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by enrique   January 10, 2013  

Things you may want to ask for.

1. Can you add sortable columns to the 'Rankings' page so you can click on the Rider 'Value' column and have the list sorted by rider value instead of its current sort by points scored?

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posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
26th May 2014 - 21:38

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Big Grin I knew you'd like it...
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That would be the "Overall purist" league...

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posted by enrique [1684 posts]
26th May 2014 - 21:58

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Dave, as the game progresses, it might be fun to offer different budgets for different people. Say you're new and wanted to play the 'Beginner' level... You could join a league with a budget of 180 for the Grand Tours... Say you've been playing for a few years and want to play with a very restricted budget that allows you no more than 3 GC riders for a tour, you could play 'Advanced' with a budget of 150, or so... Maybe specific leagues could set up their own budget?... Big Grin Maybe the prizes for the 'Beginner' level should just be socks (!) Wink

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posted by enrique [1684 posts]
3rd June 2014 - 21:45

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enrique, it wont work mate, just look at how well some in their first season have done so far and how poorly others, like myself, who have been in a while are doing.

The game has enough variables in it without trying to create up more.

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posted by stumps [2698 posts]
3rd June 2014 - 23:01

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I have plans next season to have a forum's scorum's two tier league....possibly calling it pro tour and continental.....with promotion and relegation perhaps?

posted by ray silvester [1807 posts]
4th June 2014 - 12:16

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ray silvester wrote:
I have plans next season to have a forum's scorum's two tier league....possibly calling it pro tour and continental.....with promotion and relegation perhaps?

I like the idea but how will the pro tour teams be selected for next year ....ie players per league?

posted by chiv30 [857 posts]
4th June 2014 - 18:02

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chiv30 wrote:
ray silvester wrote:
I have plans next season to have a forum's scorum's two tier league....possibly calling it pro tour and continental.....with promotion and relegation perhaps?

I like the idea but how will the pro tour teams be selected for next year ....ie players per league?

Great idea, I'd say top 18 are in the pro tour (as per the real thing) although maybe throw out some wildcards for the GTs?

Then it could either be just the rest in the lower one or perhaps 30 in the pro-conti and the rest split geographically in UCI Asia/Europe/America leagues?

One thing I always wanted to try was a team of teams league, 9 players get together for a tour and their scores are used to work out how well their team did so for example the top scoring player would earn their team the stage win, the overall best player the GC etc etc BUT the big prize would be the team prize which would be calculated by taking the best three individual player scores per team per stage and combining them.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
5th June 2014 - 12:28

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ray silvester wrote:
I'll be surprised if Spilak isn't THE most popular rider.....
Dave, God knows I'm annoying, and I'm wasting my time, Big Grin but wouldn't it be nice to see that type of info on a page without having to go click on his profile after the stage? Couldn't we have a page like the riders page where you could list or check the most popular riders per stage? Something like this below?...

In the first example I show only the Top 9 riders for each stage are 'checked' so you could see the 9 most popular riders for each stage of the race... Big Grin

Big Grin Note the amazing color coding of each stage:

BLUE - Time Trials and Medium Mountain Stages
RED - High Mountains
GREEN - Sprint Stages

Thinking You could also change the checkmarks for numbers. No. 1 would be the most Popular rider for that stage, No. 2 the 2nd, etc... You can see that in the second example... Alternatively you could show % of teams that had that rider or number (!) of teams that slected that rider for that stage...

. Of course,making the columns sortable by stage would be supremely cool, too (!) Big Grin And having the most popular riders for the whole competition, well, I would die (!) if that ever happened... ('Do it Dave, do it'! Smile 'Just to get rid of enrique!') That (!) would take the cake! Yummy! Smile

.What do you think? Big Grin

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posted by enrique [1684 posts]
8th June 2014 - 7:55

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You know? Thinking I bet it would be pretty easy to add a column to the current (!) Dream Team pop-up that includes the % of teams that chose those riders in the just completed stage... Hmmm... Thinking or maybe add a column to the riders page (http://fantasy.road.cc/riders) that showed % of teams that selected the rider for the last completed stage Thinking And maybe add the current rider values to the values column that already exists? Big Grin

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posted by enrique [1684 posts]
14th June 2014 - 16:57

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Wouldn't it be cool to see a "Total Teams Entered' and a 'Teams Entered Today' Field for every competition?...

