Carbon bike hunting, any ideas?

by Dutchie   November 25, 2012  

Been reading road.cc articles for a few years now, but never looked at the forum before. So hi Blushing

Anyway, i'm on the hunt in the winter sales for a carbon bike, on a budget of a thousand pounds. I had my heart set on either a Cube Agree 105 or a Focus Cayo 3.0. But neither of them seems to come down in price yet, while i see other nice bikes appearing and getting sold out. Anyone got an idea why these two bikes are not getting reduced (yet)? Or what else to get in my budget? Few limitations: i'm a Shimano man so no Campa or SRAM, and good as they may be i'll pass on Boardmans.

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Just keep an eye on wiggle/merlin etc.
The Sensa bikes on merlin look good value.

Seems that people are putting prices up/down like the stock market to clear certain models.
I got a felt F5 back in October under £1K (45% off) from wiggle, price has crept up to £1300(20% off) now.

Close to Christmas doesn't seem the best time of year to buy.

posted by MrBLH [31 posts]
27th November 2012 - 9:52

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Second hand second hand second hand second hand

Have a look in february ish, when people are beginning to get their new summer bikes ready and will be selling off last year's model.

I bought a Dura Ace planet-X for under 900 quid last year. This year, whilst looking for a winter bike, I bought a Trek 5200 OCLV carbon Ultegra bike for 500 quid.

posted by bashthebox [638 posts]
27th November 2012 - 11:05

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Dutchie wrote:
Breaking the budget by 30% and over 50% respectively, you guys must be civil servants? Smile

PMSL - the private sector Project Manager's dream Smile

posted by Steven_L [48 posts]
27th November 2012 - 12:47

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I saw a promo at VeloUK for Dolan Mythos with Campag Veloce for £750. While not as big a bargain, the Shimano & SRAM versions start at about £900:

http://www.dolan-bikes.com/road-bikes/Carbon/Shimano%20Op/Mythos%20Rd
http://www.dolan-bikes.com/road-bikes/Carbon/Sram%20Op/Mythos%20Road%20Bike

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posted by Simon E [1941 posts]
27th November 2012 - 14:52

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Many people slag them off but i know a few people who ride Ribble bikes and they love them. Carbon Frame for well under a grand.

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posted by stumps [2698 posts]
27th November 2012 - 21:45

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Thanks for the input guys. The Cube seems indeed sold out by now, never been on sale. Some interesting alternatives mentioned there! But hanging on till after christmas might also be a good idea.

I have a few bargain second hand bikes in my shed, but this time i do want new. As for Ribble: one of my mates has a carbon Ribble and he is happy with it. But my winter bike came from Ribble and i had a few issues with them over that... i will never buy so much as a inner tube from them again.

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posted by Dutchie [52 posts]
27th November 2012 - 22:58

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stumps wrote:
Many people slag them off but i know a few people who ride Ribble bikes and they love them. Carbon Frame for well under a grand.

Same on the Planet X front, I know a few people who ride them and love them! Again prices can fluctuate so best to keep checking in the new year...

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posted by Ben Burns [61 posts]
28th November 2012 - 9:59

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Have you thought about a chinease carbon bike perhaps ? you could easily build one up for the 1K mark, and then have it built exactly as you want ?

posted by gazer117 [25 posts]
28th November 2012 - 10:47

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Good suggestion. I've just got hold of a FM066 from Hongfu, £450 for the frame, fork, headset seatpost, stem and handlebars, and based on the 50miles I've done so far it's fantastic. Very stiff and responsive and surprisingly smooth over the bumps. 1070g frame weight for the 60cm full T1000 carbon frame. You could easily build that up with Shimano 105 and have enough left over for a pair of fulcrum 5s. You might even be able to stretch to a set of carbon clinchers from china too.

posted by benezeir [53 posts]
28th November 2012 - 11:11

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I'm hoping to buy a Canyon in the near future. Just trying to work out whether to buy their standard carbon frame or throw the extra money at their Super Bike frame. Apparently the weight difference is tiny - even for weight weenies.

posted by londonplayer [671 posts]
28th November 2012 - 17:51

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Hi Dutchie,

Maybe you could try to go to Cadence Performance for FREE advice and even ride with them.

Cadence Cycling Performance Centre - South London's best cycling community

0208 676 8825
www.cadenceperformance.com
@cadenceperform

posted by bicicleta [8 posts]
28th November 2012 - 18:09

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bicicleta wrote:
Hi Dutchie,

Maybe you could try to go to Cadence Performance for FREE advice and even ride with them.

Cadence Cycling Performance Centre - South London's best cycling community

0208 676 8825
www.cadenceperformance.com
@cadenceperform

Just watched your you tube vid. Looks really interesting. Any plans for opening more centres? I can see one going down well in Surrey, etc.

posted by Super Domestique [1598 posts]
28th November 2012 - 18:48

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Ben Burns wrote:
stumps wrote:
Many people slag them off but i know a few people who ride Ribble bikes and they love them. Carbon Frame for well under a grand.

Same on the Planet X front, I know a few people who ride them and love them! Again prices can fluctuate so best to keep checking in the new year...

My bro has a Planet X frame and forks, built the rest up himself. Very light, impressed.

