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Omloop Het Volk/Nieuwsblad practice for the classics by submitting a team
how about a test of your classic team management skills? for ego, no points involved. Though Dave can test / explain the scoring for 1 day races.
Same rules as usual, 150 points, 4 stars, 5 ds etc.
If I get organised I will do the same for Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne tomorrow (and because it is practise only 6 transfers between races)
So who is in?
here is my team for Omloop Het Volk/Nieuwsblad
Star riders: pick any 4 GC PC KM AR
Philippe Gilbert (BMC)
AR Value: 40.0 Form: 1.6
Lars Boom (RAB)
AR Value: 20.5 Form: 0.0
Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY)
AR Value: 22.0 Form: 13.6
Sylvain Chavanel (OPQ)
AR Value: 25.2 Form: 4.0
Domestiques: pick any 5 DS
Luca Paolini (KAT)
DS Value: 10.5 Form: 2.6
Sebastien Turgot (EUC)
DS Value: 11.7 Form: 0.0
Christopher Sutton (SKY)
DS Value: 2.8 Form: 9.6
Martin Elmiger (ALM)
DS Value: 3.8 Form: 0.0
Tomas Vaitkus (GRE)
DS Value: 11.4 Form: 0.0
If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.
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After 32km breakaway of 7 have lead of over 3 minutes
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the rules are there so that we can be clear what constitutes a break for the purposes of the game. you have to draw the line somewhere. taking your argument to its logical conclusion, if 100 riders were in the front group and 3 were in a group 5 seconds off the back, those 100 riders would all get 'breakaway' points.
it's not: the classics last year scored lower than most stages of the main tours. hence the points increase to keep them on par
Just heard that one of GKAMs picks is not starting today.
Mr Sneeze has come down with a virus.
So I suggest he picks Chris Sutton instead.
Thats the points for Classic's Orli, not stage races
There were points for breakaway's last year aswell
But i do agree with the gaps, its a bit OTT on the points side
Stannard seems pretty excited about it on Twitter
last minute change to my team Boonen & Burghardt in, Boom & Vaitkus out: 149.3
Star riders: pick any 4 GC PC KM AR
Philippe Gilbert (BMC) AR Value: 40.0
Tom Boonen (RAB) AR Value: 27.8
Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY) AR Value: 22.0
Sylvain Chavanel (OPQ) AR Value: 25.2
Domestiques: pick any 5 DS
Luca Paolini (KAT) DS Value: 10.5
Sebastien Turgot (EUC) DS Value: 11.7
Christopher Sutton (SKY) DS Value: 2.8
Martin Elmiger (ALM) DS Value: 3.8
Marcus Burghardt (BMC) DS Value: 5.5
good luck y'all
FYI one day scoring is as follows - note different scores on the line:
Finish line - one day race: Points awarded for the first 20 riders over the line in a one-day race.
The following points will be awarded (1st-20th): 50, 40, 30, 25, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
Last man home: 10 points awarded for the last man home on a tour stage or one-day race
Breakaway bonus: 10 points to any rider in a lead breakaway of less than 10 riders that's more than a minute ahead at half distance
Most combative rider: 10 points awarded to the rider adjuged the most combative by the race commissaires
Team bonus: 5 points to each participating member of the winning rider's team
Ouch! That's a lot of points, Dave! Too many, in my opinion! It's kind of crazy! Can't we go back to something a little less onerous and pack the points a little closer to keep the competition closer and within reach if you mess up a little in your picks? It's painful!
Just wondering, are there sprints in the middle of Classics races? 'Cause if there are, why offer these points?
On the other hand, why more than a minute ahead? 30 seconds is ok... And why would it matter if the break is less than 10 riders? I say give everyone in the front group at the halfway mark 5 points! Yeah, I'm being picky, I just think the game will just explode and the gaps will become tremendous with all these points on offer. I'd rather have a close game than 'uncatchable' leads...
The maths says otherwise
Compare it to the first stage in a stage race
1st 50 = 35 for win + 10 for 1st in GC + 5 for 1st points
2nd 43 = 30 for 2nd + 9 for 2nd in GC + 4 for 2nd in points
3rd 36 = 25 for 3rd + 8 for 3rd in GC + 3 for 3rd in points etc.
Then you have the young riders & KOM comp
So picking the winner of Paris Roubaix or Ronde Van Vlaanderen is worth as much as picking the winner of the first stage of the Tour of Qatar or Tour of Bejing
The 10 pts halfway bonus is in exchange for KOM & Sprint points you get in stage races, and it will only happen some of the time, not every race.
