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Is a sneak preview of the rider values for 2013......although Vicky P wrapped in a bow would be an adequate substitute  19

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Raleigh [1665 posts] 3 years ago
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I want Ed Clancy's thighs.

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 3 years ago
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Name a rider.......ONLY one

First person to name a rider gets an insight into Dave's complicated mind....  19

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Littlesox [78 posts] 3 years ago
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Don't get it, but how about Lizzie Armitstead ?

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Raleigh [1665 posts] 3 years ago
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If Lizzie Armitstead was on Fantasy Cycling...  24

How about...

Rigoberto Uran Uran?  39

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 3 years ago
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Here you go, I am not even going to attempt to explain it, because I have NO idea, But I this would be for him starting the Santos Tour Down Under

Rigoberto Uran

Stage type: FL

45.8 points from 20 stages contested, Average 2.3. Weighted score: 145.36

Stage type: MM

95.0 points from 17 stages contested, Average 5.6. Weighted score: 240.8

Stage type: HM

95.6 points from 5 stages contested, Average 19.1. Weighted score: 191

Stage type: SF

73.0 points from 13 stages contested, Average 5.6. Weighted score: 95.2

Stage type: IT

19.0 points from 5 stages contested, Average 3.8. Weighted score: 0

Stage type: TT

8.0 points from 2 stages contested, Average 4.0. Weighted score: 0.0

Rider total score: 25.9

Rider type: KM

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enrique [2255 posts] 3 years ago
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Ok, go crazy here Gkam, Mark Cavendish and Peter Sagan... can you do it?

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dave atkinson [6145 posts] 3 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

Here you go, I am not even going to attempt to explain it, because I have NO idea, But I this would be for him starting the Santos Tour Down Under

Rigoberto Uran

Stage type: FL

45.8 points from 20 stages contested, Average 2.3. Weighted score: 145.36

Stage type: MM

95.0 points from 17 stages contested, Average 5.6. Weighted score: 240.8

Stage type: HM

95.6 points from 5 stages contested, Average 19.1. Weighted score: 191

Stage type: SF

73.0 points from 13 stages contested, Average 5.6. Weighted score: 95.2

Stage type: IT

19.0 points from 5 stages contested, Average 3.8. Weighted score: 0

Stage type: TT

8.0 points from 2 stages contested, Average 4.0. Weighted score: 0.0

Rider total score: 25.9

Rider type: KM

that's not his value though, just to confuse things a little more.

sagan is a top-of-the-pile 40 for the TDU. Cav is 33.4. at the moment. things may change.

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dave atkinson [6145 posts] 3 years ago
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(uran's value is 23.8)

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Raleigh [1665 posts] 3 years ago
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Uran is good value this year then.

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dave atkinson [6145 posts] 3 years ago
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you should see how much andy schleck is going for  4

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 3 years ago
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I didn't think that would be the final value, but I thought I'd give them an insight, confusing as it may be.

Just finishing off all the new riders and hoping the team finalize their full rosters soon  4

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 3 years ago
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Merry Christmas Road.cc  4
How about Eddie bos?

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Bobbys boys [76 posts] 3 years ago
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Ballan will be cheap!!

Get well soon Alessandro  1

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Raleigh [1665 posts] 3 years ago
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So its based on potential results... Kind of

Interesting.

Hopefully there will still be some cheapo Domestiques.

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 3 years ago
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I'm not going into any more value's  19

You'll just have to wait and see  4 4 4

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dave atkinson [6145 posts] 3 years ago
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Raleigh wrote:

So its based on potential results... Kind of

not really. it's based on a year of past form, weighted to the types of stages in the race. so if it was all high mountains, cav's value would be much lower.

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Raleigh [1665 posts] 3 years ago
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Ooohhhh.

Has anyone had a look at the ProFSL thing?

Because that IS flipping complicash!

I have absolutely NO idea what's going on.

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enrique [2255 posts] 3 years ago
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enrique wrote:

Dave, what are your thoughts on transfers and the penalty fees?...

Anything on this?  1

Dave Atkinson wrote:

... here's how it'll basically work:
1) there's a maximum rider value of 40 and a minimum rider value of 3...

Is the minimum rider value 3.0?

Can't wait! Thanks!  1

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dave atkinson [6145 posts] 3 years ago
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all will be revealed soon. and yes, 3.0 is the min.

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enrique [2255 posts] 3 years ago
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Dave Atkinson wrote:

... all will be revealed soon...

When? I'm checking every day!  1

Dave Atkinson wrote:

... 3.0 is the min...

