris Nice yep, Romandie not so hot, TdF 10th job done.

And for the others?

Appollonio disappointing– hoped he'd prosper post Sky, but he's had more DNFs than Andy. He seems to be having a bad year, and has not delivered as I'd hoped so far.
Riblon success – anonymous, silent, hardly raced before the Tour. Then came the Tour. Most combative rider, first French stage winner on the iconic Alpe d'Huez stage. Am I happy? Find me a car window to hang out of Smile
Marcel Kittel success – early on in the year I thought the team mechanic had fitted a compact chainset by mistake, but then the wins started to come. Not when I'd have liked, but the Tour has paid off for all, with even Cav praising Marcel's sprint.
Fuglsang success – I was wondering if his mouth had run away with him last year, but come the Tour, he's pulled off a top 10 in style. Riding a long break with Martin, and then never quite being strong enough in the mountains, but never failing either. A consistent ride with a fair result. We'll ignore his early form.
Iglinsky good - not as good in the Classics as hoped, but a couple of palmares this year, and some good domestique riding. Not set the world alight, but more than satisfactory.
Hushovd ok – has definitely lost the top end speed, and seems to be taking his time finding some form. Not the points earner I'd hoped for.
Schar good – seems to be taking his pointers from Hushovd. Fortunately at the Swiss champs, Hushovd wasn't there, so Schar was able to take the win. A disappointing TdF, but at least we saw the Jersey.
TJ success – he tried to get the team ticket from Cadel, and he seemed to be onto a good thing, till the Giro. During the Tour he seems to have started badly and improved with time. His ride on the Alpe d'Huez stage was fantastic, and only perhaps undone by his earlier mechanical on the stage. Having given up on GC, he's read the team mandate and ridden in an exemplary fashion.
Astarloza good – I wanted a road captain, and I'd say he's done that job.
Izagirre ok – strong early season, but seems to be out of form. Maybe we'll see him at the Vuelta
Pichon good – brought in as a domestique, but has won some minor races. Promising as a third sprinter maybe, but on the whole has done his job
Roux good – brought in for Tour breakaways, hasn't ridden the TdF, but has been active throughout the restof the year, riding breakaways and placing well in minor stage races.
Roy good – has done well in ITTs this year, riding well in the Tour. Been seen in the breakaways, and all in all what I wanted.
Cattaneo ok – a learning year. Nothing bad to say, and no surprises.
Dowsett success – unlike Appollonio has thrived away from Sky. I'm very pleased with his performances, and the ITT in the Giro was the icing on the cake.
Gutierrez poor – perhaps another rider for the Vuelta?
Schleck good – has had a tough time, but his riding in the Tour has shown signs of a return to riding well, if not brilliantly. Written off by many, he's looking more comfortable, and in another year I'd expect him to be back at the front.
Roche good – super domestique, but possibly not well used by Saxo.
Sorenson good – another super domestique, but has not shone this year.
Zandio good – Another domestique, doing the domestique job with no sparkle but lots of effort.
de Gendt good – has been criticised for his lack of GC success in the Tour, but he obviously read the team manifesto, and I'm more than happy.
Hoogerland success – goal has really been get fit, and get back. He's back and has been attacking on the Tour, riding breakaways in his Dutch national Jersey. Something Gesink, Mollema and Ten Dam for all their GC aspirations aren't wearing. I'm pleased.

And as a team it has Definitely gone to plan. We're into double figure GT stage wins, Cav brought back the Green Jersey from Italy, and Fabian has shone in the Classics. We've worn our jerseys with pride, we've got 5 National Jerseys in the team, we've ridden aggressively in breakaways and won combativity awards. We've exceeded expectations so far.
Are we going to win the WT or fantasy points battles? Nope. Did we expect to? Nope. Have we had a good run so far? H*ll yes!
Smile

posted by robdaykin [160 posts]
21st July 2013 - 23:04

like this
Like (4)

Clasica San Sebastian:

Andrew Talansky (GRM)
Jakob Fuglsang (AST)
Thomas De Gendt (VCD)
Anthony Roux (FDJ)
Jonathan Tiernan-Locke (SKY)
Gorka Izaguirre Insausti (EUS)
Mikel Astarloza (EUS)
Johnny Hoogerland (VCD)
Maxim Iglinsky

Tour of Poland
Riblon
Cancellara
Hushovd
Sorenson

posted by robdaykin [160 posts]
27th July 2013 - 9:16

like this
Like (8)