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Seeing as we're all still up worrying about the game falling apart I thought I'd ask the big question...

Who's going to go for it tomorrow?

I can't see any of the big GC contenders, Basso, Schleck, Scarponi, Rodriguez, Hesjedal or Kreuziger even attempting to put more than a few seconds into each other with 3 more summit finishes in the next week. Stage 15 should be more fun as it runs into a rest day.

I'm thinking, I'll pick up two of Rujano, Gadret, Hesjedal and Basso and maybe leave Scarponi until later although I could afford Kreuziger and one of the first 4 on my list.

Something else to throw into the mix, apparently it'll to be bloody freezing on the summit tomorrow with risk of snow and Rodriguez is known to dislike the cold, Pozzovivo too (as he's a whippet).

Thoughts?

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Gkam84 [9092 posts] 4 years ago
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Joaquin Rodriguez (KAT)
Mark Cavendish (SKY)
Roberto Ferrari (AND)
Giovanni Visconti (MOV)
Domenico Pozzovivo (COG)
Miguel Angel Rubiano (AND)
Paolo Tiralongo (AST)
Damiano Caruso (LIQ)
Jon Izagirre (EUS)

Was my team from today,

My transfers will be a simple reverse of these

46 May 18, 01:54 Mark Cavendish Ryder Hesjedal
46 May 18, 01:54 Giovanni Visconti Jose Humberto Rujano
46 May 18, 01:54 Roberto Ferrari Sergio Luis Henao

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drheaton [3318 posts] 4 years ago
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I may well pick Hesjedal and Rujano but I'm worried that Hesjdal will just get blown out of the back if they decide to up the pace on the last climb, he didn't look hugely comfortable in some of the earlier much smaller climbs.

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Raleigh [1667 posts] 4 years ago
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Ok.

Poz for the win, got him in.
Scarponi to do well, left him out for a spell.
Basso to fly, gave him a try.
J Rod to suffer, left him in as he's a bluffer.
Because of Schleck's shoulder I've got someone older.

RUJANO'S AMAZING, IT'S HIM I'M PRAISING.

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Raleigh [1667 posts] 4 years ago
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Oh, and I didn't have enough transfers to get rid of Hunter.

So hope he's a Punter.  31

NB. HE CLEARLY WON"T BE  1

My team is sososososososososososososo reem

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drheaton [3318 posts] 4 years ago
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Also, with Rujano and Gadret 3 minutes down needing a lead of maybe 3 minutes on those who can TT will they go big early on or will they wait till next week?

My high risk/high reward strategy is to pick both and hope for fireworks but I think I might just go for one.

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Wig_Billy [578 posts] 4 years ago
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So many climbers, not enough transfers. I think I might just play safe tomorrow and go with some 'obvious' picks.

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technojim [33 posts] 4 years ago
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Got to be Gadret. Suddenly AG2R can't stop winning.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 4 years ago
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Wig_Billy wrote:

So many climbers, not enough transfers. I think I might just play safe tomorrow and go with some 'obvious' picks.

Still not sure what I'm going to do  2

My safe option is bringing in Hesjedal and Kreuziger for guaranteed GC points and hope no-one goes for it this early into the mountains.

My risky option is bringing in Rujano and Gadret hoping that they've both got so much time to make up that they go for it and the GC guys just watch each other letting them win.

I'll probably go for a combination of those, with 7 climbers I'm already set up for the mountains so I can make full transfers each day knowing I won't really have to overhaul my team too much in the next week.

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thefatcyclist [543 posts] 4 years ago
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Raleigh wrote:

Ok.

Poz for the win, got him in.
Scarponi to do well, left him out for a spell.
Basso to fly, gave him a try.
J Rod to suffer, left him in as he's a bluffer.
Because of Schleck's shoulder I've got someone older.

RUJANO'S AMAZING, IT'S HIM I'M PRAISING.

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Dear dear dear dear, your meter is queer,
I've tweaked it some though, you'll see down below.
My mistake yes or no though?, leaving out pozzovivo.
But I have no clue, what they're all gonna do.

Poz for the win, so I've got him in.
Scarponi to do well, so left him out for a spell
Basso to fly, gave him a try.
J Rod to suffer, left him in he's a bluffer.
Because of Schleck's shoulder I've got someone older.
RUJANO'S AMAZING, IT'S HIM THAT I'M PRAISING.

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I'm over the edge I think.

