GIRO Stage 4

by JAndrewHill   May 8, 2012  

So will Phinney or Cavendish start . . . and will they finish with the rest of their team, or spin along at the back. I reckon Cav will lead the team for the first half and then sit up with Hunt and Flecha to keep company . . . and BMC will do zero without TPs power,

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Ironically, at the same moment, Alex Rasmussen (second overall at 13 seconds) has lost contact with Garmin-Barracuda. Ramunas Navardauskas is now the man who will move into pink if Garmin manage to extend that lead over BMC.

not great news for anyone who, like me, kept Rasmussen.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
9th May 2012 - 15:41

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Phinney through the weeds! Crazy stuff, but will definitely cost BMC some time. Navardauskas in pink??

posted by frankiejay [159 posts]
9th May 2012 - 15:52

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Still get the points for Rasmussen on the stage (not the GC obviously), even though he got dropped, right?

posted by frankiejay [159 posts]
9th May 2012 - 16:02

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frankiejay wrote:
Still get the points for Rasmussen on the stage (not the GC obviously), even though he got dropped, right?

Not 100% sure, you should as it's

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Team Time Trial scoring. 10 points for each participating member of the first place team down to 1 point for each participating member of the 10th placed team

So Rasmussen will get his actual time and drop way down the GC but should get 10pts for the TTT result.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
9th May 2012 - 16:05

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Well that didn't go to plan. Very happy I saved a couple of transfers now.

posted by Wig_Billy [574 posts]
9th May 2012 - 16:07

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Never expected Kristoff to be my main man today! Looking forward to seeing the GC once its all sorted out...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1540 posts]
9th May 2012 - 16:09

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drheaton wrote:

So Rasmussen will get his actual time and drop way down the GC but should get 10pts for the TTT result.

That's how I understand it. Anyway, OK day for me. Farrar and Navardauskas the real winners of the day... and I had one of them, at least.

posted by frankiejay [159 posts]
9th May 2012 - 16:12

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DAMN, Movistar 11th Crying

But i had two Garmin and still have the Pink Big Grin

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posted by Gkam84 [8699 posts]
9th May 2012 - 16:14

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Don't forget, Navardauskas is also leader of the white jersey, so 25 points in all I think, 10 for the stage, 10 for the GC and 5 for young rider.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
9th May 2012 - 16:16

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Garmin
Katusha
Astana
Saxo
Omega Pharma
Greenedge
Liquigas
Radioshack
Sky
BMC

thats your top 10

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posted by Gkam84 [8699 posts]
9th May 2012 - 16:16

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Well that could have gone better...... Crying

posted by darren13366 [52 posts]
9th May 2012 - 16:22

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What on earth happened to Rasmussen? Angry He's supposed to be one of the team's main TTer and practically had his claws on the pink magic... Another day gone wrong. This game is harder than expected! Still good fun, tho.

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posted by Debarrio [78 posts]
9th May 2012 - 16:32

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Glad i took Navardauskas in, He has Pink and White, 2nd in Blue

But other than that, Phinney 5th in pink and red, 2nd in white. So thats some points.

But he's still getting ditched Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [8699 posts]
9th May 2012 - 16:40

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Surprised that sky are so far down, and that Katusha are so far up.

Last night I would have considered trading a very loud baby for a really nice bike.

posted by notfastenough [2962 posts]
9th May 2012 - 16:41

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Pink

1 NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas LTU GRM 10:01:53 0:00
2 FARRAR Tyler USA GRM 10:02:03 0:10
3 HUNTER Robert RSA GRM 10:02:03 0:10
4 HESJEDAL Ryder CAN GRM 10:02:04 0:11
5 PHINNEY Taylor USA BMC 10:02:06 0:13
6 BOARO Manuele ITA SAX 10:02:12 0:19
7 THOMAS Geraint GBR SKY 10:02:14 0:21
8 ROSSELER Sebastien BEL GRM 10:02:18 0:25
9 VANDEVELDE Christian USA GRM 10:02:19 0:26
10 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin ESP KAT 10:02:23 0:30

Interesting to see J Rod up in the top 10 already

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posted by Gkam84 [8699 posts]
9th May 2012 - 16:42

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Dropping like a stone!

Was gonna bring in Kristoff today but decided to wait till tomorrow, bad mistake Sad

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3786 posts]
9th May 2012 - 17:48

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Dropping like a stone!

