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So folks, any tips for tomorrows stage? I suspect a victory from a "puncheur" with a strong sprint, from a group of non-GC guys - a tough prospect for team picking perhaps?

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drheaton [3318 posts] 4 years ago
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I reckon that the GC guys will be there or thereabouts but won't win, although the stage seems to suit Rodriguez down to the ground, a short steep climb and bonus seconds on offer?

Possibly someone who's dropped out of it a little like Uran or Cunego may go for it but I agree, a Voeckler would do really well here.

I've sketched out my transfers until the end of the race now and really 16 for me is irrelevant and too unpredictable, my 16 team will just be my 17 team less one breakaway guy I'm bringing in specifically for stage 17.

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Raleigh [1667 posts] 4 years ago
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Maybe Rabbotini will go for it again.  4

Or Schleck  19

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veseunr [257 posts] 4 years ago
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Breakaway I reckon ..... Kaisel!?

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chrisdstripes [1731 posts] 4 years ago
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I had Visconti pencilled in until he pulled out - now I've mainly picked a team for Weds and anything that comes tomorrow is a bonus. That said, if the break gets caught then I have 3 or 4 guys that might well be a good bet for the win. All my 5 DS are Italian at the moment, although Txurruka and Pauwels are on the shortlist for Weds...

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drheaton [3318 posts] 4 years ago
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Raleigh wrote:

Maybe Rabbotini will go for it again.  4

Or Schleck  19

I doubt it, Rabottini can't win 16 and there's not enough KoM points on offer to make it worth it if he's got designs on the maglia azzurra.

I would have loved to have seen Schleck on stage 17, he'd have lost minutes on that downhill finish.

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Gkam84 [9088 posts] 4 years ago
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I believe Keukeleire is going to try and get in the break, He tweeted about it  3 Not a bad cheap star

Niemiec will be up the road so Lampre don't have to work again and the same goes for Salerno with Liquigas  26

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JAndrewHill [1207 posts] 4 years ago
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Any chance of Cav joining a break???  26

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Gkam84 [9088 posts] 4 years ago
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JAndrewHill wrote:

Any chance of Cav joining a break???  26

I believe he's trying to become the first rider to win the points jersey and finish last place overall in the GC.....So doubtful.

If he had balls, he'd be out in the break, but he needs his comfort blanket (Bernie Eisel) to help him through a stage. So unless Bernie goes in a break, Cav wont be  19

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Stumps [3354 posts] 4 years ago
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It can be no other than......

Stefano Pirazzi.

He just loves trying his luck  4

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chrisdstripes [1731 posts] 4 years ago
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stumps wrote:

It can be no other than......

Stefano Pirazzi.

He just loves trying his luck  4

He's one of my five Italians so fingers crossed...  3

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Debarrio [78 posts] 4 years ago
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Still waiting for Pauwels, Bakelants and Seeldraayers to make a decent move, but you can bet on some Austrians trying to please to (almost) home crowd.

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Debarrio [78 posts] 4 years ago
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to = the

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Gkam84 [9088 posts] 4 years ago
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OK, Unusual step for me, but i'm going out for a long haul cycle today, so I'll maybe be back to catch the end of the stage

So here is my team for the day with transfers

Replace Benat Intxausti with Sergio Luis Henao - 1 GC + 5 for white
Replace Domenico Pozzovivo with Daniel Schorn - 1 Points
Replace Damiano Caruso with Diego Ulissi + 2 White
Replace Jon Izagirre with Matthias Brandle

So overall + 5 if all the Jersey's stay the same, But i'm playing a break away card today with Schorn and Brandle being Austrian's and Ulissi being 10 minutes down and Lampre won't want to be doing any work, so will aim to get a man in the break  3

Joaquin Rodriguez (KAT)
Jose Humberto Rujano (AND)
Roman Kreuziger (AST)
Sergio Luis Henao (SKY)
Daniel Schorn (APP)
Miguel Angel Rubiano (AND)
Paolo Tiralongo (AST)
Diego Ulissi (LAM)
Matthias Brandle (APP)

Oh yeah and thats only 4/6 of my transfers, so rolling 2 over to have 4 to switch out anyone who messes with my plans for Giro domination today  19 19

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drheaton [3318 posts] 4 years ago
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Out: Rujano & Sella
In: Basso & Rabottini

Rodriguez (10+4)
Basso (8)
Hesjedal (9+3)
Henao (3+5)

Slagter (1)
Pozzovivo (2)
Tiralongo (7)
Rabottini (5)
Golas (4)

So assuming no standings change I should get a guaranteed 61 points. I nearly picked up Amador for his 4 points but he's too expensive just for the sake of 4 points.

