TdF Stage 4 - Abbeville-Rouen

by drheaton   July 4, 2012  

A flat stage along the coast, the peloton may be broken up by the winds but the run in to the finish is pretty long and away from the coast and it's all likely to come back together again. Pretty much a cast iron sprint finish.

Will Cav win again? Can Sagan make it 3? Can Griepel/Goss ever move out of Cavendish's shadow? Is Kittel feeling better? Is Morkov totally cooked or will be away again?

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If Morkov goes again, he is Legend.

Greipel I think will do well today, along with the Manx Express

Sir Velo

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posted by Raleigh [1728 posts]
4th July 2012 - 11:28

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A break is away already! Arashiro, Moncoutie and Delaplace. One of three ain't bad Big Grin

Oh, Tjallingii is out with a broken hip too. That makes three abandonments after Sivtsov and Rojas called it a day yesterday.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
4th July 2012 - 11:28

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Other than having another breakaway guy that's gone pretty well for me. Three in the break means more intermediate sprint points for sprinters and I have Arashiro Smile

Today I've got:

Cavendish
Goss
Sagan
Van Hummel
Arashiro
Simon
Levarlet
Bernaudeau
Izagirre

So hoping for Arashiro to take everything (although I reckon Moncoutie'll take the mountain points) and a bunch finish.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
4th July 2012 - 11:34

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COME ON MORKOV.

Chase that break!

Sir Velo

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posted by Raleigh [1728 posts]
4th July 2012 - 11:43

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Boo hiss - 2 Saur riders but not that one! Never mind, I still have a half-decent sprint team (Goss, Greipel, van Hummel, Sagan), may bring Cav in for Sagan tomorrow.

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posted by chrisdstripes [1581 posts]
4th July 2012 - 12:11

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some luck for me at last?

My team is

Cav
Goss
JJ Haedo
Sagan

Simon
Lancaster
Zabriske
Edet
Arashiro

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3861 posts]
4th July 2012 - 12:25

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4th Premium/8th Overall in TDF so went for the tried and trusted:

Cavendish(in for Boassen Hagen)
Greipel(in for Cancellara)
Sagan
Freire
Cantwell
Impey
Cooke
Boeckmans
Urtasun

posted by silas chime [208 posts]
4th July 2012 - 13:27

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Stupid Moncoutie Angry has taken all three of the first climbs (and will no doubt take the 4th) for a cool 15 points so far. My man Arashiro better take the intermediate sprint or I won't be happy Angry

One thing I've noticed this year is that the huge selection of 'star' sprinters means very few fantasy DSs are actually getting anywhere near the bunch sprints. Stage 2 had only 2 DSs in the top 20 Sad

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
4th July 2012 - 13:29

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i think Arashiro should manage to take the sprint Smile im sure he will beat moncutie at least!

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3861 posts]
4th July 2012 - 13:51

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I decided not to put Morkov in for Stage 3 to save an extra transfer for today but after he went again & I ended up "losing" 48 points yesterday I decided I had to put him in today... Crying

Hoping Goss, Greipel & Sagan can get me some good points, although I'm sure quite a few teams have them in so not sure how much difference it will make even if they do

posted by d_jp [104 posts]
4th July 2012 - 14:16

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Turns out Moncoutie only took 2 of the first 3 climbs, Delaplace took the 2nd.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
4th July 2012 - 14:39

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Moncoutie getting some points for my purist team. Smile

posted by Wig_Billy [575 posts]
4th July 2012 - 14:41

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Hurrah! Sprint points!

1. Arashiro (15pts)
2. Delaplace (14pts)
3. Moncoutie (13pts)

and the peloton...

4. Cavendish (12 pts)
5. Goss (11 pts)
6. Renshaw (RAB) 10pts
7. Sagan (LIQ) 9pts
8. Petacchi (LAM) 8pts
9. van Hummel (VCD) 7pts
10. Hutarovich (FDJ) 6pts
11. Burghardt (BMC) 5pts
12. Kuchynski (KAT) 4pts
13. Lancaster (OGE) 3pts
14. Impey (OCE) 2pts
15. Ladagnous (FD) 1pt

and Delaplace took the last climb ahead of Moncoutie so they've split the 20 KoM points on offer between themselves.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
4th July 2012 - 15:14

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Holy crap, that intermediate was worth 57 points for me today!

