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Another, deeper fantasy idea

First of all, I hope the admins will show some leniency towards this slightly off-topic thread. (I wasn't sure where to place it, I figured this subforum is read by the most fantasy freaks like myself.) I love the idea of "Fantasy Cycling", but I'm here to tell you some more about my own little project and hear what you guys think.

Short version

I am organizing an independent fantasy competition (starting from Paris-Nice) which, unlike "Fantasy Cycling", focuses more on the long-term future of your fantasy team that competes with the other 17 WorldTour teams. It is a so-called contracts (aka dynasty) league, in which you initially keep 3-5 riders from a chosen WorldTour team, and then complete your team by bidding for the rest of the peloton offering them contracts up to 3 years long, while being limited by a salary cap. Then you select 8/9 riders to compete in each WorldTour event. Pretty much makes you feel like a real team owner. I don't think it has been tried before. I'm looking forward to your comments, advice, or maybe even interest in joining. More details: http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?board=1107.0

Long version - the rules

Summary
This is a fantasy league in which you take over one of the 18 World Tour teams, sign up to 30 riders in a series of auctions, and give them multi-year contracts within your total salary cap. Then you choose 8/9 guys to score for you in each race based on the real-life results, and redo the bidding for riders out of contract and neo-pros each January.

Salary Cap
Each team starts with 3-5 keepers and is equally rich. It can spend €5M per year on salaries, including the keepers. Each team can have between 20 and 30 riders.

Keepers' Salaries
All keepers are on a 1 year deal. The salary is derived from his CQ ranking in 2011, 2010, and 2009. The highest of the three is multiplied by 500 and rounded up to the next €10k. Minimum keeper salary is €100k. Examples:
Vanendert - 435*500=217500 => €220k
Gilbert - 3168*500=1584000 => €1.58M
Voeckler - 1744*500=872000 => €880k
Boonen - 1377*500=688500 => €690k
Your grandma - 0*500 => €100k

FA Bidding
Bids are in format of total contract value. The minimum bid is €30k and the minimum increment is 10% of the last bid, rounded up to the nearest €10k. Note that the number of years does not need to be listed until the bid is won. The resulting salary will be the final bid divided by number of years, rounded up to the next €10k. The winning bid will be the highest total contract amount.

Each player is auctioned in a separate thread at the ProFSL website that may be started by anyone, but please follow the template. There is no limit to the number of players that can be auctioned at one time or the number of bids for a player. You cannot at any point make bids that (if all successful) would take you over 30 riders or the salary cap. A bid on a player is considered final when it has been open for 48 hours. This means that no other GM has bid higher on the player of interest.

Contracts
Bidding will be done for players before the league starts and as well as during free agency each following winter. You will be bidding on the whole amount of the contract. Example: If a team bids €3M for Cadel Evans, then that declares that the entire value of his contract is €3M, and they can still choose between 1 year €3M, 2 years €1.5M per, or 3 years €1M per. If he retires earlier, tough luck. Contract guidelines are:

Salary range, Maximum Years
€200k or less (per year) = 1 year
€210k - €990k = 2 years
€1M or higher = 3 years

Example: Astana sign Andy Schleck for €2.4M. Based on this amount, they are only able to sign him to a contract up to 2 years, because if Andy's total salary was broken down over 3 years, it would only be €800k per year, not the €1M that is required for a 3 year contract. Nevertheless, if the bid was won at €2.4M then a higher total contract amount can be awarded.

Trades
Two teams can at any point exchange riders and their contracts, as long as it keeps them within the salary cap.

Free agents
A team can at any point during the season start an auction for any rider on the free market. From February 1st, please send a PM to everybody in such a case, the clock increases to 96 hours.

Scoring
Until the evening before the race (until 23h59 local time), every team nominates 8 riders (9 for the Grand Tours) that represent them in this race. Only these riders will score points if they do well IRL. If a team doesn't announce its squad, their 8/9 highest paid riders not participating in any other race at this moment will be selected automatically.

Points are scored in UCI WorldTour events only, but according to the CQ ranking scoring, and not to the UCI WorldTour scoring. CQ ranking rewards riders for finishing well in classics, stages, stage races, but also for keeping and winning jerseys.

All these points are added up in the individual ranking. The final score of each team will be equal to the sum of the points scored by their riders in the calendar year (when nominated for races). The ranking of teams in the unlikely event of a tie will be determined by the place of their best rider in the individual ranking.

Calendar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_UCI_World_Tour#Events
(We're skipping Tour Down Under this year.)

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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Garfield | 5 years ago
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18 returning teams for 2019, looking for 2 more. The auctions begin on November 1.

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Garfield | 4 years ago
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The auctions for 2020 will start on November 1.

We have a couple of openings!

The other exciting news is that we conveniently upgraded to the ever-popular ProBoards, and thus you'll find the sign-up sheet here: http://fantasycycling.freeforums.net/thread/1/global-sign-sheet

(Please contact me there directly, you can even post as a guest if you insist.)

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Garfield | 4 years ago
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We're underway, today is your last chance to join.
(We're 18, while 19-20 would resemble the real-life World Tour a bit more, thus the push.)

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Garfield | 2 years ago
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We're back on November 1 and you're in luck - a couple of spots have opened up!

