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please dont shout, or laugh out loud. i just orders one of these!

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im poor and would never be able to afford the real thing. am going to fit 105 groupset,a nd some nice wheels! anyone had an experience with these frames? wish me luck.  39

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 4 years ago
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Chinarello?? Your link just puts me to a wholesale china website, i wouldn't touch those sites in my own experience, you'll get nowt and lose your money, if your going to buy a frame from china, do it through ebay

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TimD [13 posts] 4 years ago
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Hmm.

It's not as glitzy as the Pinarello web site, is it!

If you search for Dogma, you can find lots of the nice, genuine frames listed.

"Full carbob frame+fork+headset Excellet workmanship"

" No worry about the quality of the frames. We only offer the best ones."

What could possibly go wrong?

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 4 years ago
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Further more to my comments

This is worse than the normal china wholesale sites as its lots of different sellers on there, so a Chinese ebay style site

Cancel your payment through you bank as "fraud" right now if i was you

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Cervelo12 [77 posts] 4 years ago
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i hope you have good life insurance

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 4 years ago
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I wouldn't say that Cervelo, some of the frames coming from the far east are quite good.............if they arrive

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Fringe [1047 posts] 4 years ago
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despite the slightly negative comments above if yer willing to take a punt on it then good luck to you. as ive said elsewhere, are these frames any different to the cheaper end carbon frames from the likes of Ribble, Hind, Planet x etc etc?

let us know how you get on.

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arrieredupeleton [574 posts] 4 years ago
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I'll be interested in following how you get on. Keep us posted.

Did you see the Top Gear episode recently which showed the fake minis and Toyotas etc? Seemed to be perfectly serviceble, if lacking a little quality.

The difference between this and Ribble/PX etc is probably the lack of a CE mark. Not forgetting the UCI sticker!

If it doesn't fall apart and it looks good, then more power to your elbow sir. Scrap the Shimano 105 though. Fake Campag EPS Super Record on a Pinarello, surely?

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wheelz [68 posts] 3 years ago
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its been ordered through DHgate, and they dont release my money through paypal until its been deleivered, and checked! im keeping an eye on my money.

im probably just as concerned as all the rest but thought for once ide take a punt! and yes i saw the top gear prog!

14 days til it (hopefully) gets here. i will keep you all posted. now where can i get a fake campag eps super record groupset from?  39

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Fringe [1047 posts] 3 years ago
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arrieredupeleton wrote:

The difference between this and Ribble/PX etc is probably the lack of a CE mark.

yeah didnt think of that one, also if it does fail on you its far easier to contact PX etc etc (and get a replacement).

mind you think i'm just gonna carry on saving the pennies for something else..(handmade and 953 i suspect, mmmm. nice.)

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 3 years ago
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I think it will be a while before you can get a fake EPS system, but there are plenty of other fake parts out there

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Tony Farrelly [2856 posts] 3 years ago
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Post us some pics when you get it we'd be really interested to have a look

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wheelz [68 posts] 3 years ago
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been window shopping on the net, and come to realise that ultegra goes for about the same price as 105 gear?

im newish to road stuff, as been racing xc for a few years, and decided to do some serious road miles around W Sussex.been using my trusty 2010 trek 1.5, but its dirty, and i need to upgrade............
what sort of wheelset can i get for around £350? hopefully they be lightish too?

as soon as the frame turns up i will post some pictures, and comments.

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robcrow [53 posts] 3 years ago
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you would get a much better frame on ebay or ribble for the same money.Just stay away from Pinarello as they are faked so much,the quality of these frames tend to be very poor.Usally around the bottom bracket area.You can often pick up a secondhand scott cr1 or giant tcr for around the same price and you know that way you are going to get a frame that performs well.With a real dogma your paying for high modules carbon( 60HMM1K carbon by Torayca with nanoalloy )and a wind tunnel tested frame.just copying the shape from a photo in a lower grade material dont cut it.Trying to copy the asymetrics of this frame make it a much more difficult job and tends to give them an inferior result then a conventionally shaped frame.Hope you get lucky and get a good copy.let us know.

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Raleigh [1665 posts] 3 years ago
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Bruv, if you're prepared, go for it.

It'll probably be fine.

They're all made in the same place anyway, no matter what anyone says.  19

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wheelz [68 posts] 3 years ago
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i can understand some of the negativety, but someone has got to be the one of the 1st! the frame pictured, and frame giometry is all i and a few mates had to go by, and a couple of comments from our american cousins, and they all seemed positive! as for ebay, after some detective work it seems its the same company making all the frames.
i will find out good or bad soon enough. if it all goes tits up, at least i can inform everyone on here, and STW to keep clear. the saving grace is, DHgate dont release my money from paypal until ive opened the package and am happy with what ive got, and have contacted their site to do so.......! im hopeful that that will be my saviour.
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OldnSlo [133 posts] 3 years ago
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i've used parts from the guys at flyxii.com. my experience was
good.

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notfastenough [3661 posts] 3 years ago
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So, on another thread Dave Atkinson was flirting Pro-Lite Bracciano's at us all  4 which got me (and probably the OP) drooling. However, in a shootout with the Fulcrum Racing 3's linked to by Mikeh789 above, does anyone have any opinions on a winner?

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wheelz [68 posts] 3 years ago
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hes sent me pictures of my frame! how do i load them?  39

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wheelz [68 posts] 3 years ago
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oh well

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wheelz [68 posts] 3 years ago
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hope full it will end up looking pretty good.

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Raleigh [1665 posts] 3 years ago
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Certainly looks a bit like a Pinarello  4

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Raleigh [1665 posts] 3 years ago
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How much are you going to spend on it?

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veseunr [256 posts] 3 years ago
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I've got a nearly new 175mm 105 crankset 53/39 with BB for sale .... probably better than putting a new one on!!

Are Pinarello's Italian thread? How about Chinarello's?!

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wheelz [68 posts] 3 years ago
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Veseunr

its got an en bb 68!

probably try to keep the spending around the £800 mark, then its total price will be £1250. trying to keep it a bit sensible.  44
but who knows!!

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notfastenough [3661 posts] 3 years ago
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Blimey. Comparing to the official shots on http://www.pinarello.com/eng/dogma2_carbon_616.php (click 'other colours, then 616 POS Blu' to see the colour scheme), I can see that the downtube cable looks like being externally routed on wheelz' frame, the 'Pina' graphic on the front of the seat tube is a different colour, but honestly, if your LBS was stocking these, at a favourable price, you think they wouldn't be snapped up?!

The UCI sticker also looks different/omitted, but I just found some identical (in terms of the above discrepancies) to Wheelz' frame on a Chinese site, and the UCI-approved sticker is indeed present.

Especially now that cycling is gaining so much in popularity, watch out for 'complete new Pinarello Dogma 2 - unridden - just £2000' on eBay.

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 3 years ago
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They are all over Ebay already, thats why i would never touch a top end bike second hand through there

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notfastenough [3661 posts] 3 years ago
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oh, righto!

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veseunr [256 posts] 3 years ago
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I heard that Bradley got a bad one off eBay around last July and the rest is history!!  44 19 20

Got a better one for the Vuelta though!!  4

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wheelz [68 posts] 3 years ago
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lets hope Cavs Pino`s ok for tomorrow....  4

mines been shipped, and im tracking it.

still unsure on what wheels to get? only  14 £350 to spend on wheels....

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