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Well, if the race is anything like last year there may be very (!) few DSs that score in the top 20 (!). Ben Hermans is the only current DS I can see that scored any significant points last year. He came in 7th. Bram Tankink came in 19th and Fabian Wegmann 20th.

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arsene [205 posts] 3 years ago
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I think there are a couple of DSs that are likely to score. I dont wanna call any names but there are some highly considered riders that are capable of finishing high up on hilly terrain.

100th post lol  4

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Raleigh [1665 posts] 3 years ago
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Mehdi Sohrabi is looking good at the moment, especially with his top ten in Flanders last Sunday.

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 3 years ago
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I won't go too far wrong if I can get any 4 from Hermans,DeWaele,J Pineau,M Kreder,Albasini and Lofqvist.

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nickobec [246 posts] 3 years ago
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Look a bit further back, just outside the top 20 or 2010, 2009 or 2008 results. Also look at the results in Spain, with uphill finishes in last couple of weeks. Found 2 DS there.

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 3 years ago
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I have a team selected ready, and id say my DS's are solid, 1 definite outsider

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enrique [2255 posts] 3 years ago
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I guess this the "official" start list, huh?....

http://www.amstelgoldrace.nl/index.php?pageId=33

Dave, is this what you used to populate the game start list?...  1

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JAndrewHill [1206 posts] 3 years ago
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But who is guaranteed, 100% to be competing in all of the next 3 spring classics. We purists need a Tardis. . .
Is Simon Gerrans doing all 3? #agr, #fw, and #lbl

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stumps [3182 posts] 3 years ago
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Quickly sorted a team as i'm away for a few days with no net access so at least i've got a team in.

Re DS: if you do a bit of digging there are quite a few who are in form at the mo (and are really cheap) and have done well in past years it just takes that little bit extra effort to dig them out.

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Provisional teams picked, no idea how my purist team will do, just crossing my fingers hoping I end up with more than 5 riders for Fleche Wallone and L-B-L.

On DSs, I think there's plenty of possible decent finishers, in fact my purist team has a few average priced stars and some expensive DSs that I think will score well. The major decision seems to be whether you want expensive stars like Sanchez, Gilbert and Rodriguez or whether you can live with cheaper stars and then afford some better DSs.

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 3 years ago
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Well ive got a top 30's star, a low 30's star, a low 20's star and another star that i dont think many will go for

As for DS's ive got some wiggle room with them, range from low teens right down to one of the cheaper ones

Should be interesting and could shake up the classics comp

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drheaton [3318 posts] 3 years ago
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Some quick maths for you, getting 1st, 2nd and 3rd gives you 120 points, if you don't get any of the top 3 you need 4-10 and 17th to get 120 points.

Make of that what you will...

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JAndrewHill [1206 posts] 3 years ago
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Well my early seletion includes :-
2 south europeans 35-40
A western european 25-30
An australasian 20-25

A scandanavian under 5
A western european 5-10
A water mammal 5-10
An in-form eastern european 5-10
hmmm someone else . . . .

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 3 years ago
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I'm gonna say 2 of your stars are the same as mine, and your scandanavian is too.

My oher stars both european, I'd say western europe

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JAndrewHill [1206 posts] 3 years ago
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oh, the the other ds is also from the southern hemisphere, and is 5-10. Doing the basque tour helps people see who is in form for the bumps!

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meninblack [23 posts] 3 years ago
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There was no budget problem on Paris - Roubaix, with good cheap star riders (Ballan, Pozzato, Flecha, Boom...) but I think I'll have budget problem on Amstel because every star rider I like is expensive (Gilbert, Sagan, Rodriguez, Sanchez, Evans, Schlecks...). And the DS riders I like, are also expensive (Albasini, Hermans, Gavazzi...), so, a lot of problems are waiting...  4 4

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chrisdstripes [1702 posts] 3 years ago
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I echo everyone's struggles to balance their books - I've ended up going down the road of just getting the 2 stars I really wanted (both 35+) and a good bunch of 5-12pt DS's, leaving me with 2 stars worth less than 20pts to make up the numbers and hope I get lucky (although one of them has had good results in the Ardennes before so you never know...)

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 3 years ago
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Bet you have my less than 20pt star then Chris

Like i said its gonna shake it up abit

I haven't gone the two big stars (guessing most will go for Sammy and J-Rod, but thats not my tactic)

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frankiejay [150 posts] 3 years ago
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Without giving away who is actually on my team, I will post the guys who didn't quite make the cut.

