Upgrades for Trek Madone 3.1...


by _Karlos_ on February 20, 2012 - 18:20

Hi all, I haven't even taken delivery of my new bike yet which is a Trek Madone 3.1 (2012) but already I am planning a few upgrades and would like some recommendations.
I can't afford all the upgrades just yet (or I'd have got a higher specced model!), but I am firstly after a carbon seatpost, carbon handlebars and eventually a nice set of stiff wheels for the odd time trial, sportives, races etc. So in order of intended purchase, recommendations for:

Carbon seatpost
Carbon handlebars
Wheels

Ta.

PS, budget, a bit vague at this point, let's just say sensible rather than 'boutique' Wink

Wheels. Wheels. Wheels.
Nothing will do more to make your bike feel special. It may be a small saving in weight, but will make a massive difference in performance. The Bontragers are decent enough, but worth upgrading IMO...

posted by DanSmernicki [8 posts] 20th February 2012 - 18:29

Hi, I have to agree with Dan,,,, a seatpost may take a little sting out and be a little lighter - so will the bars but performance wise, nowt beats the wheels. Some nice light wheels will make a hell of a lot of difference. Just bought a set of Ksyrium Elites (from a good guy on here) and what a difference - so my Son tells me, I'm still laid up with a smashed ankle.
Just my t'penneth.

Regards

Trikeman. Wink

Grunt, puff, pant and groan goes the old man - but he gets there in the end. ;o)

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posted by trikeman [163 posts] 20th February 2012 - 18:42

Have to go with Dan and trikeman. WHEELS. There's so many out there. But it's the wheels that are the deal. They'll totally up your machine's performance like nothing else. Hoops and a decent set of rubber to go with them Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

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posted by giff77 [473 posts] 20th February 2012 - 18:53

Aye but which wheels, as you say, there's so many!?

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posted by _Karlos_ [23 posts] 20th February 2012 - 18:55

Currenntly using Fulcrum Racing 5's. Have had no problems with them and they cope pretty well on the roads here which are pretty s***e at present. Reasonably light and the hubs are ace. They've also been on a few sportives and stood the test. Using conti GP4000 on them at present. Trikeman's elites are also pretty sound.

You could also push the boat out and get your own built. Big Grin

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posted by giff77 [473 posts] 20th February 2012 - 21:35

Obviously don't get carbon handlebars, because when you crash, you'll rip them up.

How about lighter tubes and tyres, will probably make almost as much difference as getting the new wheels by themselves.

Mavic yksions are good all round tyres, as are standard gator skins.

Saddle upgrade? Fizik concept saddle look sweet and they make cycling so much easier.

The easier it is to cycle, the easier it is to cycle fast.

Brake pad upgrade? Might be an idea.

H-bar tape?

New road shoes?

All worth considering

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posted by Raleigh [415 posts] 20th February 2012 - 22:34

wheels and lose half a stone riding, job done. unless your already a skinnyf--ker! ultegra 6700 wheels on planet x only 199. 1600g michelin feather light tubes 12 quid, schwalbe ultremo zx tyres. amazing combo and very light

posted by russyparkin [183 posts] 20th February 2012 - 22:38

1600g for some tubes?

How much of a skinny F---er are you?

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posted by Raleigh [415 posts] 20th February 2012 - 22:41

Hmm shoes = pedals = speedplays Big Grin also like the idea of a decent saddle. Now that will beat the carbon seatpost. Karlos looks like the general consensus is anything but carbon bars and seatpost mate. Hopefully you not in a dilema now Wink

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posted by giff77 [473 posts] 20th February 2012 - 22:56

Interesting thread, I'm thinking of some wheels as well!

I love the sound of cleats in the morning

posted by notfastenough [488 posts] 20th February 2012 - 23:28

Some helpful comments there thanks.

Good point about the saddle, the bike itself gets great reviews but most people say that the saddle is awful, it didn't even feel that comfy on the short test ride I gave it, so after a a couple of hours I reckon my arse is going to be suffering. Choosing a saddle's not easy either is it!?

Oh and as for carbon handlebars, I've been running them for years on my MTBs, several crashes and they've been fine. Thinking

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posted by _Karlos_ [23 posts] 21st February 2012 - 10:40

It's about now that i normally say "Pro-Lite Bracciano" Big Grin

http://road.cc/content/review/6577-pro-lite-bracciano-wheelset

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posted by dave_atkinson [4767 posts] 21st February 2012 - 10:54

Hmm carbon fibre handlebars. Been playing about with the idea myself. Carbon bars are worth it on mtb with suspension or tryes with a certain amount of give. Also mtb bars are what 600mm to 700mm (+ in some cases) wide now? So the carbon provides a stiffer platform, still not sure about the claims of better control over narrow bars. On a stiff road bike with 400 to 440 wide bars and tyres that have no give. Is there a need for a super stiff platform to hang onto? Fully understand the need for super light stuff on the track.

IME, a carbon post is best if you are using a compact frame and lots of post. Recently changed back to alloy post as the new frame has a small amount of post showing.

As with the others wheels and tyres would be your best start after the saddle. I'm still happy on my Planet X wheels after several years. They are replaced in the winter with a set of Hope hubbed jobbies.

Hope this helps.

posted by Yorkshie Whippet [26 posts] 21st February 2012 - 12:25

Yorkshire whippet eh?, is that you Steve, it's me DK if so.
Devil

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posted by _Karlos_ [23 posts] 21st February 2012 - 13:15

Sh..T been rumbled. LOL

How do fella? Glad to see you are on wheels again. Things looking better!

Wander over to the Fantasy Cycling and see if you are better at it than me.

If you still fancy a carbon post you can borrow mine and try the saddles I've got.

posted by Yorkshie Whippet [26 posts] 21st February 2012 - 14:24

dave_atkinson wrote:
It's about now that i normally say "Pro-Lite Bracciano" Big Grin

'bout time we had a 'Downfall Vs Pro-Lite Braccianos' eh!

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posted by Fringe [973 posts] 21st February 2012 - 14:32

If you're on a budget, try American classic 350 wheels (or 420 if you want aero). About 1400g (1500g for 420s)and stiff enough, bearings superb ... cheap as chips too!!

posted by veseunr [101 posts] 21st February 2012 - 19:20

...or Reynolds 46s ...... same weight, over five times the price!!

posted by veseunr [101 posts] 21st February 2012 - 19:21

dave_atkinson wrote:
It's about now that i normally say "Pro-Lite Bracciano" Big Grin

http://road.cc/content/review/6577-pro-lite-bracciano-wheelset

Ha! I was scrolling down the comments to see if I could be the first to mention those..

You have made me a Bracciano whore, Dave!

Whenever I decide to upgrade my wheels - those will be it!

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posted by seabass89 [166 posts] 22nd February 2012 - 0:19

oo-eee I may have just found my wheel upgrade. My current rear wheel weighs more than a pair of the Braccianos!

I love the sound of cleats in the morning

posted by notfastenough [488 posts] 22nd February 2012 - 16:47

While we're talking about wheels, has anybody ridden any Soul wheels? At the moment I'm at risk of joining the hordes of road.cc'ers riding Pro-Lites.

posted by nellybuck@msn.com [99 posts] 22nd February 2012 - 17:19

No, but apparently they will offer test rides. PM Adam Buckland who posts on the Soul resellers thread.

I love the sound of cleats in the morning

posted by notfastenough [488 posts] 22nd February 2012 - 17:37



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