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The most open ITT I can remember with no Wiggins,Cancellara,Froome,Evans etc.

Martin's form not the best and the course is not really the best for him but class is permanent or can Contador recover after his Vuelta exploits?I doubt anyone will have both with the quality DS' involved.

At least 2 and probably 3 of Chavanel,Kessiakoff,Pinotti and Tejay will most likely be in all teams and that may well be where the scoring splits occur.

Velits may be worth a go? Are we getting 5pt team-mate bonuses for trade teams?

Then the plethora of high priced DS' all with good claims to place highly.

Phinney is always a threat

Larsson may find it too lumpy

Westra will like the terrain and have home advantage

Meyer may be t-o-o-o expensive

Grabsch can destroy anyone on his day

Gretsch rounds out a good German team

Tuft took the ENECO ITT

Castroviejo is in ahead of some other decent Spanish TT'ers so must be in form

Plus a couple of real secret weapons with the right research.

Anyone looking at anyone outside of those mentioned?

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TERatcliffe26 [4600 posts] 3 years ago
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ive got two teams atm

one with martin and one without

Basically will Martin, Tuft and Chitouri (something like that)

outscore

Velits, Meyer and Gretsch  39

Chavanel, Phinney, Larsson and Westra have not been considered for my team, mainly due to cost compared to similar riders that could do just as well based on form etc

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AWPeleton [3277 posts] 3 years ago
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Contador is a possibility, I think he will defo be top 10 could be top 5 but how high remains to be seen.

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Gkam84 [9086 posts] 3 years ago
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I don't know if there are any +5's in the ITT, for the worlds it is based on nation, not trade team  3

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noddy69 [76 posts] 3 years ago
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As its based on nation rather then team should the 2 person from a team not be replaced with 2 from a nation, or would that be just too difficult and pointless at this late stage.

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Gkam84 [9086 posts] 3 years ago
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Its never been a rule for 2 per nation and it would be a little pointless. There is no guaranteed winner, so if you want to fill your team with one national, fire away, no-one will be following you  3

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AWPeleton [3277 posts] 3 years ago
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I dont know, if you filled your team with a certain Iranian i'm sure you would get at least one follower  4

Sir Walter might be his name  24

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Gkam84 [9086 posts] 3 years ago
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Sohrabi not racing the ITT though

Here is the final startlist

http://www.limburg2012.nl/upload/documents/41_ROA_CM2012_Startinglist_TT...

58 riders, So hopefully Dave goes and takes out the extra 16  3

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Debarrio [78 posts] 3 years ago
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16 degrees, 4 NW (there is quite a section going in the NW direction) and a 70% chance of rain. Not ideal for flyers like Contador?

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AWPeleton [3277 posts] 3 years ago
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Debarrio wrote:

16 degrees, 4 NW (there is quite a section going in the NW direction) and a 70% chance of rain. Not ideal for flyers like Contador?

Depends how strong the wind is when they are on the course. The rain is the worrying point for most riders, you can add a canny chunk of time on for when its wet compared to the lads out when its dry.

Its wide open this year and will be good to see a possibly lesser known rider wearing the bands compared to the usuual suspects.

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 3 years ago
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All mine are in by the looks of Gkam's startlist but I'm a bit worried about some of the start-times.....who decides the seedings?

Still aiming at a top 50 overall premium finish and need to make up 8 points to satisfy that.Quite a few 'Forum-ers'in and around the 50th place (RCorbin,OButterwick,DrHeaton and WigBilly) so no mean feat.....although you'll probably al crush me now by telling me they're your purist teams  44

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Wig_Billy [578 posts] 3 years ago
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The Road.cc startlist has the wrong Bodnar.

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TERatcliffe26 [4600 posts] 3 years ago
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Wig_Billy wrote:

The Road.cc startlist has the wrong Bodnar.

It had the wrong Vandewalle too, but dont know if thats changed

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dave atkinson [6209 posts] 3 years ago
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why so it does. but not any more.

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 3 years ago
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I'll Name and Shame

Martin
Kessiakoff
VanGarderen
Chavanel
Castroviejo(last minute swap for Kelderman)
Westra
Tuft
Durbridge
Phinney

Looking forward to this!!

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Wig_Billy [578 posts] 3 years ago
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Martin
Velits
Contador
Van Garderen
Westra
Kelderman
Durbridge
Leygel
Albos

The first 5 should be right up there. Kelderman & Durbridge were too cheap to ignore. The last two are an attempt to get last man home.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Contador
Van Garderen
Kessiakoff
De Gendt
Meyer
Phinney
Westra
Durbridge
Chtioui

Covering as many bases as possible and I don't think Martin will be competitve. No sure about Phinney and Durbridge, may be too hilly for them.

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AWPeleton [3277 posts] 3 years ago
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Kept away from some of the big boys so i could go for some better ds'. My No 1 winning super team looks like this:

Sylvain Chavanel
Tejay van Garderen
Peter Velits
Fredrik Kessiakoff
Jonathan Castroviejo
Cameron Meyer
Taylor Phinney
Ramunas Navardauskas
Luke Durbridge.

Here's hoping  4

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TERatcliffe26 [4600 posts] 3 years ago
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Here is mine

Velits
Contador
Tejay
Kessiakoff

Durbridge
Meyer
Kelderman
Gretsch
Cratrovejo

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 3 years ago
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Wet for the early runners

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Gkam84 [9086 posts] 3 years ago
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SO after chopping and changing last night. I settled for this for my main team. Putting my reserves in my other team  19

Alberto Contador
Tejay van Garderen
Fredrik Kessiakoff
Marco Pinotti
Taylor Phinney
Svein Tuft
Luke Durbridge
Jonathan Castroviejo
Bert Grabsch

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Gkam84 [9086 posts] 3 years ago
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Here are my reserve team  3

Jakob Fuglsang
Rein Taaramae
Janez Brajkovic
Peter Velits
Vasil Kiryienka
Gustav Erik Larsson
Patrick Gretsch
Jesse Sergent
Wilco Kelderman

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AWPeleton [3277 posts] 3 years ago
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You'll not win with that team mate, as its not the same as mine  19

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AWPeleton [3277 posts] 3 years ago
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And neither is your second one !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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silas chime [189 posts] 3 years ago
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After only starting after 20 or so stages this season I've decided to gamble on some wildcards in the final few races.

Contador
DeGendt
VanGarderen
Kessiakoff
Meyer
Kelderman
Grivko
Durbridge
Dowsett

I doubt many will have Dowsett,Grivko or DeGendt so hoping they can outscore Tuft,Phinney and Pinotti who were my original options.

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 3 years ago
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Tejay
Velits
Chavenal
Kessiakoff

Meyer
Durbridge
Phinney
Westra
Grabsch

After 11 changes i finally settled with that lot  39
Not convinced about Martin. seeing how he's supposed to be having an operation closed season  3

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silas chime [189 posts] 3 years ago
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DeGendt poor,Dowsett above par  39

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TERatcliffe26 [4600 posts] 3 years ago
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Ive got this very wrong!

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Gkam84 [9086 posts] 3 years ago
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ARGH, Marco  20 20 20

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STEVESPRO 79 [541 posts] 3 years ago
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I surrender....Only Pinotti going well and now he has fell off big time......  20

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Gkam84 [9086 posts] 3 years ago
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Martin's caught Contador  19

Marco is out, busted collarbone  20 20

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