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Paul Kimmage Defense Fund

I see a fund has opened to help Kimmage defend himself against the UCI:

http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2012/paul-kimmage-defense-fund

He's also started tweeting as @PaulKimmage

I think this may now go somewhere the UCI had no intention of it going. Let's hope so!

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_SiD_ | 10 years ago
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Dave,

as far as I can gather the original account was closed and all the details with it.
So it might explain the need for the Paypal ID and the email.
I assume he intends working off a spreadsheet downloaded before the account was deleted.
What do I know?

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_SiD_ | 10 years ago
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Cookson drops legal action against Kimmage.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15607/Kimmage-confirms-Cookson-is-endi...

And with that I think I can say case and the thread are now closed.

Thank you and good night.

S

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James Warrener | 10 years ago
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After the Lance film we now have enough material for another cycling thriller.

Very odd.

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_SiD_ | 7 years ago
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4 years after the initial case against Kimmage started he was found liable for 12,000 Swiss francs (€10,900) to the UCI, Verbruggen and McQuaid + costs. 

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/paul-kimmage-loses-libel-ca...

That seems to be that. Not sure who's forking out but since the fund is still missing it looks like Kimmage himself will pick up the tab. The book he could spin out of the whole affair would probably cover it… and then some.

Does anyone really care anymore? Probably not, I know I certainly dont. Has it changed anything in pro cycling?  Obviously not.

McQuaid is gone and Kimmage is back in gainful employment. My guess is that would be a result for the majority of the 1000s who 'invested' money in the fund. I got good value from my token donation, no complaints.

S

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Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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Its not there, I can see what he's doing.

He's hoping that only a percentage will trust him with their details again. Say 25% of donors request a refund. He'll have to cover $16k.....He might have that left.

He's saying its been checked over by accountants and lawyers, well I think those details need to be given to everyone. Scanned documents or some sort of release from those who have checked it over.

Its VERY dodgy and even Kimmage is suggesting NOT to get involved with this until the money is in trust somewhere that is neutral and away from Brown

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_SiD_ | 10 years ago
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And on it goes.
The saga started by ex-UCI President, Pat mcQuaid, rumbles on.
Aaron Brown, who has been accused of absconding with the initial fund and was reported to be seen by McQuaid 'side' at the recent election, has set up a 'refund fund' in an attempt to return the money to the initial donors and restore his reputation.

Kimmage has welcomed 'any attempt' to repay the donors.
Lots seem skeptical and rather reluctant to submit rather personal details to Brown.

http://kimmagefundrefund.wordpress.com/

Money is to be returned at the start of 2014.

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dave atkinson replied to _SiD_ | 10 years ago
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_SiD_ wrote:

And on it goes.
The saga started by ex-UCI President, Pat mcQuaid, rumbles on.
Aaron Brown, who has been accused of absconding with the initial fund and was reported to be seen by McQuaid 'side' at the recent election, has set up a 'refund fund' in an attempt to return the money to the initial donors and restore his reputation.

Kimmage has welcomed 'any attempt' to repay the donors.
Lots seem skeptical and rather reluctant to submit rather personal details to Brown.

http://kimmagefundrefund.wordpress.com/

Money is to be returned at the start of 2014.

he's in charge of the paypal account and therefore has the transaction details already.

so if he wants to refund the money, what's stopping him?

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_SiD_ | 10 years ago
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And finally, almost a year to the day this topic began, Pat McQuaid has lost the election to become UCI president for the 3rd time, beaten 24-18 by Brian Cookson.

I'd argue that if he hadn't sued Kimmage things would not have come to this.

The decision by Cycling Ireland not to nominate McQuaid was directly influenced by McQuaid's legal action against Kimmage. Cycling Ireland's decision not to nominate McQuaid, albeit after an EGM, severely discredited McQuaid on the international stage and led him to seek nomination from other countries (Swizerland, Morroco etc), further dragging the whole election and more importantly McQuaid himself into a rather unedifying situation.
Cookson's canditure looked polished and more importantly lawful in comparison.

No doubt McQuaid will be thrown some bone to keep him quiet - Kimmage on the other had has already started to rile against Cookson accusing him of having the 'backbone of a jellyfish'.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

And in a final, comical twist - Aaron Brown (@UCI_overlord) one of the instigators of the Kimmage fund (before he scarpered with it) was seen at the UCI congress today seemingly as an advisor to Pat McQuaid.

I await the documentary - if there is one it'll be fascinating.

