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Amstel Gold Race

Well, if the race is anything like last year there may be very (!) few DSs that score in the top 20 (!). Ben Hermans is the only current DS I can see that scored any significant points last year. He came in 7th. Bram Tankink came in 19th and Fabian Wegmann 20th.

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Gkam84 replied to lucas | 12 years ago
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lucas wrote:

It's probably someone who found former Colombia - Selle Italia rider Maurico Henao when they were looking for an Henao...

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news/?id=2003/oct03/oct17news

Hmmm, even then, he was Oscar Mauricio Henao  3

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livestrongnick | 12 years ago
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So a work in progress that is really starting to hurt my brain  102  20

Sergio Luis Henao (SKY)
Samuel Sanchez (EUS)
Joaquin Rodriguez (KAT)
Ryder Hesjedal (GRM)

Bert de Waele (LAN)
Joost Posthuma (RSN)
Gianni Meersman (LOT)
Bram Tankink (RAB)
Xavier Florencio (KAT)

Think this is my 10th team now, but every team i've picked has had Ryder & Bert in it!  39

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londonplayer | 12 years ago
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what do you reckon to oscar freire? or do you think the hills will be too big for him?

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obutterwick replied to londonplayer | 12 years ago
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Never rule him out. He's in decent form and performed well in AGR last year. His 2nd in Brabantse Pilj bodes well, but the big guns are coming back and it's hard to ignore the likes of Gerrans, Rodriguez etc. think it's only a matter if time before Chavanel shows his capabilities this season, too.

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TERatcliffe26 | 12 years ago
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I think he could top 20, but defo wont win, thus think there are better prospects worth more of a risk than freire

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msw | 12 years ago
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Any thoughts on Paolini? He's been cropping up in the top 10-15 recently...

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londonplayer | 12 years ago
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I don't think Paolini is riding this one is he?

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chrisdstripes | 12 years ago
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Agree with obutterwick - I'm happy with my team but Chavanel is the one I'm annoyed to have to leave out, feels like he's due. No idea if he can cope with the steep hills, but he seems really strong...

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Wig_Billy | 12 years ago
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I'm very happy with my star riders, although I am tempted to go with one gamble. The only headache I've got is deciding which cheap domestiques to pick for all three races.  39

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TERatcliffe26 | 12 years ago
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I feel 2 of my star riders are risks, especially compared to what the rest of you will go for. And one of my DS is a risk too.

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keith roberts | 12 years ago
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my whole team will be a risk, as i dont have the background knowledge you guys seem to have! I'm gonna try hard to choose the best guys i can, and it's really informative to look at the forum and see who you are all talking about....I probably wont chooose who you guys do!  39

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obutterwick | 12 years ago
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Stevo Cummings out with a broken wrist. Pity, as Evans tipped him as a bit if a climber this season.

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giff77 | 12 years ago
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running out of back of envelopes and resorting now to a pin and blindfold  20 but currently am running a team of 8 europeans and 1 from another continent, no doubt will change before sunday am

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Stumps | 12 years ago
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Just logged on and found Spilak out plus one of my other ds. Bloody typical had to jig all the ds about but at least i have now managed to get Gerrans in and removed a cheaper star.

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ray silvester | 12 years ago
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I took Spilak out when I saw him unlisted for Fleche-Wallone.....Lofqvist goes in.

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obutterwick replied to Stumps | 12 years ago
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Florencio instead?

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londonplayer | 12 years ago
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Florencio - how do people think he will fare in the hills?

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TERatcliffe26 | 12 years ago
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Again there is potential for florencio, but he could be hit and miss, so ive gone for a german instead

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enrique replied to Stumps | 12 years ago
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stumps wrote:

... found Spilak out plus one of my other ds...

Who's the other DS that's out?...

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frankiejay | 12 years ago
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Curious if you guys like to pick a DS from the top couple teams that are likely to have a winner for the 5 bonus points, or is that chasing after the wind?

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Alan Tullett replied to londonplayer | 12 years ago
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londonplayer wrote:

what do you reckon to oscar freire? or do you think the hills will be too big for him?

He's a definite possibility as he has form in this race (6th last year) but he's not in the next one so he's a one-race star and I already have one star like that and don't want any more as it's too risky.

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drheaton | 12 years ago
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It's hit and miss, I don't tend to bother usually as I have an awful track record at picking winners but its nice to be able to cover teams whose star I haven't picked. For this race I haven't picked Gilbert or Evans from BMC but might cover myself with a cheap BMC DS.

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Alan Tullett replied to frankiejay | 12 years ago
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frankiejay wrote:

Curious if you guys like to pick a DS from the top couple teams that are likely to have a winner for the 5 bonus points, or is that chasing after the wind?

Vandenburgh was a good little earner for me when Boonen was the fav. For these next three races not so obvious who's going to win as Gilbert's off-form. Can be a good idea to put in riders from teams whose stars you don't have as a 'cover bet' or go for team leaders from smaller teams and take a risk. I'm going to do a bit of both.

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Alan Tullett replied to drheaton | 12 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

It's hit and miss, I don't tend to bother usually as I have an awful track record at picking winners but its nice to be able to cover teams whose star I haven't picked. For this race I haven't picked Gilbert or Evans from BMC but might cover myself with a cheap BMC DS.

Which BMC rider do you think is worth a punt? Santambrogio is cheap and has some form but I wouldn't expect him to do much by himself.

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TERatcliffe26 | 12 years ago
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I very rarely put 2 riders in from the same team, so dont play the teammate scoring bonus tactic at all

I have two stars who are not racing in the week, and a DS too, but I have my transfers and team planned based around that

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drheaton replied to Alan Tullett | 12 years ago
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Alan Tullett wrote:

Which BMC rider do you think is worth a punt? Santambrogio is cheap and has some form but I wouldn't expect him to do much by himself.

It depends, I usually only use that tactic when picking a throwaway DS with my last 3 or 4 credits. If Santambrogio is cheap I might get him as 5 points from him may be more likely than a top 15 finish (to get 5 points) from most sub 3 credit DSs. Him, Norhaug or some of the cheap Euskatel, Liquigas or Katusha riders will be very popular this week if Sanchez, Nibali and Rodriguez are in form.

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Stumps replied to enrique | 12 years ago
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enrique wrote:
stumps wrote:

... found Spilak out plus one of my other ds...

Who's the other DS that's out?...

It was Gaetan Bille, he was just there to make up the numbers so no great loss unlike Spilak.

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bubby016 | 12 years ago
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Un español
Un français
An aussie
En dansker
hrvatskom
ein Deutsch
een Nederlander
en norsk
un italiano

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chrisdstripes replied to frankiejay | 12 years ago
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frankiejay wrote:

Curious if you guys like to pick a DS from the top couple teams that are likely to have a winner for the 5 bonus points, or is that chasing after the wind?

When there was a clear favourite (Boonen) and I was choosing between DS's, the fact that one was in OPQ would be an influence, but then in the last two races that one was Terpstra who was a good bet for points anyway. With no big favourite I'm not picking DS's on the strength of who their teammates are. Maybe in the Giro if there are 3 or 4 similar stages consecutive (flat or mountainous) and a clear favourite for them, it might be worth making sure you have a DS from their team. But as a fantasy cycling virgin I'm basically speculating, so may be way off the mark!

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msw | 12 years ago
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