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Starting this one early. Well desperate times call for desperate measures. I've taken a big penalty hit and redesigned my team around breakaway specialists from teams with no stage wins, and 2 high ranking non GC jersey holders. Get this right I score ok with 2 HC etc and downhill finish. Get it wrong and I go down down down.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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I'm fairly lucky in that the guys I've picked as my breakaway people for the past 10 stages haven't done anything... so surely they need to try and get in a break today or tomorrow?!

Either way, I've had nothing but red arrows over the weekend and my shot at a decent placing has all but evaporated so I've also gone more towards breakaway points than solid GC/finish points. Hoping it pays off but if the last two weeks are anything to go by it won't  2

At least I didn't bring in Schleck as a rest day transfers!  4

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chrisdstripes [1705 posts] 3 years ago
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Yes dr after what you said last time I waited for the rest day drug news before making my transfers!

My DS are no secret, they've been the same for 3 days. De Weert, Stortoni, Jeandesbosz, Pinot and Boeckmans.
I've gone fairly risky on the stars, going for a chance of breakaway points - Rolland, Valls and Sorensen - leaves me with room for one star to keep for the TT which is Froome.

Copy me if you like - my record in mountain stages is not good!

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Wiggins
Froome
Rolland
Kessiakoff
Jeandesboz
Simon
Pinot
Vichot
Iazgirre

Pinot's not much a secret at this point but I can see him attacking over the next two days, he's too far down on Wiggins to be a threat but needs 2 or 3 minutes on TJvG to have a chance at the white jersey. TJvG "shouldn't" be able to follow him if he's still nursing Evans up the climbs so Pinot should have a go.

Hoping Rolland wants the polka dot (I can't see why he wouldn't) or maybe another summit win on Thursday. Either way I need him and Kessiakoff to battle it out if I want some points. Tempted to bring in Scarponi though for Thursday as Lampre have been poor and Thursday would be their last chance at a stage win.

Plan is simple, I've saved one transfer, I'll make one more tomorrow then two for Friday (flat), three for Saturday (TT) and my last three for Sunday (Paris).

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TERatcliffe26 [4465 posts] 3 years ago
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well im hoping rolland and kessiakoff to battle for the polka dot, so ive gone like this

Wiggins
Van Garderen
Kessiakoff
Rolland

Casar
Vichot
Izagirre
Impey
Boeckmans

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thefatcyclist [543 posts] 3 years ago
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Heres mine, too similar to previous breaks in the cold light of dawn.

Fredrik Kessiakoff (AST)
Rui Alberto Faria Da Costa (MOV)
Nicolas Roche (ALM)
Dries Devenyns (OPQ)
Egoi Martinez (EUS)
Christophe Kern (EUC)
Fabrice Jeandesboz (SAU)
Michael Albasini (GRE)
Thibaut Pinot (FDJ)

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 3 years ago
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I've gone for a chance in a couple of different stars  39

Daniel Martin (his turn for a break)
Bradley Wiggins
Fredrik Kessiakoff
Nicolas Roche (wants top 10 overall)

Michael Albasini
Gorka Izagirre
Joan Horrach
Thibaut Pinot
Nicolas Edet

What ever happens i'm saving transfers for the weekend  26

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chrisdstripes [1705 posts] 3 years ago
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thefatcyclist wrote:

Heres mine, too similar to previous breaks in the cold light of dawn.

Fredrik Kessiakoff (AST)
Rui Alberto Faria Da Costa (MOV)
Nicolas Roche (ALM)
Dries Devenyns (OPQ)
Egoi Martinez (EUS)
Christophe Kern (EUC)
Fabrice Jeandesboz (SAU)
Michael Albasini (GRE)
Thibaut Pinot (FDJ)

I like your style!

