Tour of Oman


by veseunr on February 10, 2012 - 11:35

The same 16 teams have been invited to Tour of Oman as participated in Tour of Qatar.

Expect quite a few team changes though; there is the odd hill in Oman and despite 4 sprint stages, there will be the odd hardman stage. Boasson Hagen back in for Sky and punchier climbers like Rodriguez and Gilbert might be more obvious.

I don't think the out and out sprinters will stand a chance of the overall so transfers are going to be important.

Thoughts comrades?

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posted by JAndrewHill [572 posts] 10th February 2012 - 12:25

With the classics on the horizon it's going to be the likes of Gilbert, Flecha and EBH who are going to try out their legs on the climbs but when it comes to hills you never know Thinking

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posted by stumps [512 posts] 10th February 2012 - 15:41

Doh !

according to Team Sky website Flecha and EBH not racing ?

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posted by stumps [512 posts] 10th February 2012 - 15:52

they not racing

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posted by arsene [114 posts] 10th February 2012 - 16:11

Neither is Gilbert - claims it's too warm

posted by allezrider [7 posts] 10th February 2012 - 16:23

Sky only have a couple of changes, Sutton and Hunt in and Barry will be out, So Rowe, Dowsett or Puccio are the reserves

Full list here http://www.letour.fr/2012/TOO/RIDERS/us/engages.html

No EBH, Flecha or Gilbert

BUT there will be Kittel, Sagan and Millar for your climbing and Cav, Farrar, Galimzyanov and Greipel for your sprints with a few other names i'll keep to myself Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [3281 posts] 10th February 2012 - 17:00

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posted by obutterwick [151 posts] 10th February 2012 - 17:17

Griepel over his illness i take it ?

Whats wrong with Euskatel ? i thought the hot weather would have suited their riders.

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posted by stumps [512 posts] 10th February 2012 - 17:22

I think its invite only?? Astana, Euskaltel, Ag2r, Vacansoleil, Movistar, Saxo Bank and Lampre all missing, so some decent riders in those teams

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posted by Gkam84 [3281 posts] 10th February 2012 - 17:26

Invites ... same as Qatar; same teams.

Some more names competing: Vandevelde, Rasmussen for Garmin. Goss back in for GRE but rubbish in TDU. Joaquin is in for Katusha ... love that!

Nibali, Greipel back, Ten Dam for Rabobank, Fuglsang and Sutton.

Wow! Excited already. Going for better than my 200th place in Qatar!! Crap for a previous prize winner (at least I was infront of the wife)

Teams by Tuesday

posted by veseunr [101 posts] 10th February 2012 - 18:21

Mmmmm, this is going to take some deep thinking as there a lot of good riders. Rodriguez is a must in my opinion but after that who knows. Thinking

The first 3 days are flat by the looks of it with day 4 and 5 having the hills to contend with.

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posted by stumps [512 posts] 10th February 2012 - 19:15

Just spotted a TdF winner in there ... although he did win it last week Thinking

.... Andy Schleck.

Stage 1 and 2 have the same profile on official website ... someone cocked up. Stage 2 is actually a bit of a tough finish.

posted by veseunr [101 posts] 10th February 2012 - 20:36

stage 5 is a proper mountaintop summit finish too, 1,265m

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posted by dave_atkinson [4767 posts] 10th February 2012 - 20:39

provisional start list is up...

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posted by dave_atkinson [4767 posts] 10th February 2012 - 22:13

Thanks Dave
For a while I thought there were 900 riders Cool

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posted by fluffchucker [236 posts] 10th February 2012 - 22:35

I know it may be warmer there, but from bit I've seen on Eurosport it's not exactly exciting racing.

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posted by brockhurst5 [7 posts] 10th February 2012 - 22:59

Stage 4 is nothing terrible, a little bumpy, good for breaks maybe; but 5 should be good. Couple of Ks of 13.5% at the end. Going to be interesting to decide when to bring the climbers in.

posted by Alan Tullett [454 posts] 10th February 2012 - 23:51

Why can you only quote certain peoples posts?

Anyway....

Dave " provisional start list is up..."

Glad to see you have torn yourself away from The Big Shimano show - when do us monkeys get to find out out the future?

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posted by charliemac74 [108 posts] 11th February 2012 - 1:57

brockhurst5 wrote:
I know it may be warmer there, but from bit I've seen on Eurosport it's not exactly exciting racing.

Oman is completely different from Qatar if your thinking its the same. Oman actually has some decent hills and the mountain top finish looks a belter.

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posted by stumps [512 posts] 11th February 2012 - 8:32

charliemac74 wrote:
Why can you only quote certain peoples posts?

Anyway....

Dave " provisional start list is up..."

Glad to see you have torn yourself away from The Big Shimano show - when do us monkeys get to find out out the future?

not sure about the quoting, i'll check the cogs.

March 1 and June 1 for Shimano news. Both very interesting.

