“… the only good cyclist is a dead one …” – editor of the richmond magazine – september issue

I doubt very much that a member of my family is in any more danger on a bike than they were before this editorial was written (my wife certainly isn't judging by the thick layer of dust on her bike).

The guy (who I think is an idiot for writing this, by the way) is obviously making the 2 exagerated remarks in an unsuccessful attempt to put a 'grumpy old man' comedy spin on his enjoyment of the Olympics.

I cycle a lot, and I drive a lot.

When I'm driving some cyclists infuriate me too - in fact it happened today when a cyclist passed me on the near-side, between kerb & car, at a very busy junction as I was moving off and veering slightly left to avoid the attentions of a large truck in the lane next to me. I thought I was going to clip him - luckily I saw him just in time. As he looked at me I mentioned that his male appendage was located on the fore of his head! Now, that guy needs to learn how to cycle properly if he wants to stay alive.

Having said that, when I cycle, I know that I take the odd risk - afterall it's difficult to ride fast if you've gotta keep stopping , so I'm sure I've annoyed drivers too.

I find that taking an aggresive position on the road, riding fast, staying aware and anticipating is the safest way to ride. It keeps me alive (or at least it has done so far - nearly 40 now). However, I'm sure this style of riding annoys the hell out of people like the guy who wrote this article. I doubt he'd ever try to kill me though. You usually find that people like him are all mouth (or pen) and no balls.

No, he has to step down.

That is a pretty shitty collection of words, and him the editor?

I almost resent RoadCC for sending me there & boosting their stats.

All it is is a local free glossy that sells advertising space, and is largely put straight in the recycling (or bin) in most households. The few who do open the pages probably flick straight to the back to dream about the property being advertised, before putting it in the recycling also.

I wouldn't worry about him. If he'd have made the comment over a pint with his mates down the pub, he'd have had a wider audience that his editorial column has.

Hmm… yes it would be offensive (and against the law)if Mr Nye had substituted 'gay', 'black', or 'muslim' for the word 'cyclist'.

However I'm not sure that the analogy of comparing cyclists with those sections of society that have suffered generations of discrimination works, for the simple reason that most cyclists unless they are also black, moslem, female, or gay will the moment they get of their bikes instantly revert to being part of the least discriminated against, least disadvantaged group in British society - middle class white blokes.

Also I'd have to say that historically our problem as cycists has not been that we are discriminated against - somebody actually has to notice you're there to do that. Our big problem is that for the most part we've been invisible to or ignored by our fellow road users, and by planners and traffic engineers, and politicians although maybe that's not the same if you live and ride in London?

When Clarkson started sounding off about cyclists all those years back I was pleased because it put us on the media map and our responses to him helped make cyclists more visible as a group while also demonstrating our collective power. Over the years the Clarkson schtick has all got a bit boring, and attitudes have started to change - if you notice Clarkson hardly ever mouths off about cyclists these days that's left to less media savvy wannabes like blokey from Richmond.

It seems to me that we need to find a way to respond to stuff like this that is less knee jerk, more considered, and more humourous so we can save our anger for those things that really deserve it - see above.

Personally I find it slightly ironic that while people rightly rail against the 'language of hate' used by anti-cycling commentators they often respond with what looks suspiciously like language of hate of their own - not that anybody here has.

Heh. I was mulling it over whilst driving home yesterday and my conclusion was pretty much point-for-point the same as your last post, Tony

Do you think road.cc has a potential role to play in dealing with the meatier issues, such as inappropriate ministerial positions, or the issues of poor driving standards, or unfathomable inequalities of sentencing? I appreciate there are bodies such as the CTC already doing this, but road.cc has a different if not wider audience and is a bit more dynamic in terms of communication.

Tony, I wasn't intending to comparing the lot of the UK's cyclists with persecuted social groups, merely trying to show that by substituting one for the other it more obvious that what is being said is not acceptable.

On the subject of Stuff That Is Actually Worth Doing Something About, how about the serial offender's get-out-of-jail-free card, the "exceptional hardship" plea?

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/local/darlington/9915984.Darlingto...

The sole purpose of this gambit is to allow people who are serial driving offenders and/or extremely dangerous drivers (ie earning an instant ban) to drive. If their family's welfare is genuinely dependent on their driving licence, then it's up to them to keep and earn their licence, not up to the court to dismiss everyone else's safety on their behalf.

It's a piece of sheer legislative lunacy, akin to being let off for stabbing someone on the basis that you're a butcher.

So: anyone sparing some bile on Twitter or Facebook for Mr Nye, please divert it to the "exceptional hardship" plea or something.

Nye Nye Nye, I cannot believe the stupidity of those comments. Certainly in bad taste; and it's a racist comment. He needs to be taught a lesson! I'm shocked that it was published in a Magazine at all; even though it's borough mag.

Anyone driving a motor vehicle should be grateful for every cyclist he/she sees on the road, it's one less person clogging the over congested highways in a unhealthy polluting motorised vehicle.

Sit in a traffic queue for an hour or so; and you'll soon wish you were riding a bicycle! Oh, and while your on the road in your motor vehicle, remember that it's a human life form riding the bicycle; and life is precious to all.

Take care.

Good grief. Some idiot makes a bad taste joke in the sort of freesheet nobody reads and the internet catches fire. Can't you think of another journalist we should be discussing, or does omerta go further than I thought?

The editor is a moron, too stupid to appreciate that more cyclists on the roads means less road congestion for car drivers like him.

I emailed him to complain and suggest that others do the same. It might be an idea to get the publisher's email and complain. I suppose a complaint to the PCC would also be a good idea. I'm not sure of the procedure involved though.

What a stuck up idiot!

Car drivers are better off dead, least then cyclists would'nt get run down and killed.

Works Both ways

I wonder if it was the same guy who deliberately pulled over to block me cycling on the left hand side of the traffic today (where there was a good space made by all other car drivers to allow cyclists through) while he was stuck in traffic today, so he could yell at me for riding my bike on the road ... Poor little angry people make me laugh..

Perhaps he should move? H*** would seem like a good location for someone who promotes hostility at this level.