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posted by stumps [2698 posts]
28th November 2012 - 18:51

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Oh and just so I keep on topic, for the OP I have a mate with a Cayo 105 and he loves it. Keep hunting for what you really want IMHO. You'll end up regretting it otherwise. Trust me, I have been there in the past.

posted by Super Domestique [1598 posts]
28th November 2012 - 18:51

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Dutchie wrote:
The Cube seems indeed sold out by now, never been on sale.

It's maybe stating the obvious, but retailers will only sell things at a reduced price that they can't sell at full price. Why would they do otherwise?

So if you want something very popular, don't be surprised if it's not heavily discounted.

posted by Chuck [364 posts]
28th November 2012 - 19:29

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There's always the brilliant canyon bikes Thinking

slightly more aerodynamic than a brick

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posted by HarveyMorcombe [48 posts]
2nd December 2012 - 16:44

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You might try the used market, ebay ect.. There are many guys that try out the sport and decide it is not for them and they sell their stuff super cheap. Also ebay has more and more new bikes at good prices. Or try Pedal Force, some good deals there.

Bryin

posted by Bryin [16 posts]
2nd December 2012 - 17:16

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I'd keep an eye out for a Giant TCR Composite (Hopefully they'll get down to your budget). Although 'composite' is Giant's entry level carbon grade it is a fantastic frame, far better than some other brands higher spec offerings.

If you can look past carbon and are willing to venture down the aluminium route it's so hard to fault Canondales's Cad10 - amazing bike and if there are any left can be had for about a grand!!

posted by Adam Buckland_ASD [27 posts]
13th December 2012 - 21:29

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+1 for the Dolan Mythos

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posted by Timbo13 [272 posts]
14th December 2012 - 9:53

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I've just bought a Planet X SL Pro with flatbars to use as commuter/winter bike; really light, comfortable and quick. The drop bar versions are £999. You can't wrong as far as I'm concerned.

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14th December 2012 - 14:42

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worth checking the ridley outlet shop online,its updated all the time,you can often pick up some great bargains.

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posted by robcrow [44 posts]
15th December 2012 - 14:12

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CRC have an Ultegra beone ex demo for £1049 if you fit a 56. I've got the same frame and its very nice.

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posted by TheHatter [810 posts]
17th December 2012 - 10:33

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Sorry guys, not been online much lately. More good ideas there but: the Giant TCR Composite 2. This is the bike i rode in summer and the bike that won the argument for getting a carbon bike for me. It fitted me like a glove and with prices dropping to 1099 it became my preferred option. But stocks seem to be going fast, so i ordered one before Crimbo to not miss out. Now just to wait for spring to ride it Crying

If you're bargain hunting and are after something specific: a lot of bikes seem to be selling fast. Maybe it's the great uptake in cycling over the past few years? Good luck with the hunt!

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posted by Dutchie [52 posts]
27th December 2012 - 16:44

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Frankly for £1000 I wouldn't be looking at a carbon fibre bike, it simply isn't enough money to get a decent bike, especially if you're after a 105 groupset as well.

Cannondale CAAD8 would be where my money went and it WILL be a better bike to ride than anything you can get in 'carbon' at this price in terms of comfort and performance.

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posted by Municipal Waste [190 posts]
27th December 2012 - 21:46

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Municipal Waste wrote:
Frankly for £1000 I wouldn't be looking at a carbon fibre bike, it simply isn't enough money to get a decent bike, especially if you're after a 105 groupset as well.

Wiggle have got Ridley Orion 1105B in Small and Medium for £999

Seems to fit the bill.

posted by Littlesox [89 posts]
28th December 2012 - 8:23

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Thinking Interesting... A carbon fibre road bike with full 105 that's on sale for 45% off when nearly every major bike manufacturer has sold out of their stock months ago, must be a cracker Tongue

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posted by Municipal Waste [190 posts]
28th December 2012 - 21:17

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posted by bikeleasingcompany [33 posts]
28th December 2012 - 21:23

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I work in the trade and here's my 2 cents.

The wiggins effect means road bikes should so well over summer there was no need the discount them heavily cause there were not many left.

Secondly, 2013 bikes are getting de-specc'ed for a slight or no price decrease so 2012 bikes offer better value money, if you can find one.

Thirdly cube agrees sold very well and we had none left before the end of the summer, BUT the internal routing has the potential to upset the rear gear changes so this years cabling in external again.

Cheers

posted by Nzlucas [89 posts]
28th December 2012 - 23:20

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Municipal Waste wrote:
Thinking Interesting... A carbon fibre road bike with full 105 that's on sale for 45% off when nearly every major bike manufacturer has sold out of their stock months ago, must be a cracker Tongue

Don't know - they seem to be OK. Guy I know has a Ridley Noah for TT, and it's a decent bike.

Wiggle are also offering a Felt F5 for 1100 and a Raleigh SP Comp for 1000.

Both are carbon and with 105

posted by Littlesox [89 posts]
29th December 2012 - 7:33

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Some interesting insights there Nzlucas

Municipal Waste wrote:
Thinking Interesting... A carbon fibre road bike with full 105 that's on sale for 45% off when nearly every major bike manufacturer has sold out of their stock months ago, must be a cracker Tongue

I think there are more factors in bike sales than the quality of the bike that determine whether there are stocks going away at discounted prices at the end of the season. Trade is not as straight forward as that.

Also love how several people have stated i'm wrong in looking for a carbon bike and coming up with aluminium bikes without knowing anything about me, the type of rider i am and my demands from a bike Wink

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posted by Dutchie [52 posts]
30th December 2012 - 0:50

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