Is it illegal? x2

by Raleigh   December 23, 2012  

To ride 2 abreast?

Because I'm pretty sure its not.

Been getting a LOT of stick for this from Suffolk drivers this week, and we only do it when there's a white line in the middle of the road?

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Note the ironic use of the final question mark.

Sir Velo

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posted by Raleigh [1733 posts]
23rd December 2012 - 12:45

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Not illegal - Highway code says this:
66

You should

-keep both hands on the handlebars except when signalling or changing gear
-keep both feet on the pedals
-never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends
-not ride close behind another vehicle
-not carry anything which will affect your balance or may get tangled up with your wheels or chain
-be considerate of other road users, particularly blind and partially sighted pedestrians. Let them know you are there when necessary, for example, by ringing your bell if you have one. It is recommended that a bell be fitted.

.....aspiring to mediocrity Big Grin

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posted by Mr_eL_Bee [68 posts]
23rd December 2012 - 13:09

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posted by Velo_Alex [66 posts]
23rd December 2012 - 13:11

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Cool. Thanks guys

Sir Velo

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posted by Raleigh [1733 posts]
23rd December 2012 - 15:06

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Am I right in thinking that you are allowed to ride in the middle of the lane if you feel like it? Sometimes it's definitely safer to in London.

posted by londonplayer [671 posts]
23rd December 2012 - 15:59

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londonplayer wrote:
Am I right in thinking that you are allowed to ride in the middle of the lane if you feel like it? Sometimes it's definitely safer to in London.

You can cycle whever you want as long as its in the right lane. A little courtesy is all that is required Big Grin

There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.

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posted by stumps [2847 posts]
23rd December 2012 - 16:14

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Short answer is that Suffolk drivers need educating.

Riding 2 abreast annoys some drivers because they feel you shouldn't be "in their way". Fact is you're a road user just as they are but of course an obstacle 2 cyclists are much more difficult for idiots to push past into oncoming traffic.

There's no need to be inconsiderate but your safety ranks way above some impatient jerk's need to join the queue up the road 5 or 10 seconds earlier. In a group 2 abreast creates a shorter bunch of riders than single file so actually makes overtaking easier, but trying to make some pig-headed drivers understand this is impossible so I suggest you don't bother trying.

@londonplayer, yes Primary position AKA 'taking the lane' is a key element of defensive riding, particlarly in urban traffic. It was outlined long ago in John Franklin's book Cyclecraft. Bikeradar has an article on road positioning and other training orgs will have similarly helpful advice online.

Using it takes a bit of nerve but it prevents you being cut up e.g. on the approach to pinch points like refuges, pedestrian crossings, mini RABs and so on. And never ride in the gutter, you're giving everyone behind you the impression that you are scared and are giving them just enough to squeeze past. I generally ride in the left hand car tyre tracks - you are much less likely to encounter stones, glass and other detritus as well as avoiding drains. You are also more visible to those waiting at side roads.

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posted by Simon E [2059 posts]
23rd December 2012 - 16:28

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Yep, I tend to only move over when a car is overtaking, the left hand tyre track is often smoother, like Simon E says.

V. annoying when someone wants to overtake just to beat you to a junction, then you pull up about 3 seconds after.

At Wits End

Sir Velo

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posted by Raleigh [1733 posts]
23rd December 2012 - 16:55

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Usually when I cycle with friends we ride two abreast but then if someone can't get past we just go into one line but far enough apart to annoy them Wink

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posted by Municipal Waste [199 posts]
23rd December 2012 - 19:36

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Mr_eL_Bee wrote:
Not illegal - Highway code says this:
66
-never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends

Remember The Highway Code is advisory (but ignore it at your peril) I am pretty sure the law is that you 'should not' (not 'must not') ride more than two abreast. Otherwise road racing is illegal? Will look it up when I get home...

posted by SideBurn [873 posts]
23rd December 2012 - 21:04

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Interestingly enough the British Horse Society recommend that riders ride two abreast so that drivers do not attempt to overtake them when the road is too narrow.

Not much fun when you get behind a pair of four legged shit monsters on a country lane on your bike though.

Velotastic !

Too many hills, but too little time.

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posted by badback [277 posts]
24th December 2012 - 14:16

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