Its good today but I think the scoring has become too heavily weighted towards the breakaways. Especially when we get into the mountains if it's 15 points for a sprint, 15 for first over an HC and 10 for cat 1s on some stages you can get two breakaway riders and score more than if you were getting top three at the stage finish!

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
4th July 2012 - 15:17

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I like the fact that breakaways can get you high scores - encourages risk-taking! Hasn't worked for me much this season but I'm persisting with it anyway...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1581 posts]
4th July 2012 - 15:29

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drheaton wrote:
Holy crap, that intermediate was worth 57 points for me today!

Its good today but I think the scoring has become too heavily weighted towards the breakaways. Especially when we get into the mountains if it's 15 points for a sprint, 15 for first over an HC and 10 for cat 1s on some stages you can get two breakaway riders and score more than if you were getting top three at the stage finish!

57? i make it 54 for you, as i make it 50 for me, i have lancaser compared to you having van hummel (3 compared to 7 point)

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3861 posts]
4th July 2012 - 15:31

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Greipel clearly isn't going for Green - thats two days running he hasn't gone for the intermediate. Thinking

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posted by chrisdstripes [1581 posts]
4th July 2012 - 15:31

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
57? i make it 54 for you, as i make it 50 for me, i have lancaser compared to you having van hummel (3 compared to 7 point)

Boo!

I think my issue has always been that I see the stage win as the biggest prize and someone outscoring the stage winner's 35 points for getting first across a sprint, HC and cat 1 seems to undervalue the finish line.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
4th July 2012 - 15:51

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ok so no luck for me!!!!! Cav down and out FFS

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3861 posts]
4th July 2012 - 16:40

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So where was WIggins, disaster for Sky....rubbish

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3861 posts]
4th July 2012 - 16:42

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Wow - that crash worked for me, pretty sure Greipel, Goss, Sagan, Van Hummel and/or Boeckmans were all up there, and don't have Cav...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1581 posts]
4th July 2012 - 16:43

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Again a terrible stage for me

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3861 posts]
4th July 2012 - 16:48

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After taking a 100 point penalty, I'm pretty sure I got a positive score today... Big Grin

posted by Wig_Billy [575 posts]
4th July 2012 - 16:49

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Good work silas chime - into the lead!

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posted by chrisdstripes [1581 posts]
4th July 2012 - 17:39

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I need therapy, now where is the Glenlivet?

posted by thefatcyclist [584 posts]
4th July 2012 - 18:27

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chrisdstripes wrote:
Good work silas chime - into the lead!

Thanks Chris

Even the Cav crash didn't spoil it....he still got 12 in the intermediate plus 2 for 4th in the points comp.

Good day for my sprint DS' today(Impey 18,Cantwell 18,Boeckmans 14).

posted by silas chime [208 posts]
4th July 2012 - 20:18

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
ok so no luck for me!!!!! Cav down and out FFS

Whenever I put Cav in he crashes. I was going to put in Greipel originally. Hut and van Hummel also caught up in it. These sprint stages are high in luck. They killed me in the Giro. At least they all got some intermediate points. I hope I'm luckier tomorrow.

posted by Alan Tullett [1434 posts]
4th July 2012 - 20:21

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All bar oss scored for me today...so oss is out for tv.

J Andrew Hill

Its a marathon, not a snickers

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posted by JAndrewHill [1220 posts]
4th July 2012 - 21:02

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Alan Tullett wrote:
TERatcliffe26 wrote:
ok so no luck for me!!!!! Cav down and out FFS

Whenever I put Cav in he crashes. I was going to put in Greipel originally. Hut and van Hummel also caught up in it. These sprint stages are high in luck. They killed me in the Giro. At least they all got some intermediate points. I hope I'm luckier tomorrow.

you should have told me Wink

to be honest i chose between Cav and Arishiro or greipel and morkov....

debated whether morkov would go in the break and stuck with my original plan knowing arishiro can sprint, so thinking he may figure at the end. overall i think they scored similar between them. and was all going fine till the intermediate sprint. Then Cav and Haedo and Lancaster all up caught in the crash

For tomorrow ive bought in izagirre for simon ready for the mountains at the weekend and veelers for haedo.

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3861 posts]
4th July 2012 - 21:45

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8th July 2012 - 16:47

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