My thinking is that the breakaway won't get many points through the day and there's not really much available in KoM or sprint points and I reckon it'll come back together before the end. Hesjedal really suffered on the short steep climbs last week so Rodriguez may look to put more time into his rivals on a stage that should suit him down to the ground. Especially with and downhill finish tomorrow.

If a break does stay away and it's not some random obscure riders I may lose ground today  2

My team for tomorrow will be pretty much the same although I'll probably drop Slagter and Golas for a breakaway climber, possibly Sella or Pirazzi, maybe Txurruka, and a breakaway punt. The problem is that the better breakaway climbers will probably be the ones who'll struggle most on the downhill finish so even if they get out in front they may not stay there. I should have 4 transfers ahead of stage 18 (the sprint) of which I'll use 3 to bring in sprinters and then 3 to take them out. Plan is to have 4 transfers for the TT.

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TERatcliffe26 [4658 posts] 4 years ago
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Here goes with my team, ive set it up with regards tomorrow as much as today, as well as taking a risk, could have gone safe with Basso but didnt

J-Rod
Hesjedal
Haeno
Gadret

Txurruka
Slagter
Pozzovivo
Tiralongo
Keizer

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 4 years ago
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Stumps [3354 posts] 4 years ago
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Made a few changes for today so looking for a good result and see what i get left with for the sprint stage on 18.

Sergio Luis Henao (SKY)
Joaquin Rodriguez (KAT)
Ivan Basso (LIQ)
Ryder Hesjedal (GRM)
Allessandro De Marchi (AND)
Paolo Tiralongo (AST)
Damiano Caruso (LIQ)
Dario Cataldo (OPQ)
Stefano Pirazzi (COG)

Without realising i have 6 italians in my team. Hope one of them brings me some luck.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 4 years ago
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It took until 90km to go but we have a break:

Alessandro De Marchi (Androni Giocattoli-Venezuela
Mathias Frank (BMC Racing Team)
Io Izagirre (Euskaltel-Euskadi)
Lucca Mazzanti (Farnese Vini-Sella Italia)
Lars Ytting Bak (Lotto Belisol)
Nicolas Maes (Omega Pharma-QuickStep)
José Herrada Lopez (Movistar)
Stef Clement (Rabobank)
Matthias Brändle (NetApp)
Manuele Baoro (Saxo Bank)

Looks like I went with the wrong Rabo rider. Looks a strong break and should stick at least until the final climb.

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Stumps [3354 posts] 4 years ago
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Got one of them. If it sticks i cant see past Bak for another stage win.  39

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Wig_Billy [578 posts] 4 years ago
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Go Brandle.  4

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drheaton [3318 posts] 4 years ago
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I hope it doesn't stick, banking on another Rodriguez win today.

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Doaky [68 posts] 4 years ago
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Argh!! Took out Boaro for Pirazzi!!!!  14

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drheaton [3318 posts] 4 years ago
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Looks like the break will take the stage, 10 minute lead with 60km to go. Pity, but hopefully some guaranteed points will keep me in the hunt.

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 4 years ago
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No starter today Stefano Lucatelli (Colnago)

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 4 years ago
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ah brilliant! 3 riders i looked at all in the break  20

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nickobec [246 posts] 4 years ago
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My team

Rodriguez
Basso
Hesjedal
Intxausti
Pozzovivo
Tiralongo
Golas
Pirazzi
Slagter

brought in Slagter for today 8th in Assisi , Pirazzi for today and tomorrow and kept Golas for today, was going to transfer him out for De Marchi for tomorrow

Still happy with Slagter in break, currently virtual Pink Jersey (by over a minute) and 12 minutes with 37km to go, he will keep most of that, outside chance top ten

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 4 years ago
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but as per script no sky riders in there!  13

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drheaton [3318 posts] 4 years ago
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nickobec wrote:

Still happy with Slagter in break, currently virtual Pink Jersey (by over a minute) and 12 minutes with 37km to go, he will keep most of that, outside chance top ten

Um... Slagter's not in there, it's Stef Clement.

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TERatcliffe26 [4658 posts] 4 years ago
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Another rubbish day at the office it seems, just cant get it right. Maybe i will peak in le tour

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Wig_Billy [578 posts] 4 years ago
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You should go 'stage hunting' TER. Plan to have a really good team for the TT or something.

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