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Have you ever noticed how when you cycle on a windy day, whatever direction you're heading in, you always feel as if you're cycling into the wind?

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Tony Farrelly [2856 posts] 4 years ago
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Funnily enough I noticed that only today. Again

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londonplayer [620 posts] 4 years ago
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I think this is worthy of a PhD theses.

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Tony Farrelly [2856 posts] 4 years ago
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It would also need to take into account the related phenomenon that when you are cycling with a tailwind the lights are always red, but when you've got a headwind they are always green… just, if you sprint for 'em and you always do.

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londonplayer [620 posts] 4 years ago
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surely you should be able to go much faster when the wind is behind you? but I have never actually experienced this. anybody?

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Tony Farrelly [2856 posts] 4 years ago
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ah but when the wind is behind you you get to the lights too soon and you have to stop… obviously not everyone actually does. Not sure what happens to them

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dave atkinson [6142 posts] 4 years ago
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Wind comes directly down from above and blows in all directions at once. I thought everyone knew that.

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road slapper [87 posts] 4 years ago
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I was asking myself the same question only the other day 'Why is it, i do a circular route but am always riding into wind...?'  39

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nick_rearden [434 posts] 4 years ago
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Surely it's related to the famous Greg Lemond quote along the lines of cycling "never getting any easier; you just get faster."

Put another way, if you're always going as fast as you can you are quite literally riding into an ever-increasing headwind as air resistance increases on that logarithmic scale thingie.

The trick is to slow down. I will try to convince myself of this as I'm struggling in this morning.

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londonplayer [620 posts] 4 years ago
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Couldn't we build a large windshield around the whole of the island of Britain? Thus preventing any strong winds from the Atlantic from ruining cycle commutes and leisure rides.

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paulfg42 [382 posts] 4 years ago
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Is it getting more windy in this country. Cycling in NE england, it seems to be windy every day.

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PhilRuss [352 posts] 4 years ago
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No, actually I'm so extremely very fast that the wind never catches me and so I create a headwind even if I'm in a 100mph tailwind. Honest.
P.R.

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PeteH [151 posts] 4 years ago
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So what if you had two cyclists cycling in opposite directions along the same road. Do they both have headwinds?

That's, like, Zeno's paradox. Wow. Heavy stuff.

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viveLaPants [94 posts] 4 years ago
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dave_atkinson wrote:

Wind comes directly down from above

My wind comes from the bottom.  4

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arrieredupeleton [574 posts] 4 years ago
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Lose the spacers and invert your stem if its pointing up. Stick it in the big ring and once you pass 30mph, you'll be more concerned with air resistance and drag so the wind is irrelevant.***wakes up***

I always think a strong wind is like an extra 2% on a gradient.

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zanf [759 posts] 4 years ago
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londonplayer wrote:

Couldn't we build a large windshield around the whole of the island of Britain? Thus preventing any strong winds from the Atlantic from ruining cycle commutes and leisure rides.

Nature did that for us: its called "Ireland"

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paulfg42 [382 posts] 4 years ago
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The older you get the stronger the wind gets... and it's always in your face.
- Jack Nicklaus

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Cuba [3 posts] 4 years ago
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Anyone remember earlier in the year, in the three months after Easter when it was tres windy for no seasonally apparent reason? I witnessed a cyclist travelling in the opposite direction (along Kennington Lane) experiencing the same head wind as me.

I thought it was odd at the time but now I realise I was part of a ZENO? experiment.

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TchmilFan [19 posts] 4 years ago
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I truly hate Zeno's paradox. IT'S NOT A PARADOX. WTF MAKES IT PARADOXICAL?
Oh look, you never arrive.

0f course you never arrive (Imagine I'm John Cleese at this point), you've set the conditions of the whole thing such that you'll never arrive.

Nnnnnnnnnn-waaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAGH!

Ooooh, look at me - motion is impossible.

and relax

I'm sorry, there's supposed to be some cycling content? Er, don't forget to take the lockring out of the Tracon hub if you're truing your R-SYS wheel. There you go.

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Municipal Waste [237 posts] 4 years ago
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I'm sure it's been a windy year in general  39

I actually got blown off my bike for the first time ever this year! Cycling home from work on a particularly exposed stretch of road between Eastbourne and Seaford I decided it might be safer to cycle on the grass verge rather than the road as I have hybrid tyres on.
I tried to get up onto the verge at a point where there was a drop down to get onto the grass and at the exact moment I made the jump.. GUST! FACK!

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mr-andrew [300 posts] 4 years ago
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I've noticed that it always seems to blow harder when it's my turn to take the front in a group. Several mates have confirmed this suspicion. Some sort of conspiracy?

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Fish_n_Chips [397 posts] 4 years ago
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Really windy now in Cambridgeshire+no hills.

Aero position is the only way I get through it and think of all the great training you will get!

Best thing to do: accept the British weather is rubbish, no more moaning and get on enjoying the riding and no malaria.

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James Warrener [1080 posts] 4 years ago
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Any excuse to roll out this video won't be missed  4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kNkV2a-bs8

Agree with Fish_n_Chips

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shollin [47 posts] 4 years ago
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Where I cycle in South Wales it's a choice between lots of hills where you at least get the "weeeeeeeeee" factor going down or a flat wind tunnel along the Severn Estuary. The scenery is beautiful though and the wind thing, well it's character building, apparently  39

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stuke [335 posts] 4 years ago
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Never known it happen this way round before but -:tailwind commute this morning
:winds changed direction to give me a tailwind home
:winds going to change direction overnight to give me a tailwind in the morning  4

what have I done to deserve this  39

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shollin [47 posts] 4 years ago
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If you can't get your bike to stay on the ground so you can actually get on the thing then you know it's windy!  20http://www.cyclingbrussels.be/?p=387

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phy2sll [32 posts] 4 years ago
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Geeky stats for y'all:

http://road.cc/sites/default/files/weather stats.JPG

I think these measurements are from Gatwick, so slightly Londoncentric, sorry.  26

First eleven months of both years BTW. Trying to be as consistent as possible.

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phy2sll [32 posts] 4 years ago
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So: warmer, drier and windier.

Also, wind direction was much more focussed this year:

2010
Most frequent wind direction: SW (11%)
2nd most frequent: WSW (10%)

2011
Most frequent wind direction: SW (18%)
2nd most frequent: SSW (14%)

Fascinating stuff, I'm sure you'll agree!  26

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giff77 [1191 posts] 4 years ago
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Huge mistake, took the fixie to work. Head wind for five miles both ways. At one stage the gusts were so strong I was down to 2mph. Llegs are still burning

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shollin [47 posts] 4 years ago
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@giff77, think of it as good training  3

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arrieredupeleton [574 posts] 4 years ago
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I've a theory for this thesis. You are far less aerodynamic on a bike at going into the wind i.e. the position of the torso, head and arms effectively 'scoop' the air and slow you down. But look at a cyclist from behind and its a far more sleeker position (even if I say so myself). Therefore a tailwind just blows over you and doesn't give you that added assistance we all crave.

The answer is to create a sail (which the UCI ban under the 'fairing' rule) or to sit on the bike backwards like a rower would. I can just see Cancellara and Martin's revised TT positions.

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