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TERatcliffe26 [4660 posts] 4 years ago
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Well I decided against Gadret, hope i dont regret it. Basically my choice was Hesjedal for Gadret or take out demare. So I took out demare and bought in slagter  39 7

My team

J-Rod
Hesjedal
Ruijano
Haeno

Pozzovivo
Caruso
Cataldo
Huzarski
Slagter

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Stumps [3415 posts] 4 years ago
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Used 20 penalty points for my team - cant win the overall so losing 20 to possibly gain mega more is worth the risk.

Henao
Uran
Basso
J-Rod
Pozzovivo
Demare
Kristoff
Boaro
Bauer

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Stumps [3415 posts] 4 years ago
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Both the sky riders are still quite cheap for the form they are in, and are 2nd and 3rd in young riders so points there as well.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 4 years ago
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Rodriguez
Hesjedal (will be dropped tomorrow I think but hoping for a solid result today)
Rujano
Henao

Pozzovivo
Tiralongo
Caruso
Rubiano
Golas

I think my transfers tonight will be Hesjedal for Basso and maybe Rodriguez for Scarponi, or a DS swap.

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Alan Tullett [1568 posts] 4 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

Also, with Rujano and Gadret 3 minutes down needing a lead of maybe 3 minutes on those who can TT will they go big early on or will they wait till next week?

My high risk/high reward strategy is to pick both and hope for fireworks but I think I might just go for one.

As we have exactly the same DSs we have exactly the same choices.

Gone for Scarponi, (I'm sure he'll do something over the weekend and place high even if the secs difference isn't big, expect him to be top 5 GC by Sunday if his legs are ok as his whole training schedule has been orientated to this one week).
Rujano - bit of a punt - could try and win stage to get some bonus secs and some time back while the GC guys are more cagey. He's not going to win it outright after all and AND have done well so far.
Basso - should put in a solid performance and move up a few places on GC.
Henao - cheap, got 5 points for Cav and is young rider so extra points if he does well. He and Uran will stay close together somewhere in the top 10 on the stage and move up a few places on GC- I hope.

Other options - Kreuzinger but we've already got Tiralongo, who could go for the win to upset things and let Kreuzinger wait.
Gadret - ALM have some wins now so less pressure on him - or this could give him extra confidence, but 2 punts is too much and I've gone for Rujano.
Uran - prob no better than Henao and more expensive.

Purito and Hesjedal, think they will both drop a few places in GC although they'll both be top 10 but prob not top 5 on the stage.

There'll be a few surprises. I've considered De Gendt so I could have Purito and Scarponi with Henao. He might do well today or wait and go for a stage victory in the MM stages next week. Then there's Seeldrayers, Nieve might go for a stage win while the GC guys mark each other.

It's going to be an interesting tactical stage and I think everyone's team is going to be more or less the same with similar points - quite high. It's the MM stages next week that will shake up the Fantasy game with much more chance of unexpected winners.

MM used to be my weakness but now it's more of a strength, so I'm hoping to just not lose too much ground this weekend and be set up for a few interesting transfers next week. Going to need a monster stage win to get up near the top.

Amongst the remaining DSs we haven't got Stetina, who I had at one stage, he could be interesting. Lost some time due to mechanical and could be dangerous. We'll see.

At least Cav finally won for me. When he was boxed in I thought, oh no here we go again, and Goss did well enough to justify keeping him. Even went up the table with a climber heavy team.

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TERatcliffe26 [4660 posts] 4 years ago
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You've pulled a handy little gap on me now Alan, as ive been steadily dropping.

My plan is to see what happens tonight and maybe drop J-Rod and Hesjedal for tomorrow, however tomorrow should suit Pozzovivo/J-Rod I reckon. At least im now in a position where my team is pretty much how I want it making my transfers tactical, rather than needing to switch for sprinters or climbers so I haven't been able to axe climbers i may have wished to.

My only set in stone tactic is to make sure I have 4 transfers going into the last stage

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 4 years ago
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My team for today

J.Rod
Basso
Gasparotto
Intxausti
Golas
Casar
Tiralongo
Rubiano
Santaromito

Not having Kreuziger is my main worry today.