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 3 years ago
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Mine looks mighty conservative compared to some of the above

Froome(for Sagan)
Wiggins(for Cavendish)
L.Sanchez
Zubeldia(for Chavanel)
Edet
Vichot
Pinot
Boeckmans
Coppel(for Cantwell)

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Conservative is no bad thing, conservative is certainly the way to go when you're near the top of the league as I've found in general that taking risks never pays off. It's only because I'm so far behind I've picked Rolland and Kessiakoff otherwise it'd be Nibali and Zubeldia probably, or Van den Broeck maybe.

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silas chime [189 posts] 3 years ago
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I agree that Rolland and Kessiakoff are very atractive thanks to the KOM battle and think that this is the kind of stage for Nibali to attack on the final climb and try and make it stick on the descent..

That left me with a decision on the fourth star and I went for Tejay over Roche as I can then leave him in right through to the time trial.

This will be my team for today and tomorrow barring withdrawal

Nibali
VanGarderen
Kessiakoff
Rolland
Pinot
Albasini
Vichot
Edet
Izagirre

Also it comes to exactly 150 credits so hoping that's an omen  26

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Grrr  14

Fedrigo is in the break, I had him down as a must have for this stage (he always wins on the Tourmalet stage!) but figured he wouldn't bother after Monday  20

Sounds like a huge break of 38 including the likes of Voeckler, Vinokourov, Kessiakoff, Paulinho, Egoi Martinez, Brice Feillu and Jens Voigt.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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intermediate sprint wrote:

1. Paulinho (STB) 20pts
2. Casar (FDJ) 17pts
3. Kruiswijk (RAB) 15pts
4. Arashiro (EUC) 13pts
5. Vorganov (KAT) 11pts
6. Cummings (BMC) 10pts
7. Marzano ( 9pts
8. Vals Ferri (VCD) 8pts
9. Voigt (RNT) 7pts
10. Martin (GRS) 6pts
11. Azanza (EUS) 5pts
12. Ladagnous (FDJ) 4pts
13. Kiryienka (MOV) 3pts
14. Levarlet (SAU) 2pts
15. Costa (MOV) 1pt

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Wig_Billy [577 posts] 3 years ago
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I have at least 6 in the break, although a couple of them will undoubtedly get dropped on Aubisque.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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The break:

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The 38 stage leaders
Cummings, Hincapie (BMC)
Popovych, Voigt (RNT)
Voeckler, Arashiro (EUC)
Azanza, Martinez and Izaguirre (EUS)
Hondo, Manzano, Stortoni (LAM)
Martin (GRS)
Bouet, Minard (ALM)
Taaramae, Dumoulin (COF)
Feillu, Levarlet, Marino (SAU)
Hoogerland, Valls Ferri (VCD)
Caruso, Trofimov, Vorganov (KAT)
Casar, Fedrigo, Ladagnous (FDJ)
Kruiswijk, Ten Dam (RAB)
Costa, Karpets, Kiryienka (MOV)
Paulinho, C. Sorensen (STB)
Kessiakoff, Vinokourov (AST)
Sprick (ARG)

I have one  20

I have at some time or another had about 7 of those and I have two Saur riders today, Simon and Jeandesboz, unfortunately three of the other Saur riders decided to get in the break instead  14

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Wig_Billy [577 posts] 3 years ago
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My team.

Michele Scarponi (LAM)
Steven Kruijswijk (RAB) in the break
Fredrik Kessiakoff (AST) in the break
Chris Anker Sorensen (SAX) in the break
Matthieu Ladagnous (FDJ) in the break
Yann Huguet (ARG)
Vasil Kiryienka (MOV) in the break
Yukiya Arashiro (EUC) in the break
Julien Simon (SAU)

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 3 years ago
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I've got
Kessiakoff
Izagirre
Dan Martin(6 int sprint points)

Looks like 3 way for polka today  26

Kessiakoff
Voeckler
Sorensen

Maybe 4 with Casar in the break too  39

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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It depends, HC are 15 points each, cat 1 is 10 points so today the max you can get is 50. As long as Kessiakoff places well on every climb he should be ok, he's got a 30 point cushion back to Sorensen and 32 to Voeckler.