Was gonna bring in Kristoff today but decided to wait till tomorrow, bad mistake Sad

Even with 3 different scorers from me, we managed to get the same 63 points Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [8699 posts]
9th May 2012 - 18:03

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Katusha was a shock,but I think Saxo was a bigger one....Rasmussen to get dropped by Garmin so early was unbelievable....Going to make the lumpy stuff really interesting now though,with J.Rod gaining a few precious seconds on the other mountain goats......Its certainly been entertaining so far and an injured Phinneys off-road save yesterday was fantastic.... Big Grin

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posted by STEVESPRO 79 [481 posts]
10th May 2012 - 8:16

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I think the one thing I've learned today is that the TTT is not really worth bothering with when planning a stratergy. Top score was 108, dream team was 148 but that includes 7 Garmin riders so that's not even possible. The actual highest possible score was 124 when you apply the rules (two per team).

I thought I'd planned a great team and through bad luck and bad judgement got 78 points, only 30 behind the top score but probably not more than 10 or 20 points ahead of most of those around me.

I'd have been better saving as many transfers as possible and just limiting my losses. oh well, we live and learn.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
10th May 2012 - 8:37

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Agreed drheaton,it was a day to try and save some transfers for the forthcoming stages due to the impending switch from sprints to lumps and just sort of get a tickover score on TTT day....

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posted by STEVESPRO 79 [481 posts]
10th May 2012 - 9:05

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Agreed again - I kept 4 transfers for this morning and am happy with my team now, and still got 64 yesterday so didn't lose too much ground. Still, annoyed about Navardauskas, this is probably the first time he's ridden this season when I haven't had him in my team!

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posted by chrisdstripes [1540 posts]
10th May 2012 - 9:17

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Thats why I only scored 63, as i bought in visconti for ferrari for s6 and had brought in navardauskas for another rider who i cant remember.
Had 4 transfers for today and used 3, so will have 3 for tomorrow of which i know 2 of the transfers im gonna make.

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3786 posts]
10th May 2012 - 9:42

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Anyone know if Meersman is OK? He lost about 5 mins on Monday, but I've no idea why, and he's one of the (admittedly many) guys I was considering for the next few days...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1540 posts]
10th May 2012 - 10:13

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I haven't been paying much attention, and i just transferred him in...ooops!

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3786 posts]
10th May 2012 - 10:46

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He finished with his team yesterday so hopefully he's fine, I've brought him in too...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1540 posts]
10th May 2012 - 10:56

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First time I've tried a purist team in a Grand Tour and more than happy with 2nd place in the Giro Purist table.

Probably won't last though as it's very TT heavy

Pinotti
Thomas
Pozzato
Farrar
Larsson
Kwiatkowski
Phinney
DeMare
Rasmussen

posted by silas chime [207 posts]
10th May 2012 - 11:28

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silas chime wrote:
First time I've tried a purist team in a Grand Tour and more than happy with 2nd place in the Giro Purist table.

Probably won't last though as it's very TT heavy

Pinotti
Thomas
Pozzato
Farrar
Larsson
Kwiatkowski
Phinney
DeMare
Rasmussen

Good luck in the mountains with that team

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3786 posts]
10th May 2012 - 11:32

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I just transferred out Bos for Hunter and my team for Stage 5 will be:

Cavendish
Thomas
Pinotti
Hunter
Phinney
Navardauskas
Balloni
Boaro
Guardini

Probably make 1 transfer tomorrow and that will give me 4 for the change in terrain to stage 7.

posted by ray silvester [1753 posts]
10th May 2012 - 11:50

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Bennati
Cavendish
Thomas
Lastras
Navardauskas
Rasmussen
Clement
Demare
Izagirre

Took in Bennati last night for the sprint and Izagirre for any break he might decide to get into.

Saving transfers to work on my mountains team

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posted by Gkam84 [8699 posts]
10th May 2012 - 12:01

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Cavendish
Goss
Thomas
Haedo
Kristoff
Navardauskas
Lancaster
Demare
Guardini

Sprint heavy but I shouldn't have to make any changes tonight leaving me with 4 transfers for stage 7. I'm hoping stage 6 will be a sprint but might use 1 transfer on a breakaway guy tonight, we'll see.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
10th May 2012 - 12:15

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