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Gkam84 [9092 posts] 4 years ago
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OK, so i didn't quite stick to what i said above, my team today looks like this

Joaquin Rodriguez (KAT)
Jose Humberto Rujano (AND)
Roman Kreuziger (AST)
Benat Intxausti (MOV)
Domenico Pozzovivo (COG)
Miguel Angel Rubiano (AND)
Paolo Tiralongo (AST)
Damiano Caruso (LIQ)
Jon Izagirre (EUS)

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Wig_Billy [578 posts] 4 years ago
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Kreuziger
Hesjedal
Haedo
Rodriguez
Pozzovivo
Caruso
Rubiano
Golas
Tiralongo

Hoping Hesjedal and JRod can hang in there today.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 4 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:

Not having Kreuziger is my main worry today.

Agreed, that's my worry too, I can see him, with the help of Tiralongo, making a major move this weekend.

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 4 years ago
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Ah brilliant! Kept Goss for 4 defo points and he's flippin pulled out this morning  14 20

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 4 years ago
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Todays break

Nelson Oliveira
Olivier Kaisen
Andrei Amador Bipkazacova
Matteo Montaguti
Nikolas Maes
Jan Barta
Alessandro De Marchi
Pier Paolo De Negri

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Gkam84 [9092 posts] 4 years ago
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livestrongnick wrote:

Ah brilliant! Kept Goss for 4 defo points and he's flippin pulled out this morning  14 20

I did point that out for everyone yesterday, he'd give the sprint a go and then leave the tour  3

The ONLY sprinter who's said he's likely to complete the Giro is Cav, he wants to get the red jersey overall.

Then maybe next year he'll go to the Vuelta and take the points jersey there, making the full set  26

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Alan Tullett [1568 posts] 4 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

You've pulled a handy little gap on me now Alan, as ive been steadily dropping.

My plan is to see what happens tonight and maybe drop J-Rod and Hesjedal for tomorrow, however tomorrow should suit Pozzovivo/J-Rod I reckon. At least im now in a position where my team is pretty much how I want it making my transfers tactical, rather than needing to switch for sprinters or climbers so I haven't been able to axe climbers i may have wished to.

My only set in stone tactic is to make sure I have 4 transfers going into the last stage

It's not much of a gap and you've closed that before  3 3
Been lucky/canny with Rubiano and Golas both scoring good points for me. Most of that gap is Rubiano's win.

Only way I could have Cav and Goss was to drop Purito and bring in Henao for Hesjedal early , which paid off. Didn't seem much point bringing them back in again so went for the big Italian favs to do something today as tomorrow and some of the remaining stages, apart from the last one, still suit Purito who might come back into my team if I think he's still capable of a stage win or two and those bonus secs. His TTing isn't bad after all, although Basso is better and prob. relying on that a bit. If Hesjedal doesn't lose too much time today or next Saturday he's also in with a shout of a podium spot. Kreuzinger is also well-placed as he's a decent TTer. The climbers really need to put some time into the other guys soon. There aren't that many chances.

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Raleigh [1667 posts] 4 years ago
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But he won the Vuelta one in 2012  26

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Alan Tullett [1568 posts] 4 years ago
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The mountains are good practice for Cav for the Tour and they left 18 as a carrot. Goss, to be fair, hasn't recovered from his crash, so better for him he rests up. The Tour battle between them will be interesting as Goss can do well on stages Cav can't, although not this time. It will be tighter than the battle between Cav and Rojas last year. And what's happened to Rojas? Hardly seen him this year.

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 4 years ago
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I'd have thought Sagan would be the biggest thorn in Cav's side at TDF 2012?

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TERatcliffe26 [4660 posts] 4 years ago
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Cav already has the TdF and the the Vuelta, he only needs the Giro to complete the set

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Gkam84 [9092 posts] 4 years ago
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Raleigh wrote:

But he won the Vuelta one in 2012  26

So he did, but not in 2012  39 3

Interesting to here the interview with Pozzovivo's manager today read out online, what does he fear. The cold, the rain and going downhill  19

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Alan Tullett [1568 posts] 4 years ago
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Maybe as well but will he place that high in the flat stages. The points drop off after the first couple across the line. And the MM stages will be a bit more competitive than the TOC, but he will be a factor as well but I see Goss as his main rival with his ability to win some flat stages. Could have won yesterday if he hadn't had the crash as Cav was very poorly positioned.

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Gkam84 [9092 posts] 4 years ago
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So who's your money on today then folks?

I'm thinking Barta is looking good, but will get caught towards the end.

Tiralongo and Kreuziger to drill it on the decent and try with a few others to break Shrek, J-Rod and some of the big guns?

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