Fantasy Cycling wish list

Can we change the rules / points scoring system please...

Do away with the forum! Then people who don't want to spend time researching can't get a free piggyback to a high score simply by asking who's likely to win!

OK a bit harsh... read as sarcasm! I'm just P'd off at my poor start!

Dont worry matey just point them all in the direction of Gkam he will keep them right with their decisions, just like last year.

Aye i'll sort out the people who are playing for the sake of winning over the people who enjoy cycling

When the bigger races start, you'll see my daily recommendations and riders to watch out for

Still waiting for the nationalities and home towns of all the riders hangers on...

If Dave is reading this, PLEASE could you

Instead of showing me a HUGE list of leagues that i could join, but i don't have an interest in joining, Could you hide that away and give us back the list of region's, where we can compare our region with another by average score's, much more interesting this year as my region only has 17 players

i'm not reading it, sadly

Already mentioned in another post, but:

I also like the arrows, up or down, indicating whether you went up or down in the standings... Could you add a number? For example, 21+ or something that indicates number of spots jumped?

Could you also tag on an free transfer to the team that lost the most positions in a day? And take away one from the current leader?

+1

Currently I can see transfers made for the upcoming stage of other people, surely these should only be visible after transfers are locked to prevent other people in my mini league from knowing the changes I have made?

oops

fixed now. i think

Thanks

you went up one place?

that's running now. there's quite a big number next to your arrow, i see. mister stage winner.

bad day for the instigator though. actually that's really interesting. thanks for suggesting...

Could we have an option to make transfers in advance.

For example i would enter what transfers i want for Sunday's stage today and then the system would automatically make those transfers (providing i have enough credits) on Saturday.

This would help make it fairer for people who are not able to log on every single day.

Pretty cool. Now, not to be ungrateful, but could you move the numbers to either side? I'm running IE 8 and the numbers appear practically right on top of the arrows.

Are you "the instigator'?...

Number of positions jumped?...

How about a free transfer to the last 10 positions in the current competition?

probably a css caching issue, they seem fine here. try emptying your cache.

I see that now it's not possible to see the transfers made by other people for the upcoming stage and I agree with that, but is it possible to see these transfers when the stage has started instead of after the end of the stage (like the last year? So it's much more interesting to follow the stage...

I don't know how practical this would be:

1. When you search for riders can you add a button that would list only (!) those riders that are below my current balance and (!) are available due to the other restrictions - team restrictions and star rider and domestique restrictions? It would save some time searching... Call me lazy!

I'm pretty sure when your searching for transfers you can put in the "search values below" or when you bring up the riders for the next stage it shows "add" if you can afford them. If not then you cant add them to your team.

Hopefully this is one of the more simple requests - A latest stage score column to be added to all leagues between total score and positions changed.

I'm aware you can access this by clicking into the overall score for a total breakdown, but this would be really interesting to see at first-glance.

Cheers!

What about an icon whith who is holding what jersey either on the rider list or their info window?

Thats just watering down the game and making it far to easy

As it is, i'm hating the Dream team and In form markers

Quite agree Gkam84!!!

Look at the TDU site if you want to know all that info. I've got a set of about 6/7 tabs with quick access to different sections of that site and a few others.

The fun of it is doing the research, (although I still want those wheels). I especially like doing it in French and Spanish.

A more relevant point to the actual forum though is;

can we know the total amount of points different riders have scored for our team up to that point?

It's not really that important but would be fun to know. I'm sure Boassen Hagen is top of my team but who is 2nd or 3rd. Without some tedious calculating I don't know.