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posted by enrique [1684 posts]
22nd June 2014 - 12:17

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Dave, can we have an option next year of having our first page to come up in the game be the rider selection page of the current competition? Thinking I always go to the game first to make my transfers and after that I sometimes look at the standings... I have very feeble wrists and very little energy these days and all this clicking to get to the rider selection is very hard for me... It makes me tired... and then I make poor choices... And then I end up at the bottom of the Forum Scorum league... and then I get depressed... Smile

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posted by enrique [1684 posts]
6th July 2014 - 6:57

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Enrique......I could suggest some unusual wrist strengthening exercises(although some say it makes you go blind!!).

And a Forum's Scorum's stage win in this years Giro(stage 9) suggests less feebleness than you claim......although 8 points in the FSUCI rankings for joint 36th means you are in danger of slipping into the Pro-Conti division next season when we split into 2 divisions in Forum's Scorum's.

My game suggestion........get Ramunas and Luca in for stage 2 of the Tour T'Yorkshire!!

posted by ray silvester [1807 posts]
6th July 2014 - 8:10

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When was the last time Navardauskas scored anything. Oh...

posted by Joelsim [1139 posts]
6th July 2014 - 9:17

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Joelsim wrote:
When was the last time Navardauskas scored anything. Oh...

201pts in the rolling calender year,although i'm sure he was youth points eligible for about half of it)....not bad.....and he's a good shout for yellow on stage 2 today?

And there was me thinking it would be Viviani the difference eh Joel? Day Dreaming

Even if i did think it was Demare and not Ramunas at first.

posted by ray silvester [1807 posts]
6th July 2014 - 9:43

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ray silvester wrote:
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When was the last time Navardauskas scored anything. Oh...

201pts in the rolling calender year,although i'm sure he was youth points eligible for about half of it)....not bad.....and he's a good shout for yellow on stage 2 today?

And there was me thinking it would be Viviani the difference eh Joel? Day Dreaming

Even if i did think it was Demare and not Ramunas at first.


I must say, besides Viviani, the others were 3 very very nice picks, I was quite impressed when I read the H2H .. Tommy Slagter my outside tip today.
I hope you will continue to share thoughts with me Ray, much appreciated.

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posted by VVV73 [389 posts]
6th July 2014 - 11:05

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Bit late for the deadline although I've been touting him all weekend.....I like Paolini for today'stage 2 and my team's looking OK with the likes of Haussler,Sagan and Ramunas also in the mix

posted by ray silvester [1807 posts]
6th July 2014 - 12:38

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ray silvester wrote:
Bit late for the deadline although I've been touting him all weekend.....I like Paolini for today'stage 2 and my team's looking OK with the likes of Haussler,Sagan and Ramunas also in the mix

Tom Slagter? Ray.
I am a big fan of To0ms, he impressed the hell out of me, and every time he goes away , he comes back either faster(TDU,13') or tougher/stronger ( this year in Paris vasco, classics)

Yes I have Haussler in my teams too. I feel he has been quiet this year so far as IAM are targeting this race big time cause first year and want to consolidate a spot and Haussler has been primed to go bang. Look at the squad they bought , has to be their best if not.
I am very worried I forgot to bring Sagan in in standard. Tom Dumolin is my secret weapon in Purist too, I am hoping for something from him today too, Only went him and Sagan as sprinters there.

