TdF Stage 18 - Blagnac to Brive-la-Gaillarde

by drheaton   July 20, 2012  

Long 'flat' day today but a 4th cat climb 10km from the finish may mix things up. Chance for Goss to finally win a stage? Will Lotto/Sky/Liquigas bother to chase down a breakaway for their guys or will it all go the way of Monday?

My team:

Wiggins
Froome
Sagan
Hinault
Jeandesboz
Vichot
Simon
Boeckmans
Impey

Hoping for one of my three disappointing french DSs to get in the break and actually do something for once and for a sprint finish without Goss/Griepel.

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chrisdstripes wrote:
Unlucky Gkam - Roy took decent points in the intermediate too. I've got 15pts there for Boeckmans, and its quite conceivable thats all the points I'll get today!

Until you pointed him out, I didn't even notice him......BOOST, I have him in my purist and the guy i'm chasing for top premium purist 22 points ahead of me doesn't have him Devil Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
20th July 2012 - 12:27

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I'm home now and watching. Rabobank have been on the front, maybe they think the climb is close enough to the finish for LuLu. Liquigas have just put a man up there too, gap down to 1:45. OPQ must have been working for my man De Weert... Liar

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
20th July 2012 - 13:12

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On the front now are the teams with no-one in the break - OPQ, Euskatel and Rabobank - gap down to 1:30 with 45km left. Blimey - it just went down 10 secs in about 1 km...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
20th July 2012 - 13:20

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Millar attacking on the penultimate climb, Vino and EBH leading the chase...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
20th July 2012 - 13:21

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Just realised I'm acting as if I'm doing minute-by-minute - hope nobody minds, its quite fun...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
20th July 2012 - 13:22

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Now Arashiro goes, with Rui Costa following. Arashiro gets the 5 fantasy mountain points.

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
20th July 2012 - 13:23

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Break group back together, then EBH tries to up the pace. Paul Sherwen gives us our daily unwanted reminder that his nickname amongst the Sky Team is Bo-Dog. Surely he can come up with another Edvald fact by now?

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
20th July 2012 - 13:26

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If you've been injured in an accident at work, apparently there are about seventeen different phone numbers you could call. Minute-by-minute with ad breaks isn't quite the same...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
20th July 2012 - 13:29

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Please stop with the spam Crying

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
20th July 2012 - 13:31

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Saur on the front now! Boeckmans and Fouchard looked like they were slipping out the back of the break but I think they've got back. ("Boeckmans got back" - a new Sir Mixalot single maybe...)
At this rate the break will get caught by the last climb, but there are some strong guys in there (Millar, Nuyens, Popovych, Vino, Rui Costa, EBH) that could string it out a bit...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
20th July 2012 - 13:34

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OK - I'll stop now! Thought I'd carry on til someone said otherwise Big Grin

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
20th July 2012 - 13:35

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Its fine doing the odd update here and there, but minute by minute is only worth it when something is happening. So in the final climb of a mountain stage or something like that. Today is boring as hell because no-one has anything left to work for.

I dont think the break will get caught. They are working together, where are in the peleton, there are 3 teams trying to pull the lot along, its just yo-yoing Thinking

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
20th July 2012 - 13:38

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I was thinking the same, but its come down again now. If they reach them before the last climb, it could actually end up being a good end - more attacks on the climb and the sprinters trying to stay in touch for the sprint...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
20th July 2012 - 13:44

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It's a game of cat and mouse, I reckon the Peloton would have preferred to make the catch after the last climb. Having a group sat up the road at 30 seconds makes it perfect for launching small counter attacks and that means the pace up the last climb may well be high, spitting out a few sprinters before the top.

Could well be an interesting last 15km, shame about the first 205...

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
20th July 2012 - 14:00

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Come on Sanchez Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
20th July 2012 - 14:08

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Cavendish WOW Surprise

posted by ray silvester [1858 posts]
20th July 2012 - 14:17

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Nice work by Cav, some power. Sagan got my 3rd and Sanchez still up there.....Good day and will be returning to my top premium purist again...... Wink Wink

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
20th July 2012 - 14:18

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Nice one Gkam - what TTers and sprinters do you have in your purist team for the weekend? Confident?

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
20th July 2012 - 14:19

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Dry run for Sunday me thinks and hopefully Cav will be able to deliver then too Cool

posted by Marauder [246 posts]
20th July 2012 - 14:20

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3rd and 4th in the last few stages of a 3 week tour for a purist. I say thats great. plus 15 for the sprint.

The person i'm chasing has Sagan aswell and had Impey but not Boeckmans

So overhauled the 22 points I was behind them Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
20th July 2012 - 14:21

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Hmmm, 3, 8, 9, 17 and 19 plus 10 points for Cav winning plus Boeckmans at the intermediate. Not a bad day but not amazing.

Gotta love the yellow lead-out though.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
20th July 2012 - 14:21

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chrisdstripes wrote:
Nice one Gkam - what TTers and sprinters do you have in your purist team for the weekend? Confident?