I think there's another 42 on offer tomorrow so I reckon as long as Kessiakoff picks up 30 points today he'll have the jersey in the bag.

Dissapointed with Rolland though, thought he might fancy his chances.

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Wig_Billy [577 posts] 3 years ago
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Rolland's only aim is a good GC place and he wouldn't be allowed in the break anyway.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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I don't know, if you had the choice between top 10 GC and the polka dot jersey which would you choose?

He's likely to lose another good few minutes against the clock on Saturday so I'm sure Sky would let him go, they weren't fussed when he got in the break to win a stage last week.

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 3 years ago
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Yes but in the race it's actually 25 points for 1st over HC CAT CLIMB  4
So battle is on!

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Wig_Billy [577 posts] 3 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

I don't know, if you had the choice between top 10 GC and the polka dot jersey which would you choose?

He's likely to lose another good few minutes against the clock on Saturday so I'm sure Sky would let him go, they weren't fussed when he got in the break to win a stage last week.

Other teams with riders in the top 10 would be worried about letting him go, not just Sky.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Wig_Billy wrote:
drheaton wrote:

I don't know, if you had the choice between top 10 GC and the polka dot jersey which would you choose?

He's likely to lose another good few minutes against the clock on Saturday so I'm sure Sky would let him go, they weren't fussed when he got in the break to win a stage last week.

Other teams with riders in the top 10 would be worried about letting him go, not just Sky.

True, but if I were Sky that'd only encourage me to let him go  1 Let Liquigas, BMC and Lotto do some work to chase him down.

I see what you mean though, I guess the polka dot jersey just doesn't mean as much as it used to.

Also, yeah, forgot to check what points were actually on offer annd just went with what I could remember, obviously just the fantasy points  7

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chrisdstripes [1705 posts] 3 years ago
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Well its a better start for me - the three I wanted in the break are all in (Stortoni, Valls and Chris-Anker), but with 35 others its unlikely that the first two will score much, although Sorensen should hopefully be going for it. Then Rolland, Froome and Pinot to come through later, and Jeandesbosz and De Weert saving themselves for tomorrow, with Boeckmans dead last - Perfect!

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Quote:

Result of the col d'Aubisque
1. Voeckler (EUC) 15pts
2. Kessiakoff (AST) 12pts
3. Arashiro (EUC) 10pts
4. Sorensen (STB) 18pts
5. Vinokourov (AST) 6pts
6. Martin (GRS) 5pts
7. Karpets (MOV) 4pts - at 12"
8. Martinez (EUS) 3pts
9. Vorganov (KAT) 2pts
10. Izaguirre (EUS) 1pts

Those are fantasy points by the way, Voeckler (62) has closed the gap on Kessiakoff (89) to 27 points. Rolland (55) is now 34 points behind Kessiakoff in 3rd and is pretty much out of it now, Sorensen (53) in 4th.

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thefatcyclist [543 posts] 3 years ago
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38 in the break and i've got just 3. Not good enough.

HC: 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
1st cat: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1
2nd cat: 5, 3, 2, 1
3rd cat: 5, 3
4th cat: 5

BTW

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TERatcliffe26 [4465 posts] 3 years ago
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maybe brining in Rolland was amistake, but couldnt afford voeckler, although i expect him to be at the finish for tomorrows stage and try and win it.

so far 14pts for casar at the sprint, then 12 for kessiakoff and 1 for izagirre

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Evans being distanced by Basso/Nibali and Sky, the big question is, do BMC allow TJvG to stay with the front group or does he have to help out his leader?

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Wig_Billy [577 posts] 3 years ago
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Looks like another day where I do reasonably well, but miss out on the big scorer of the day (Voeckler today).

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chrisdstripes [1705 posts] 3 years ago
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I'm suffering from my stubbornness not to pick Izaguirre just because everyone else has!

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chrisdstripes [1705 posts] 3 years ago
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Stortoni about 8th though so that makes up for it a bit!

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