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Garfield | 2 years ago
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Update: just realized the opening post hasn't aged well, since we've moved to our own platform and improved the game over the past 9 years. Sign up here: https://fantasycycling.freeforums.net/thread/1/sign-sheet-rule-all

Starting tomorrow, but you'll be alright if you sign up within a week or so.

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Garfield | 5 months ago
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We're back baby!

Kicking off on November 6.

14 teams confirmed, would love to get back to the usual 18 to avoid those awkward merger talks  3

Sign up here please:

https://fantasycycling.freeforums.net/thread/1/sign-sheet-rule-all

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Ghedebrav replied to Joelsim | 9 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

Do it, do it, do it!

Do it!

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Garfield replied to Rory McCann | 7 years ago
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FYI: kick-off is November 1.

Rory McCann wrote:

It looks tempting! For how long have you been doing this?

First attempts in 2012. Since 2013 more professionally.

Like I said Rory: please note I'm not around here very often, so in order to join I'm afraid you MUST sign up to ProFSL  and contact me there using the links you'll find in my opening post.

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Garfield replied to Garfield | 3 years ago
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Hope everybody is still healthy, safe, and sane!

When a pandemic keeps you indoors, why not join an original fantasy project?

We're starting the new season in 2 weeks.

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Garfield | 11 years ago
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As we enter year 2, next week we'll hold an expansion draft for any new managers. This is officially the last opportunity to join before the 2013 season.

If you'd like to join, check out the league for yourself: http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?board=1107.0

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Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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You haven't a hope in hell of getting me involved with this one  4

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Raleigh | 11 years ago
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(Do it Gkam)

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Garfield | 11 years ago
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Glad you guys are enjoying it!
Hopefully we can find 2-3 more persons.

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Raleigh | 11 years ago
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Same.

Some people are already WAY overpriced though.

Like Paolini, Albasini, Pozzevivo etc.

The game has some flaws, but it is actually really good.

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TERatcliffe26 | 11 years ago
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Still spaces in this if anyone is interested.

Its more like a football manager style game where you buy riders via auction, and takes on a different angle compared to the usual games seen.

Auctions have just begun and so has the neo-pro draft, so for anyone interested in something different that will keep you occupied more so in the off season with the picking of teams, now would be a good time to join.

So far ive found it quite intriguing.

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Raleigh | 11 years ago
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If anyone wants to team up with me on Katusha, I'd take that gladly.

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TERatcliffe26 | 11 years ago
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I could be interested but need to have a read through everything

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Garfield replied to TERatcliffe26 | 11 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

I could be interested but need to have a read through everything

All right then, keep me posted!

I hear Argos-Shimano might join the World Tour in 2013 - sounds like a perfect fit if only you like them  16

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TERatcliffe26 replied to Garfield | 11 years ago
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Garfield wrote:
TERatcliffe26 wrote:

I could be interested but need to have a read through everything

All right then, keep me posted!

I hear Argos-Shimano might join the World Tour in 2013 - sounds like a perfect fit if only you like them  16

I think I understand it all, and im happy to take on a team, that team would be fine (would prefer europcar).... however my only question/confusion is what happens regarding riders which are already at other teams that I would want to be a keeper if I take such a team?

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Garfield replied to TERatcliffe26 | 11 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

I think I understand it all, and im happy to take on a team, that team would be fine (would prefer europcar).... however my only question/confusion is what happens regarding riders which are already at other teams that I would want to be a keeper if I take such a team?

All right, Europcar it is then!

And there are no keepers, as this is year 2 of the game. (We had them last year in order for the teams to resemble the real ones a bit.) It's just going to be free agent auctions for 80% of the peloton, and a simple fun draft for neo-pros.

Please register at ProFSL, and post in the sign-up sheet leaving your Google Account, or at least email address.

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Raleigh | 11 years ago
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OK, I'll give it a go.

How do I sign up?

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Garfield replied to Raleigh | 11 years ago
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Raleigh wrote:

OK, I'll give it a go.

How do I sign up?

Cool! There is a sign-up sheet in the league forum: http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?board=1107.0

To all the others: we'd gladly welcome new teams in our peloton, don't think your chance is gone  16

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Raleigh | 11 years ago
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Hmm.

Who's on it?

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Garfield replied to Raleigh | 11 years ago
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Raleigh wrote:

Hmm.

Who's on it?

It's pretty insignificant, because you have space for 30, and 90% of the riders are free agents this winter. But to answer your question: Karpets, Clarke, Nuyens, Sioutsou, Machado.

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Raleigh | 11 years ago
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Gahh, just had a look.

This is v. complicated...

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Garfield replied to Raleigh | 11 years ago
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Raleigh wrote:

Gahh, just had a look.

This is v. complicated...

We prefer the word 'realistic'  16
And it actually becomes very easy once you grasp it.

Anyway, the team is Katusha.

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Raleigh | 11 years ago
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Which team?

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Garfield | 11 years ago
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One open spot. The auctions begin November 1.

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Garfield | 11 years ago
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Season 1 is finishing in roughly two weeks. It's safe to say the game has been a huge success so far. We're all looking forward to 2013 already, with some new features: more races, possibly more GM's (we were 18 this year, but it's not really fixed), possibly a neo-pro draft, and brand new wave of exciting auctions starting from November 1. If you'd like to join, send me a PM on ProFSL and/or check out the league for yourself: http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?board=1107.0

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Garfield | 11 years ago
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There is one team available ahead of the Tour de France, now would be a great moment to jump in!

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