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posted by VVV73 [389 posts]
6th July 2014 - 12:45

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Chava for IAM has a stage win in him somewhere too but he may well save his best for the French crowds and is not as good a value as HH?

posted by ray silvester [1807 posts]
6th July 2014 - 12:50

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ray silvester wrote:
Chava for IAM has a stage win in him somewhere too but he may well save his best for the French crowds and is not as good a value as HH?
Yeah for sure, Chava is one of the toughest riders I ever seen, so many times I seen him go down think he is out of race, then next minute he is at front attacking , ripped jersey flapping in wind LOL absolutely love him.

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posted by VVV73 [389 posts]
6th July 2014 - 13:06

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Chava for IAM has a stage win in him somewhere too but he may well save his best for the French crowds and is not as good a value as HH?
Yeah for sure, Chava is one of the toughest riders I ever seen, so many times I seen him go down think he is out of race, then next minute he is at front attacking , ripped jersey flapping in wind LOL absolutely love him.

P.s. ALL the IAM squad are peaking so hard atm. after the Suisse, I really like Brandle and bit less Hollenstien for future.

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posted by VVV73 [389 posts]
6th July 2014 - 13:07

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enrique wrote:
Dave, can we have an option next year of having our first page to come up in the game be the rider selection page of the current competition?...
Dave, what I mean is this... Here I am... tired... dispirited... and I'm thinking about doing my transfers and then I realize I have to go sign in, land on the 'Home' page, to see my information for the whole year, which I'm not particularly interested in right now, then look up at the tabs to make sure I don't click on the women's comp, which will probably be there all season, then click on 'TDF'and then click again to 'Select Team', it's like a marathon... It takes almost as long to get to do my transfers as it does to read one of my posts! Smile Agh, I'm just a grumpy old man... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1684 posts]
7th July 2014 - 3:56

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enrique wrote:
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Dave, can we have an option next year of having our first page to come up in the game be the rider selection page of the current competition?...
Dave, what I mean is this... Here I am... tired... dispirited... and I'm thinking about doing my transfers and then I realize I have to go sign in, land on the 'Home' page, to see my information for the whole year, which I'm not particularly interested in right now, then look up at the tabs to make sure I don't click on the women's comp, which will probably be there all season, then click on 'TDF'and then click again to 'Select Team', it's like a marathon... It takes almost as long to get to do my transfers as it does to read one of my posts! Smile Agh, I'm just a grumpy old man... Thinking

so what you're saying is you have to click two buttons? the humanity.

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7311 posts]
7th July 2014 - 7:49

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Dave Atkinson wrote:
so what you're saying is you have to click two buttons? the humanity.
It's not just that, it's the rolling of the eyes, too... Could you get rid of the women's competition tabs for me?... That might make it less confusing... I'm very sensitive and so geared to the Tour de France that every time I click on the Women's World Cup, which happens every day practically, I puke, I just can't help it, I just can't control the mouse like I used to back in the day... Maybe I'm getting too old for this... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1684 posts]
7th July 2014 - 11:13

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I just thought of this while playing NBC's Fantasy Cycling Challenge... Thinking Could we have a sort for riders on the Team Selection page next year based on their total score for the running competition? At first I didn't like it, it's the default sort for riders in that game, but having riders sorted by their total score in the NBC game made me realize I was about to leave someone out that was scoring a boatload of points so far in the competition and suddenly I started liking it... Big Grin

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posted by enrique [1684 posts]
20th July 2014 - 15:25

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enrique wrote:
Dave, can we have an option next year of having our first page to come up in the game be the rider selection page of the current competition?...
Dave, I don't think we need a 'Home' tab, honestly, I don't think anybody ever really stops there except because it's where you land when you log in.... It's just a click-through page to get to the current competition in my opinion... Why don't you change the 'Home' page to a 'Badges' page and stick that in the background somewhere? I don't think badges are a talking point anymore, really, and, well, old people like me just want to go to the current competition to get our fix of our daily adrenaline rush... Thinking I hate to sound demeaning, but could you get rid of the 'Women's World Tour' Tabs, too? Not the races, just the tabs... In my rush to get to the TDF and the constant jiggling of tabs and the jiggling of the page layout due to the huge ads wreaking havoc on the page design I have to wait more than 1 second to click on the TDF tab, which is quite annoying in this day and age... In my haste I have been forced to go to the Women's World Tour on more than one occasion because of my haste in clicking... Thinking Something should be done about that... Waiting