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bashthebox | 10 years ago
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That McQuaid can even be allowed to stand for election after presiding over the most sordid episode in cycling's history just boggles the mind. The man has no shame; but then that's hardly a surprise. You don't get to the top of a fetid shitheap without becoming utterly dirty.

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_SiD_ | 10 years ago
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The Cycling Ireland EGM voted 91 - 74 against nominating Pat McQuaid for a 3rd term as president of the UCI.

McQuaid can still seek nomination via the Swiss federation and is expected now to do so.
Brian Cookson has also mounted a counter campaign to McQuaids for president if the UCI.
McQuaid is far from done - a very savvy operator, well connected he has already fired a shot across Cookson's bow accusing him of being 'a pawn in a larger game'.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-fires-a-warning-shot-at-uci-pres...

At present, even after the rejection by his national federation, McQuaid is still odds on to win a 3rd term.

However, David Walsh revealed today via twitter that:
"Plant is US delegate, VP of Atlanta Braves, also on UCI's MC. He hired investigators, brought his report to meeting, dropped it like a bomb."
In relation to Mike Plant (UCI management committee member) presenting a 'document' in a UCI meeting in Norway over the weekend revealing sensitive information re: Pat McQuaid relationship in the Armstrong affair. He suggests the document might be leaked to force McQuaid to stand down.

More on today's EGM.
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/14776/McQuaid-defeated-in-Cycling-Irel...

More will undoubtedly follow.

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Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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That's true and I'm sure he would. But hopefully the fund's case can be at least part sorted out soon

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dave atkinson | 10 years ago
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won't be free if he actually has to cough up for legal bills. which given past form he'd be perfectly happy to do

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Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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Talk about free publicity, Why didn't I think of that....  19

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_SiD_ | 10 years ago
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SKINS chairman, responsible for the Change Cycling Now conference in 2012 has agreed to underwrite any legal costs Kimmage might incur while the "Defense Fund" is in limbo.

http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2013/skins-underwrite-kimmage-leg...

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Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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I listened to them this morning, can we even be sure its him?

It sounds dodgy, but its heavily edited and there is no context, just brief statements....So I wouldn't jump on that like every "legal know it all" person on twitter  19

I think some of it has been accounted for, but is in the hands of courts and solicitors at the moment  3

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_SiD_ | 10 years ago
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Interview 'clips' with Aaron Brown released on line.
No sure of the context here or what the source is, could be edited out of context.
The fund is still missing/unaccounted for.

https://soundcloud.com/uci_overdrawn

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Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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I beat _SiD_ to it.....  26

Lesli has released her court papers http://www.scribd.com/doc/139460677/Complaint-Cohen-v-Aaron-Brown-and-Si...

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_SiD_ | 10 years ago
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UPDATE

And the thread comes full circle.
The Paul Kimmage Defense Fund has gone missing.
The people responsible for setting up the fund have fallen out - Aaron Brown aka UCI Overlord, who's bank account the money was 'resting' in, has failed to give a reasonable explanation to Lesli Cohen (Brown's business partner at Cyclismas) as to the whereabouts of the fund.

Brown says all will be revealed.
A very ignoble conclusion to a very noble cause? We'll see. I guess it's not over by a long shot.
Will McQuaid spot another weakness and move in on Kimmage again?
Will another fund be set up?
Does anyone care anymore?
Tune in for the next instalment of THE PAUL KIMMAGE DEFENSE FUND!!!!!

http://m.cyclingnews.com/news/has-the-paul-kimmage-defense-fund-disappeared

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/05/news/questions-over-funds-dog-twi...

http://road.cc/content/news/82358-mystery-over-whereabouts-paul-kimmage-...

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_SiD_ | 10 years ago
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It's the story that keeps writing itself.

UPDATE: Enough clubs have voted in the small time frame to force an Cycling Ireland EGM.

Statement: "Cycling Ireland at a meeting of its Board on April 26th decided to convene an EGM to consider matters which have arisen following the decision taken at its Board meeting on April 12th, to nominate Mr Pat McQuaid to stand for the position of UCI President.
Details of the EGM will be circulated to all clubs early next week.
For and on behalf of the Board of Cycling Ireland,
Geoff Liffey,
Company Secretary.
26th of April 2013

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_SiD_ | 10 years ago
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Update: Cycling Ireland recently endorsed Pat McQuaid as candidate for UCI president.
One board member, Anto Moran resigned on protest.
It now transpires that protocol may not have been followed. The notion to call an EGM allowing all members a vote, may not have been given proper consideration. In a rush all secretaries of CI. Clubs are being contacted and urged to call for an EGM before 5pm tomorrow when the board reconvene to discuss the matter. If found to be in breach of protocol then McQuaid's endorsement won't stand and it may go to members vote.