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posted by dave_atkinson [4767 posts] 11th February 2012 - 9:33

Why have Eurosport got Stage 1 "live" on Wednesday when it starts on Tuesday. No prologue? Confused?

posted by veseunr [101 posts] 11th February 2012 - 10:05

Well last week eurosport had listed highlights from stage 5 of the ToQ on the same day eurosport 2 had listed live coverage of stage 1 (this being the day of stage 1)

posted by TERatcliffe26 [1173 posts] 11th February 2012 - 12:19

The big question is to go with Cav or not to go with Cav.....I feel i will end up with egg on my face whichever way i go

basically i have a team with Cav and a team without Cav that causes 3 changes in my team overall

posted by TERatcliffe26 [1173 posts] 11th February 2012 - 12:35

Rather have egg on my face than road rash all over my back! Poor Mr Cav.

Greipel v Cav on the sprints with a few other thrown in could be excellent!! It will be fun watching then up Stage 5 too. Big Grin

posted by veseunr [101 posts] 11th February 2012 - 12:41

Might drop Cav and Gripes for stage 5 Nerd Nerd Nerd
Bring in some guys with decent sprintability

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posted by JAndrewHill [572 posts] 11th February 2012 - 13:05

Sohrabi is a must again . . . its his 'home' tour after all.
and he is cheap so I can afford to buy a decent climber like nibali

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posted by JAndrewHill [572 posts] 11th February 2012 - 13:06

JAndrewHill wrote:
Sohrabi is a must again . . . its his 'home' tour after all.
and he is cheap so I can afford to buy a decent climber like nibali

Thought he was from Iran ?

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posted by stumps [512 posts] 11th February 2012 - 20:48

Gkam84 wrote:
Sky only have a couple of changes, Sutton and Hunt in and Barry will be out, So Rowe, Dowsett or Puccio are the reserves

Full list here http://www.letour.fr/2012/TOO/RIDERS/us/engages.html

No EBH, Flecha or Gilbert

BUT there will be Kittel, Sagan and Millar for your climbing and Cav, Farrar, Galimzyanov and Greipel for your sprints with a few other names i'll keep to myself Devil

Kittel for climbing, does your disinformation run that deep Big Grin

posted by thefatcyclist [442 posts] 12th February 2012 - 0:21

stumps wrote:
JAndrewHill wrote:
Sohrabi is a must again . . . its his 'home' tour after all.
and he is cheap so I can afford to buy a decent climber like nibali

Thought he was from Iran ?

I am not aware of a tour d'Iran so I put 'home' in quotes, cos I thought Oman was probably the hearest place to Iran. . . . and it's only 2 letters different. Smile Smile

Now if Ali Al Habsi could ride a bike, I would definitely pick him for the Tour d'Oman

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posted by JAndrewHill [572 posts] 12th February 2012 - 0:26

JAndrewHill wrote:
stumps wrote:
JAndrewHill wrote:
Sohrabi is a must again . . . its his 'home' tour after all.
and he is cheap so I can afford to buy a decent climber like nibali

Thought he was from Iran ?

I am not aware of a tour d'Iran so I put 'home' in quotes, cos I thought Oman was probably the hearest place to Iran. . . . and it's only 2 letters different. Smile Smile

Now if Ali Al Habsi could ride a bike, I would definitely pick him for the Tour d'Oman

Aye point taken. The way Iran is at the mo half the UK and USA competitors would get locked up for spying. Big Grin

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posted by stumps [512 posts] 12th February 2012 - 10:04

I forgot, how many transfers can you roll over?

posted by bubby016 [93 posts] 12th February 2012 - 15:30

You get unlimited until first stage then two per day after that.

posted by veseunr [101 posts] 12th February 2012 - 16:24

You can roll over 2, so if after the first stage, you make no transfers, you will have 4 the next day, if you use only 2, you will still have 2 rolling over, but the most you will ever have is 4

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posted by Gkam84 [3281 posts] 12th February 2012 - 16:56

Gkam84 wrote:
You can roll over 2, so if after the first stage, you make no transfers, you will have 4 the next day, if you use only 2, you will still have 2 rolling over, but the most you will ever have is 4

unless there's more than two available, like in the classics or on a rest day of the tour. basically two rollovers max, plus however many free transfers are allowed on the stage

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posted by dave_atkinson [4767 posts] 12th February 2012 - 17:18

So on rest days we could have upto 6?

