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Suggestions for 2012 season
Seeing as the 2011 fantasy season is now winding down I figured I'd start a topic for everyone suggestions/requests for next year. I know a few have been given through the season but I thought it'd be more helpful for us to have our suggestions and requests for next season all in one place.
Other than having a little more flexibility on who I can pick (up to 3 ARs, 2PC etc) my suggestion is:
- Have a team reset button when doing transfers -
Basically be able to reset my own transfers if I realise I've messed up. While this is the basic reason it would also allow people who perhaps can't always make their transfers at 10:55 to make two transfers immediately when the window opens and then if they have a change of heart or realise that one of their riders has abandoned/crashed/been done for drugs they can reset their team to how it was at the end of the last stage and redo their transfers. Also this might stop people having to keep asking Dave to reset their team if they mess up.
On variable rider values despite being against it at first I like that the riders change in value a little throughout the season but I think variations might be better if they were slightly more noticeable than they are now. How it was during the Giro was probably a bit excessive, how it was during the TdF was hardly noticeable and a bit pointless (other than to mean that I was always 0.1 short of having the team I really wanted) so either no changes or more noticeable changes would be better.
If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.
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I posted this elsewhere, but thought it might be approprite here, too
I don't like:
, but I do like the idea of having two teams, one with transfer, the other without. Thanks!
Ok, when do we get to see the new rules and any changes? December? How about letting us vote on them bewteen now and the end of the yaer? I got a lot of planning to do!
Just to be devil's advocate what if we didn't change the game itself but maybe changed the way we awarded prizes? So bigger daily prizes to keep the interest going until the end of a stage race, but maybe at the cost of a slightly lesser main prize - though depending on the sponsors maybe not at the cost of a lesser prize.
I'm quite keen that we keep the element of needing to do some research because I think that for many people that's the most enjoyable part.
I'd be ok with keeping the rules the same, but I'd want, as stated above, only one GC, one KM and one PC guy per team, per race, especially for the grand tours!
Maybe, as in the Giro de Lombardia and the WC's, there should be no limits as to 1 GC, 1 KM, 1 PC, etc... for anything but stage races. I think that makes a little sense.
Now, please, don't get rid of the bikes as prizes. I'd have a heart attack!
I don't think many people would leave the game if it didn't change but as it's pretty new it would make sense to try and get it right asap. I like the game as it is and feel that rather than wholesale changes a few tweaks here and there would be massively beneficial to the way the game plays.
Prize wise I think you need to be careful. I guess that through ad revenue the game supports alot of the site (as it generates alot of hits) so you want as much through traffic as possible. Most of the players to date will probably have been convinced to play by the large prizes on offer, especially for the TdF, and then stayed with the game through the rest of the season. Diminishing the 'value' of the main prizes might lose some players and wouldn't draw as many new ones in. A headline prize for the TdF of £2-3k's worth of bike is a big pull.
As I've said before what I feel really needs to happen is that everyone has an equal change for every prize so for each grand tour everyone starts on equal credits etc. I worry that spot prizes might go to the team with the biggest budget which means those already in contention for the main prizes. If team budgets didn't alter then yes, I'd be all for upping the 'worth' of the spot prizes and giving everyone the opportunity to win something.
I wouldn't have a problem with that - it would be nice if we could have a few more (and/or later season) races. I assume that wouldn't need changes to the rules.
More prizes would be nice but, having realised very early on that I had no chance of any of the main prizes, the game itself was really the point and kept me hooked throughout the season.
Agree with Simon F on this... the prizes are secondary for 95% of the field. If we were doing it for prizes then most people would drop out after a short time.
And also agree that it doesn't need wholesale change - just some tweaks to make the classics work a bit better and be slightly more flexible in category selection.
I'm not bothered about rules or prizes neither as it seems to be working OK at the moment & I just enjoy the crack.
The simpler the rules the better, but if the changes give more flexibility in selection, that's fine
I agree with this. The flexibility afforded for the WC's and Lombardia seems like something that would be ok for one day races.
Ok, is there a timeline for the changes to be announced or discussed? Any polls going to be set uo somewhere? January? Before the Tour Down Under? I'm ready!
Big thanks for the game - really enlivened the pro season, and helped me and the mrs focus on certain riders through different races and the whole season. I won the TdF but she won the season!
I don't mind some of the tweaking as per somew of the comments above, but really just want it up and running again. Any proposed dates when it will be ready to go?
You know, I really wanted to say thanks, too... I've been on this game every day for so long I can't believe it. I'm really addicted to it!
Thanks for the high! 
And now my top two requests for next season:
1.
Yes, please!
That! Or! Being able to make all the changes I want to my team and have transfers charged only at the end of a transfer deadline! 
2. Remove the Star Rider/Domestique restrictions!
Although I'd be ok with limiting the amount of GC contenders to 4 per team only (!) during Grand Tours.
Otherwise, all Star Riders restrictions should be removed for all races all year long. Budget constraints will prevent team stacking in most cases.
I think we could also do away with the no more than 2 riders per team rule. There's no real advantage to having more than 2 riders oer team except in a TTT, and then you'd probably have to dig yourself out of a hole when the sprint stages or mountain stages come along!
But, yep! It's a mighty fun game and I love it! Thanks!
The 2 per team really came home to roost in the USA Pro Challenge
How so?...
Well, from the very beginning most people wanted a roster of only Garmin and BMC guys but you couldn't even get halfway there due to the rule. The 2-rider-per-team rule is especially hard on Purists sometimes.
In the end, having the full Garmin roster wouldn't have been a bad move! Tyler Farrar got 2 stage wins, Tom Danielson got a stage win & lots of KOM points, Vande Velde won the overall and lots of points along the way, Dave Zabriskie was in the points a couple times... and I'm sure there were more Garmin scores I'm forgetting at the moment.
Wow. I guess in a smaller race with lots of lesser known riders choosing a team becomes a bit more of a challenge.
I can see why they would want to limit the number of riders from one team in particular in these smaller races to force you to go outside the box, but! it is harder on purists, as you say.
I don't know, I think we can do without that rule next year. I can't see why that rule was implemented. It only seems to matter in smaller races or for TTT's.
If you don't want to get rid of it maybe you can forfeit 5 points if you choose to have a 3rd rider from the same team... Just like you forfeit 20 points if you want an extra transfer.
I don't know.. but thanks for the explanation!
A hardcore purist competition where you select a pool of 30 riders at the start of the season from which to chose your team for each race.
we should probably have a 2013 season thread rather than tacking the new stuff onto this one...
Great idea about tbe 2013 thread...suggest it to dave
How about being able to nominate a team leader for double points?
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