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_SiD_ | 10 years ago
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Update: Kimmage reckons Change Cycling Now has been a "load of hot air" as Pat McQuaid has been once again nominated by Cycling Ireland as UCI president. 1 board member Anto Moran, VP, resigns post in protest.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kimmage-angered-by-cycling-irelands-supp...

New documentary about Kimmage due for release in late 2013 early 2014. Trailer here:
http://vimeo.com/58740295

I feel wedded to this thread now. Sickness and health. Richer or poorer.

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_SiD_ | 11 years ago
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Just updating this for any future reference.

Via Twitter and with the financial aid of Jamie Fuller, owner of SKINS compression wear, a group of 'interested parties' now known as Change Cycling Now - http://www.changecyclingnow.org/ held a conference in London in December. In attendance we Kimmage, colleague David Walsh, Greg LeMond, Michael Ashdenden and others: http://www.changecyclingnow.org/attendees

The two day conference resulted in a "Charter of the Willing" - http://www.changecyclingnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Charter-of-th... and Greg LeMond offering to stand as "Interim President" of the UCI if Pat McQuaid stepped down, more symbolic gesture than a serious strategic move against McQuaid.

McQuaid dismissed the groups and it's findings: http://road.cc/content/news/72115-mcquaid-judge-cycling-london-2012-not-...

Whether or not Change Cycling Now can sustain momentum and build on their first conference is very much in question with only 4820 having signed their petition as I type.

Whether Kimmage has a valid case against the UCI should be decided by the end of 2012.

S

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_SiD_ | 11 years ago
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Some clarification.

The Kimmage fund was set up as a ”defence fund".
The nature of the case has changed with Kimmage now going on the "offense"

He has just clarified that none of the donations so far have been used.
All donators will be contacted - if they are not happy with the way the fund may now be used, then they will receive a full refund.

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Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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Thanks for the update, I hope he holds onto the fund until he's clear of any prosecutions and then puts the money into some development for youth cycling or an anti drugs campain

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_SiD_ | 11 years ago
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Just updating this thread for the record.

The UCI in a recent management meeting decided to suspend this lawsuit.
Rather than the UCI seeing them selves as heavy handed and a bit over the top, other factors were at play.

The open letter to Pat McQuaid (UCI chief) by Greg LeMond a few days previously, where LeMond asked everyone to join him in 'telling Pat McQuaid to fuck off' and subsequently urged everyone to support Kimmage's defense fund more than likely had some bearing.

The fund going from $36,000 at the end of September to just shy of $90,000 presently has also had some bearing.

McQuaid and Kimmage are ex cyclists (Kimmage going on to professional). Both from the same town. When this started McQuaid looked over his shoulder and saw his arch critic, Kimmage in trouble. He'd lost his job at the Sunday Times and therefore his platform. lost his income and therefore would have no means to fight a court case. Like all good racers do, he attacked. It was his best opportunity in 20 years to put Kimmage's back in his box.

Kimmage's was lucky enough to grab a few wheels (Cyclismas and NYVelocity) and slowly but surely bring himself back up through the group with the aid of thousands of cyclists also fed up with the UCI's actions over the past 20 years.

Just an hour ago Kimmage's pulled level. Looking across and see his old foe in trouble he has now launched his own attack. He is using the fund to counter sue the UCI (McQuaid). He has just tweeted ”unleash hell'.

It's all about cycling.

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_SiD_ | 11 years ago
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Dick Pound, former head of WADA, gives his opinion of the UCI's recent spate of lawsuits.
Pound himself went through a similar experience with the UCI in recent years and was forced to make a 'public apology'.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12997/Richard-Pound-Interview-The-Kimm...

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_SiD_ | 11 years ago
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A bit more background to the current case.
Kimmage interview from 2011.

http://soundcloud.com/cycling-central/kimmage-revisited-anthony-tan

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_SiD_ | 11 years ago
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David Walsh on the detail contained in USADA's case against US. Postal

http://www.scribd.com/doc/108440794/Walsh-ST

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_SiD_ | 11 years ago
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Latest update from Red Kite Prayer:

The legalities of the UCI's case and how Kimmage might proceed.

http://redkiteprayer.com/2012/09/the-explainer-of-being-fools-etc/

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_SiD_ | 11 years ago
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Just updating the thread:
Kimmage interview on Velonation as the defense fund tops $40,000 and 1200 contributors.

www.velonation.com/News/ID/12947/Kimmage-selecting-legal-defence-backing...

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