Sergio Henao- Looked good climbing in the Basque country and the 15.3 price tag was so compelling; would have allowed me to keep some seriously high priced DS's

Fabian Wegmann- Top 20 last year and also had his moments in the Basque Country. I think he has a pretty good shot at scoring points, which for any DS is a mighty good thing.

Other than that, I don't give many hints  1

2 riders in the 30s
1 in the 20s
1 under 20
1 DS over 10
2 DS in the 5-10 range
2 DS under 3

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nickobec [246 posts] 3 years ago
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Want to see the results of De Brabantse Pijl - La Flèche Brabançonne before committing to a team.

Current working line up has 4 stars at 105pts and 5 DS at 23pts giving me 12 pts to upgrade with.

But I want to see Ardennes form before picking a expensive star or two, or upgrading a couple of DSs.

Note all DS have had top ten places in uphill finishes at Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco and/or top 20 finishes at Amstel Gold + other good form

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chrisdstripes [1702 posts] 3 years ago
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Well there are at least 2 stars under 20pts that have podium-ed in the Gold Race before, so you can never be sure...  3

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 3 years ago
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JAndrewHill wrote:

Well my early seletion includes :-
2 south europeans 35-40
A western european 25-30
An australasian 20-25

A scandanavian under 5
A western european 5-10
A water mammal 5-10
An in-form eastern european 5-10
hmmm someone else . . . .

Stab at your team from your clues

Rodriguez
was gonna say sanchez but he is 34.4 so will go Nibali
surely you wont have kept Boonen, so could be Chananel, Vanendert or Martin, gonna say its gotta be lower end so im saying Chavanel
Gerrans

Nordhaug
tough one, gotta be cheap, gonna go Moinard
water mammal hmm im gonna go de waele (as he has previous and the only other possible de walle is too expensive for your team)
Spilak
Simon Clarke is the only other southern hemisphere that i think could fit with price and who u are likely to go for, actually im gonna go Hayman

How did i do?

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 3 years ago
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chrisdstripes wrote:

Well there are at least 2 stars under 20pts that have podium-ed in the Gold Race before, so you can never be sure...  3

Well I have neither of them, I have the guy who has been more consistent over that time period  3

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JAndrewHill [1206 posts] 3 years ago
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Not bad . . . you even spotted my deliberate mistake. 88.88%.
You missed my token dutchman . . .

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JAndrewHill [1206 posts] 3 years ago
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or put another way . . .
1 35-40
6 30-35
2 25-30

all within budget !!!  1 1 1

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 3 years ago
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Yeh but your mistake made me lessen the budget you had for your other riders, which means that the one i put for moinard is actually a dutchman. without looking i know westra is 8.4 credits so it could be him.

I need to check your other way now  3

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 3 years ago
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It all fits  3

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TERatcliffe26 [4461 posts] 3 years ago
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mine is

4 30-35
4 25-30
1 20-25

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chrisdstripes [1702 posts] 3 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
chrisdstripes wrote:

Well there are at least 2 stars under 20pts that have podium-ed in the Gold Race before, so you can never be sure...  3

Well I have neither of them, I have the guy who has been more consistent over that time period  3

Aha - gotcha. Top 20 in all 3 Ardennes races last season. And his team have underperformed this season so far so are due a result - could be a good call!

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JAndrewHill [1206 posts] 3 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

mine is

4 30-35
4 25-30
1 20-25

You've not gone for the water mammal then !
I wonder if you've gone for the youthful, in-form south american . . .
I'm guessing you have the same 2 southern europeans as me, and themust have Norwegian DS, so there's a load more DS in their late 20s to guess. . .

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JAndrewHill [1206 posts] 3 years ago
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JAndrewHill wrote:
TERatcliffe26 wrote:

mine is

4 30-35
4 25-30
1 20-25

You've not gone for the water mammal then !
I wonder if you've gone for the youthful, in-form south american . . .
I'm guessing you have the same 2 southern europeans as me, and themust have Norwegian DS, so there's a load more DS in their late 20s to guess. . .

No, strike Sergio, I'm guessing you have an Italian climber who can lead out a young sprinter and a recent winner . . . . but you'll need a cheap star too . . . maybe another tasty Italian with a bit of form

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