I was just pointing out what it would be for the tour of Oman

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posted by Gkam84 [3281 posts] 12th February 2012 - 20:45

I must leave enough dosh in the bank to be able to bring Cav in for Fridays stage. Looking at the sky photos on Facebook, he seems to have his climbing legs on, leading his team up the training climbs.
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posted by JAndrewHill [572 posts] 12th February 2012 - 22:56

...there again, Jon Tiernan Locke is looking like he knows how to go uphill.
http://www.cyclingfever.com/stage.html?etappe_idd=MjcwNzA=&_ap=video
Might pick him for the uphill stages in Oman.
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posted by JAndrewHill [572 posts] 12th February 2012 - 23:05

JAndrewHill wrote:
I must leave enough dosh in the bank to be able to bring Cav in for Fridays stage. Looking at the sky photos on Facebook, he seems to have his climbing legs on, leading his team up the training climbs.
Liar Liar

Truths in the climbing legs aside, I'm more worried that given his injuries he'll be more "miss" than "missile"

posted by cherrypicked [32 posts] 13th February 2012 - 7:56

It seeems that the first stage is a uphill finish, light and easy but uphill, isn't it? maybe Goss time??? I've many doubts with my team, expecially with the stars...

posted by rjl [16 posts] 13th February 2012 - 10:56

It goes up 80 metres over the last 30kms so not really much of a rise and i think the last 5 is completely flat.

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posted by stumps [512 posts] 13th February 2012 - 11:41

So sprinters at the start then make no transfers for stage 3 so you can use 4 transfers to get the climbers in for stage 4 and another 2 to beef it up with punchy domestiques for stage 5?

posted by ray silvester [57 posts] 13th February 2012 - 11:56

You say that, but Stage 4 has been deemed "flat". Have a look at the profile .... if I was cycling it, I wouldn't call it flat!! Thinking

Who is good on stages like this? Hushovd, Goss, Tiernan, Schlek?!

posted by veseunr [101 posts] 13th February 2012 - 13:08

veseunr wrote:
You say that, but Stage 4 has been deemed "flat". Have a look at the profile .... if I was cycling it, I wouldn't call it flat!! Thinking

Who is good on stages like this? Hushovd, Goss, Tiernan, Schlek?!

The first 50k is virtually downhill the whole way - if it was me i would go full belt to pick up speed to see how far i could free wheel up the hill before getting off and pushing Laughing

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posted by stumps [512 posts] 13th February 2012 - 14:10

When did endura get an invite to the tour of oman ??

posted by martyntr [81 posts] 13th February 2012 - 16:42

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When did endura get an invite to the tour of oman ??

Take anything you read in Fantasy Cycling threads with a sack of salt. Lots of smoke and mirrors being deployed Wink

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posted by Simon_MacMichael [4395 posts] 13th February 2012 - 17:45

Normally the smoke appears in the hall of mirrors Wink

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posted by Gkam84 [3281 posts] 13th February 2012 - 18:24

With about 12 hours to go the pressure is on to pick your team, unless of course your really switched on and have settled your team already.

I have been trying different line ups with an eye on stage 4 and 5 and in doing so have money spare.

I've gone for:

Cav
Boonen
Griepel
Galimzyanov

Hayman
Steegmans
Guardini
Sohrabi
Kruopis

But i will probably change it again Thinking

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posted by stumps [512 posts] 13th February 2012 - 21:26

stumps wrote:

I've gone for:

Cav
Boonen
Griepel
Galimzyanov

Hayman
Steegmans
Guardini
Sohrabi
Kruopis


Same except for three men Surprise Plain Face Also might change my team to fit in one certain star rider Wink Wink Wink

posted by bubby016 [93 posts] 13th February 2012 - 22:15

I also have three men different, 1 star and 2 DS, but still formatting my time

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posted by Gkam84 [3281 posts] 13th February 2012 - 22:48

Gkam84 wrote:
I also have three men different, 1 star and 2 DS, but still formatting my time

Same here Surprise

posted by bubby016 [93 posts] 13th February 2012 - 22:50

I'm going for:-

Three legged man
German
Eastern European
And again
And again
And again
Another German
Australasian
And an Asian

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posted by JAndrewHill [572 posts] 13th February 2012 - 23:10

GER
GBR
RUS
GER
Lithuania (whats the shortened?)
GER
BEL
AUS
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posted by Gkam84 [3281 posts] 13th February 2012 - 23:29

So GKAM likes Wagner and Kuschynski Devil

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posted by JAndrewHill [572 posts] 13th February 2012 - 23:53

Decided to stick with that team and i need 5 transfers for stage 4 Crying

Fingers crossed they all do well and i dont have to mess about changing them.

Problem comes though on stage 6, which is flat, do you take out a possible race winner / runner up to put back in the likes of Cav or Griepel which might gain you a few extra points Thinking Thinking Thinking

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posted by stumps [512 posts] 14th February 2012 - 0:02

@ stumps - problem is that we all did that in qatar and cav collected more grit than points for us all. Same dilemma for me hoping my team will be consistent and will not have to make many changes. Have also managed to have some spare credit just in case.

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posted by giff77 [473 posts] 14th February 2012 - 1:02

Gkam84 wrote:
GER
GBR
RUS
GER
Lithuania (whats the shortened?)
GER
BEL
AUS
جمهوری اسلامی ایران

So, same team (Most likely) except for Sohrabi Devil

posted by bubby016 [93 posts] 14th February 2012 - 2:46

Ignore, double post

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