Maybe the rider who gets the most points in the Fantasy league overall could win the roadcc TDU Fantasy shirt prize. Perhaps Dave could give it to him in person!

you've always been able to sort the riders by form, so nothing much has really changed. it's just a bit more accessible. one of the main reasons for the redesign was to make the game easier to play. and form wasn't much help picking valverde

I know you've always been able to sort it by form, but having an all be it small F beside there name makes it easier to spot, Its not really a factor towards the start of a race but as we get into the final week of a grand tour, people who don't research will just pick the guys who have a D and F beside there name, knowing they will get some safe points

Because as a grand tour goes on, the "form" riders are going to be those highest up in the GC, Points and Mountains, because in this game they are scoring points every day

I think the form indicators are of less value given the increased points available for stage finishes this time round. Yes you can grow safe points just using them but that will never replace good planning, knowledge of riders and taking a punt on the stage results.

Additionally it makes it more accessible to new or less experienced players, and in my book anything that gets people more involved with the sport is a good thing (as well as increasing traffic, dwell time and site loyalty!).

I really do not see how a 'current' leaders jersey takes away from research. As we all know somebody could have 'form' yet totally stuff up on a stage, get caught behind a crash. Having a gentle reminder on who is wearing what jersey is helpful. I work earlies and am in my bed 8pm. I do not have time to go trawling the internet to see if cav is wearing yellow going into the mountains on le tour. To call up the rider profile and see that a rider is still holding the leaders/point/kom or whatever jersey would be useful. It does not necessarily mean that I am choosing a rider soley based on what jersey he is wearing..

It doesn't take that much to bookmark a few of the key pages on the official tour site; results, stage profiles etc, put them in a folder and open with one click. That gives you quick access to all the key info. Quicker than using the info on the fantasy site.

After that you'll need to do some research if you want to be even in the top 50, let alone win.

Oh. I should have also mentioned. My only main internet access is via my phone (90%). So internet access is not brilliant especially as many sites do not have mobile versions. So all and all pretty much shafted. Thanks guys guess I'll be retiring then or just stay bottom of the pile. A bit of a fizzy I know but some of us do not have the luxury of broadband, time etc...

Is there or not any prize for the overall classification of the year? I think it'd be the most important classification but I don't know if this year are only competitions for each race or there is also a competition for a whole of the year.

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A wish list would be useful, like they have in the official fantasy premier league game, so you can add riders you want to keep an eye on, not sure how easy it would be to implement though?

Thanks.

you're hardly bottom of the pile. you're top half, after all

if you're playing any kind of game like this then putting in the time to find out who's doing what is always going to benefit you in the long run. if you don't have the time/means to do that as much as the next player then you'll be at a disadvantage whether the jerseys are shown on the fantasy game or not.

not saying it's not a worthwhile idea, just that it won't result in a level playing field.

the overall prize is bragging rights and a lovely trophy.

and no, it's not the most important classification, because only a small minority of people will ever be in contention; anyone who joins now is already 1,000 points behind

yeah, it's something we've considered. not quite sure how it would wok but it's something we'll probably add for next year rather than this year

cool, I wouldn't say it's essential, just a nice little extra.

Is there still a consistency prize?

Or has it been renamed?

I see that now it's not possible to see the transfers made by other people for the upcoming stage and I agree with that, but is it possible to see these transfers when the stage has started instead of after the end of the stage (like the last year? So it's much more interesting to follow the stage... in that case, we know which riders want to do it right, which one not (if this rider is in our adversary's team). I think it's much more interesting to follow the knowing the composition of all fantasy teams.

Thanks Daave. Probably aint that bad in retrospect!! Just finished a tough week and was feeling sorry for myself and the lack of time to research riders and stages - hence the strop. Apologies to gkam and alan also and hey, I'm in the top half of the league so must be doing something right...

no, there isn't a consistency prize. it's been replaced with a high score league, for the highest individual stage scores.

I'm not sure if this belongs in this thread, but, since this thread seems more active, thought I'd ask here....

I like this idea!

Not to repeat myself, but, what about another column that says 'points behind' the overall current leader?...

How would another column work, if you're in say 4 leagues?
For points behind, I would just look under `User~Automatic Leagues' & pick League name to see where you are

I think I've mentioned this before, or someone had suggested it before, but, I was wondering if you could add a column to the Stage scores pages. Right now they show your score that particular day for the stage run that day.