We'll need lower than 3.0, Dave, c'mon! 2.5 is a really cool number.. How about at least one rider per race at 2.5, or 2.3, or 2.7, just a wee bit below 3.0? I guarantee I'll use them!  1 I'll need it to stack up my team with the higher valued riders! Please? I was one of the ones that loved the 2.3 riders, like Stijn Neirynck, the 2.4 riders, the 2.5 ones, like Steve Chainel and Mikel Astarloza and the 2.7 riders, like Stijn Vandenbergh... One per race? Please?  1

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Johnbosley [28 posts] 3 years ago
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Right, New Fantasy Year, what are we waiting for?

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dave atkinson [6145 posts] 3 years ago
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Johnbosley wrote:

Right, New Fantasy Year, what are we waiting for?

we're waiting for monday 7 jan which is the date we're planning to launch the 2013 season, all going well...

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James Warrener [1080 posts] 3 years ago
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Johnbosley [28 posts] 3 years ago
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Excellent, thanks.

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enrique [2255 posts] 3 years ago
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Hmmm... That's strange... The Fantasy Cycling Automatic Roster Changes Thread says it was updated 1 hour 22 min ago by roadcc_admin but I don't see any additions to any race... Hmmm... Were there any changes made?... Are the changes displayed latest first?...

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TERatcliffe26 [4465 posts] 3 years ago
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enrique wrote:

Hmmm... That's strange... The Fantasy Cycling Automatic Roster Changes Thread says it was updated 1 hour 22 min ago by roadcc_admin but I don't see any additions to any race... Hmmm... Were there any changes made?... Are the changes displayed latest first?...

Did you go to the second page of the thread?

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enrique [2255 posts] 3 years ago
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The game is looking quite nice! It looks great, really! I love it...

I really (!) like this:

Dave Atkinson wrote:

Premium players can roll over an unlimited number of transfers, and their transfers don't expire.

But, man, I'm broke! Would you change that so standard folks can have unlimited rollovers too? Or at least have a rollover of four days, please? Otherwise I feel like the Premium players will have a pretty significant advantage! Please?  1

By the way, I miss something from last year's Pick A Team page. Rider values would be grayed out if their value was above the amount left on your budget. You could avoid going over budget because anyone above what was left on your budget was not available to be selected. Can that be done this year, too? I'm really excited to be back at this! Thanks!  1

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nickobec [246 posts] 3 years ago
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Dave Atkinson wrote:

Premium players can roll over an unlimited number of transfers, and their transfers don't expire.

The way I 1st read that, if I sign up as a premium player, don't use any transfers and bank them all up to the Giro. I would have 100+ transfers banked for the Giro and to try and win the big prize.

Then I thought about it, and the unlimited transfers between races and realised that maybe it was only banking transfers in each race that are unlimited.

So which one is it Dave?

option 1 makes some big changes to game play and fairness IMHO.

option 2 gives an big advantage to premium players if they plan well.

enrique wrote:

Otherwise I feel like the Premium players will have a pretty significant advantage!

Agree

Actually unsure as to sign up as premium or take the challenge and play as free to beat the premium players with a handicap.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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nickobec wrote:
Dave Atkinson wrote:

Premium players can roll over an unlimited number of transfers, and their transfers don't expire.

The way I 1st read that, if I sign up as a premium player, don't use any transfers and bank them all up to the Giro. I would have 100+ transfers banked for the Giro and to try and win the big prize.

Then I thought about it, and the unlimited transfers between races and realised that maybe it was only banking transfers in each race that are unlimited.

So which one is it Dave?

option 1 makes some big changes to game play and fairness IMHO.

option 2 gives an big advantage to premium players if they plan well.

enrique wrote:

Otherwise I feel like the Premium players will have a pretty significant advantage!

Agree

Actually unsure as to sign up as premium or take the challenge and play as free to beat the premium players with a handicap.

I believe the way the game is set up each race is a separate competition so transfers wouldn't carry over between the likes of the Giro and Tour. What would actually happen would be that if you kept the same team from stage 1 to stage 5 you'd have accumulated 8 transfers rather than the previous cap of 4.

Not that it makes much difference to how the game plays (except removing some planning from it regarding when to start changing from sprinters to climbers etc). You still need to make the right choices for stage 1 and if you get it wrong you may be at an even greater disadvantage than you were last year because those getting their picks right can save their transfers and have 8 or so for when we get a change from flat to TT or flat to mountains whereas if you get it wrong you're making changes every day just to catch up.

I think that's how it works but I'm sure Dave will correct me if I'm wrong.

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dave atkinson [6145 posts] 3 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

I believe the way the game is set up each race is a separate competition so transfers wouldn't carry over between the likes of the Giro and Tour. What would actually happen would be that if you kept the same team from stage 1 to stage 5 you'd have accumulated 8 transfers rather than the previous cap of 4.

yeah, the transfers are confined to a competition, they don't carry over to the next one

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