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posted by enrique [1684 posts]
21st July 2014 - 19:05

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enrique wrote:
enrique wrote:
Dave, can we have an option next year of having our first page to come up in the game be the rider selection page of the current competition?...
Dave, I don't think we need a 'Home' tab, honestly, I don't think anybody ever really stops there except because it's where you land when you log in.... It's just a click-through page to get to the current competition in my opinion... Why don't you change the 'Home' page to a 'Badges' page and stick that in the background somewhere? I don't think badges are a talking point anymore, really, and, well, old people like me just want to go to the current competition to get our fix of our daily adrenaline rush... Thinking I hate to sound demeaning, but could you get rid of the 'Women's World Tour' Tabs, too? Not the races, just the tabs... In my rush to get to the TDF and the constant jiggling of tabs and the jiggling of the page layout due to the huge ads wreaking havoc on the page design I have to wait more than 1 second to click on the TDF tab, which is quite annoying in this day and age... In my haste I have been forced to go to the Women's World Tour on more than one occasion because of my haste in clicking... Thinking Something should be done about that... Waiting

I use the home tab to check my overall standing, and to switch those standings between my normal and purist teams. I find it useful anyway

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3861 posts]
21st July 2014 - 21:07

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
I use the home tab to check my overall standing, and to switch those standings between my normal and purist teams...
I guess I never check my overall standings, especially during a competition... I could probably do without seeing my overall standing for the whole time a race is going on... Well, Dave, maybe you could rename the 'Home' tab 'Overall Standings'... or maybe you could have a checkbox somewhere that - if selected - would take you staright to your rider selection page every time you log in. I guess I'm just lazy and don't want to click 1 time to get to the competition and then another to select the riders.... It's too many clicks and my fingers hurt... Thinking I guess I'm just annoyable.. and annoying... and unreasonable... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1684 posts]
21st July 2014 - 21:52

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chiv30 wrote:
ray silvester wrote:
I have plans next season to have a forum's scorum's two tier league....possibly calling it pro tour and continental.....with promotion and relegation perhaps?

I like the idea but how will the pro tour teams be selected for next year ....ie players per league?

It'll probably be Top thirty and all equal scorers in the Pro Tour level and everyone else in Pro Conti with 5 promoted and relegated each season?

posted by ray silvester [1807 posts]
23rd July 2014 - 7:26

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I have an issue with the algorithm for working out points for new riders, specifically those who have a few races under their belts.

Looking at Tour of Poland Formolo, Arredondo and Seb Henao are very expensive. Formolo has done 12 stages within the competition (9x Suisse, 3x Trentino) yet he is 17.9 cost on the back of one moderately successful event (and pulling out of Trentino). On a twelve month basis he has scored less than, Riblon, Siutsou, Jungels, Capecchi, Ion Izaguirre, Barguil etc. But costs more than them.

Arredondo has done two very good events but had a bad volta catalunya. Is he really worth so much more than Cataldo and D. Caruso in a race to be decided on the time trial?

Same earlier in the season, Simon Yates was prohibitive on the back of only doing tour of britain, but Adam was cheap. IIRC Hofland and Coquard cost silly amounts in their second competition in the game because their first was so good.

It would be good if these up and coming riders could have their scores smoothed until they get enough races under their belts to accurately gauge their cost. Is this achievable?

posted by Twybaydos [319 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 9:52

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... Formolo has done 12 stages... yet he is 17.9...
That's interesting... does that mean the algorithm just takes a look at points per type of stage but ignores number of days of racing in the last 12 months?... Thinking That could explain why they're more expensive I guess... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1684 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 12:20

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