My team looks like this, taking out the 3 riders who have gone. So Wiggo, Sanchez and Grivko are my TT me, Izagirre might get in the top 20. But I hope Sanchez can live up to his Spanish nation TT championship

Bradley Wiggins (SKY)
Luis Leon Sanchez (RAB)
Peter Sagan (LIQ)
Andriy Grivko (AST)
Gorka Izagirre (EUS)
Kris Boeckmans (VCD)

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posted by Gkam84 [9040 posts]
20th July 2012 - 14:24

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Looks like 97 points or thereabouts.Hoping for green arrows

posted by ray silvester [1858 posts]
20th July 2012 - 14:33

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Every time I lose confidence in Cav and don't pick him, he goes and wins!!

I suppose I'd better not pick him for Paris now! Wink

posted by pirnie [198 posts]
20th July 2012 - 14:42

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drheaton wrote:
Simon in the break for me, he's been poor so far, I expected much more from him, Jeandesboz and Vichot but they let me down.

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Perez, Pineau, Simon, Morkov, Sprick and Fofonov are 40" ahead of the peloton

Vichot has been a waste of space, but last year he helped me win a stage (no prize unfortunatley) so I kept him in as a lucky charm, which worked yesterday I suppose. I should have had Izagirre from the beginning though. Would have got me 60 more points at least. I think to be fair the Giro knackered Vichot. He's only about 24 and he's ridden 2 Grand Tours back-to-back. I can see him winning more breakaways in the future.

Simon's picked up a few points when I've had him.

The best FDJ DS has been Pinot who has been great for me. Put him in before stage 7 so he's earnt me a lot of points. I can also see him winning more breakaways in the future and maybe challenging for GC if he moves to SKY. Wink

posted by Alan Tullett [1465 posts]
20th July 2012 - 15:06

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Alan Tullett wrote:
Vichot has been a waste of space, but last year he helped me win a stage (no prize unfortunatley) so I kept him in as a lucky charm, which worked yesterday I suppose. I should have had Izagirre from the beginning though. Would have got me 60 more points at least. I think to be fair the Giro knackered Vichot. He's only about 24 and he's ridden 2 Grand Tours back-to-back. I can see him winning more breakaways in the future.

Simon's picked up a few points when I've had him.

The best FDJ DS has been Pinot who has been great for me. Put him in before stage 7 so he's earnt me a lot of points. I can also see him winning more breakaways in the future and maybe challenging for GC if he moves to SKY. Wink

Agreed, Vichot has been poor but he won a stage of the CdD so thought he may be in form, either way he's been too cheap/pointless to ditch so he's stuck there, Jeandesboz has scored a few points but is similar, stuck there as their are other people that needed transferring out first. Simon has got me a few points but not what I'd hoped for but I've had Izagirre for most of the tour, only ditched him after Wednesday thinking he'd be knackered.

Pinot has been great but I picked him two stages too late missing his big break and the day Rolland won (thinking he'd had his day and wouldn't do anything else). I can't see him moving anywhere yet but surely with the quality of French riders coming though one of the French teams needs to get serious and try for the GC. All of them (Saur, FDJ, Europcar, Cofidis) seem to bring a guy that can manage on his own and maybe top 20/30 GC but they never work for him, Coppel being a prime example. They all concentrate on stage wins picking aggresive do or die riders, not consistent climbers.

If FDJ or Europcar got their act together and really tried to push one of Rolland/Pinot onto the next level I reckon they could be on the podium next year. Their only flaw is time trialling.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
20th July 2012 - 15:18

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Europcar really need to get into the 'Big Leagues' first which would guarantee 3 grand tours.

posted by ray silvester [1858 posts]
20th July 2012 - 15:52

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Yeah. I agree. French teams need to get behind their main riders and give them some help. Otherwise they won't win anything big.

Think I got mixed up between Giro and Dauphine with Vichot. It all blends into one after a while. He's more of a sprinter than anything so I was surprised to see him win that stage. He was 6th on stage 6 last year and that helped me win a stage as very few people had him.

He didn't do anything today though because he, Gilbert, whom I originally fancied for today, and some other riders were involved in a crash caused by a dog. Vichot, Urtasun, and Izagirre came in the bottom 10 so no hope now. Going to try and stay top 20 Premium or even full TdF and top 20 overall as I originally intended. Pretty sure everyone is going to have the same 4 riders for the TT tomorrow and I've already done my transfers as there's nothing to think about. Just got to decide whether I'm going to put in Cav for 20 as whenever I have him he crashes and I want him to win!! Back to his best today and the hill didn't cause too many problems so more hopeful now about Olympic gold especially as Boonen's not on top form.

posted by Alan Tullett [1465 posts]
20th July 2012 - 16:45

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Interested in the 'same four' that everyone's going to have, I can think of an obvious three who may well be 1, 2, 3 but the 4th isn't as obvious, Grivko maybe?

I've already got Wiggins and Froome, will swap out Sagan/Hinault for Van Garderen and either Millar, Sanchez or Velits. Won't be bothering with any TTing DSs, saving a transfer for Sunday so I can bring in some extra sprinters.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
20th July 2012 - 17:14

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*edited and put in new thread

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20th July 2012 - 18:17

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