I was wondering if you could add a column that let you know your standing in the overall competition that day. For example I might have scored 106 points in yesterday's stage and, if we had it, the column next to it would tell me I was 46th in the overall competition that day.

Thanks!

I'm too lazy to check if this has been asked for already but could we have a total number of participants in each league at the top of the page so I know just how mediocre my standing is? There are so many tied positions that just knowing I'm in 99,999th place doesn't tell me how bad that is.

This might end up being very longwinded for someone to sort but i think the credit ratings of some riders are a bit out between ds and specialist riders. Already mentioned i know.

for instance you have Sandy Casar (a ds) who is more expensive than some sprinters or km's.

perhaps a screen created towards the end of the season for people to put their opinions on riders value on might be helpfull for the powers that be to value the riders for next year.

Such as Ben Swift - classed as a sprinter but is much more expensive than the likes of Guardini or Kristoff who are both v good sprinters.

My request is to be able to view all riders in a particular team and their cost/stats at the same time.

This keeps coming up and the problem is that for some races the likes of Swift and Appolonio will be the lead sprinter for Sky and will be worth 20-25 credits each whereas Casar will always be what he is, a breakaway specialist DS.

It's impossible to plan the rider values out from the start to fit every race, or even every stage of every race, if Swift had ridden the Giro he may have been the preferred sprinter on SKY for 1 or 2 stages and with an excellent lead out 18.4 credits would have been a steal. Likewise Basso who was in poor form is cheap at 28 and Gilbert who's been crap is expensive at 40, there's no way to predict how each rider will do or what role they'll play throughout the season at the start of January.

The key to the game has always been finding value, especially with DSs, and having had breakout seasons the likes of Guardini, Kristoff and Gavazzi will no doubt be stars and considerably more expensive next year. However new DSs will come up and replace them as great value sprinters/climbers.

Unless you're happy for rider values to be set per race there really isn't much that can be done about it.

Would this help you out? It doesn't have any stats, Just a list of riders sorted by team with their value's

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2726269/Riders/riders.htm

I'd like Geraint to actually sign up for the game.

He seems to know what he's talking about

I agree - the only fair way is to just pick which algorithm you're going to use and stick to it. I don't know how they decided the values for this season - but for next year presumably some kind of system that accounts for world ranking and points scored in the game for the previous 2 seasons (average points per day's racing or whatever). Some guys would come out a bit overpriced, and some would come out as bargains - depending on the race - thats just the fun of it.

I think its a fantastic game - the only thing I'd consider changing is how its decided which riders are DS and which are stars. Personally I'd prefer slightly less stars (eg max 6 per team) and the option of choosing either 3 or 4 in your team rather than the enforced 4, but maybe thats over-complicating things?

Removing the cap would be good so you can have 3 stars, or 5 stars or whatever, for some races (ToC, the classics) I had plenty of budget left and would have loved some cheap stars but the restriction makes the game interesting and I'd be happy for it to stay.

I appreciate the comments about the rider values, just thought i would throw it in for discussion.

I would love an easier way to see how my riders just scored. Having to click back to the stage scores and search for my riders just seems clumsy. I think it would be super helpful to have more useful information when you click on riders, such as specific stage results, rather than just a trend line of scores. A trend line isn't super helpful when stages differ so drastically.

you know you can click on your score to see your team and their individual scores, right?

we won't be changing this for 2012 but we will be looking at it for next year

that shouldn't be too taxing to add, i'll see what i can do

the 'last stage played' league tells you where you came overall on any given stage

Slightly off-topic, but would it be possible to put the direct forum link back in the game head links?

Thanks.

Mmm... I do now

I hate having to type my password and username every time I go to the game, especially on iPad/iPhone.

Is it possible to set a cookie to remember that the user is logged in?

This might be a setting issue on your iphone/ipad as on my android phone it always remembers my password/username and keeps me logged in unless I clear my history/cache.