I like the points for the one day races
my team is in:
Tom Boonen (OPQ)
AR Value: 27.8 Form: 11.0
Philippe Gilbert (BMC)
AR Value: 40.0 Form: 1.6
Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY)
AR Value: 22.0 Form: 13.6
Matti Breschel (RAB)
AR Value: 23.4 Form: 0.0
Domestiques: pick any 5 DS
Gert Steegmans (OPQ)
DS Value: 9.6 Form: 1.8
Johan Vansummeren (GRM)
DS Value: 11.8 Form: 1.8
Baden Cooke (GRE)
DS Value: 5.9 Form: 13.0
Aleksandr Kuschynski (KAT)
DS Value: 3.4 Form: 2.6
Marcel Sieberg (LOT)
DS Value: 6.1 Form: 3.0
I wont bother sorting the quotes out, so i'll just reply
The reason I didn't spend 5 mins picking my own team was for two reason's,
1, This race is not in the fantasy game, so i'm not fussed about riders
2, I wanted to make a point, why this game can't be played on forums, like on other sites, I was just waiting for someone to post and team and I would have done the same
Yes its a bit of fun, but ultimately of no consequence to the fantasy game
OK, I'll edit my team to not have copied others and cause offence to those who put in "time and effort" to pick a team
Philippe Gilbert (BMC) AR Value: 40.0
Greg van Avermaet (BMC)PC Value: 24.7
Tom Boonen (OPQ) AR Value: 27.8
Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY) AR Value: 22.0
Johan Vansummeren (GRM) DS Value: 11.8
Christopher Sutton (SKY)DS Value: 2.8
Jos van Emden (RAB) DS Value: 13.8
Martin Elmiger (ALM)DS Value: 3.8
Stijn Vandenbergh (OPQ)DS Value: 2.7
Failing that i'll have
Mr. Tickle 71
Mr. Greedy 71
Mr. Happy 71
Mr. Nosey 71
Mr. Sneeze 71
Mr. Bump 71
Mr. Snow 72
Mr. Messy 72
Mr. Topsy-Turvy 72
The numbers indicate when they were first published, i know it might be slightly against the rules because they all race for the same team "Mr Men"
That'll do me nicely Nigs, thanks
You're welcome, shame you couldn't spare 5 minutes picking your own team but I guess you don't need the practice.
and there is the reason why this game it not played on the forums
Who's playing the game on the forums? This is just a bit of fun for the weekend and an ego boost if my team goes well.
I wanted KBK as well!
we better have schelpergherhjfidhgsdfgis
Your team is now set GKAM so no copying my inspired picks.
Well here goes for 0 :-
Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY)AR Value: 22.0 Form: 13.6
Greg van Avermaet (BMC)PC Value: 24.7 Form: 4.0
Tom Boonen (OPQ)AR Value: 27.8 Form: 11.0
Philippe Gilbert (BMC)AR Value: 40.0 Form: 1.6
Christopher Sutton (SKY)DS Value: 2.8 Form: 9.6
Lars Bak (LOT)DS Value: 15.7 Form: 1.0
Johan Vansummeren (GRM)DS Value: 11.8 Form: 1.8
Stijn Vandenbergh (OPQ)DS Value: 2.7 Form: 1.6
Dirk Bellemakers (LAN)DS Value: 2.5 Form: 0.0
Why can't we include this race, Its one of my favourites, I've been campaigning ever since someone wanted to include the silly races of ToQ and ToO.
I wanted both Omloop Het Volk/Nieuwsblad & Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne
No luck this year, so this is part of my campaign for next year.
Thor Hushovd?
That'll do me nicely Nigs, thanks and there is the reason why this game it not played on the forums
Philippe Gilbert (BMC) AR Value: 40.0
Sebastian Langeveld (GRE) AR Value: 14.7
Tom Boonen (OPQ) AR Value: 27.8
Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY) AR Value: 22.0
Johan Vansummeren (GRM) DS Value: 11.8
Jan Ghyselinck (COF) DS Value: 6.3
Jos van Emden (RAB) DS Value: 13.8
Marcus Burghardt (BMC) DS Value: 5.5
Ramunas Navardauskas (GRM) DS Value: 6.9
Yes, but new rule, 1st posted wins tie breaker
Philippe Gilbert (BMC) AR Value: 40.0
Sebastian Langeveld (GRE) AR Value: 14.7
Tom Boonen (OPQ) AR Value: 27.8
Juan Antonio Flecha (SKY) AR Value: 22.0
Johan Vansummeren (GRM) DS Value: 11.8
Jan Ghyselinck (COF) DS Value: 6.3
Jos van Emden (RAB) DS Value: 13.8
Marcus Burghardt (BMC) DS Value: 5.5
Ramunas Navardauskas (GRM) DS Value: 6.9
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