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A relatively flat day compared to whats been over the last few days, no huge percent's or long climbs

http://skysports.html.infostradasports.com/asp/lib/event/tour/index.asp?...

Looks like Cofidis fancy it today two in the break with a gap of 8.20

43 Maté (ESP, COF) +14:39
15 Houanard (FRA, ALM) +59:08
49 Fouchard (FRA, COF) +1:01:04
23 Cabello (ESP, ACG) +1:19:15

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TERatcliffe26 [4727 posts] 6 years ago
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noone in the break for again, its been a crap vuelta for me

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Gkam84 [9111 posts] 6 years ago
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Would you believe me if i tell you i have them all  26

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TERatcliffe26 [4727 posts] 6 years ago
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nope i wont, as i know u cant have as you couldnt make 4 transfers yesterday

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Gkam84 [9111 posts] 6 years ago
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Nah i've gone for GC points today with a few wannabe sprinters more focused on the next two mountain finish stages, already planned my transfers for tonight aswell  4

Joaquim RODRIGUEZ
Manuel QUINZIATO
Bauke MOLLEMA
Daniel MARTIN
Taylor PHINNEY
Jan BAKELANDTS
Enrico GASPAROTTO
Pablo LASTRAS GARCIA
Daniel MORENO FERNANDEZ

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TERatcliffe26 [4727 posts] 6 years ago
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interesting im almost opposite

Wiggins
Bennati
Cobo
Sagan
Fuglsang
Capecchi
Gasparotto
Kittel
Degenkolb

I can reveal Degenkolb and Kittel will not be in my team after 2night

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TERatcliffe26 [4727 posts] 6 years ago
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Massive crash vacon rider's fault i think

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Gkam84 [9111 posts] 6 years ago
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Farrar should be shot for that move, looks like Scarponi could be in a world of pain, Farrar still on the deck, Lastaras got hit hard aswell, riders walking over the line to finish

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TERatcliffe26 [4727 posts] 6 years ago
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on another note i may have had 1,2,3 and poss 5 but cant tell who was who

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TERatcliffe26 [4727 posts] 6 years ago
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was it farrar's fault then? i thought it was the vaconsolei rider that moved?

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Gkam84 [9111 posts] 6 years ago
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From my view on the Eurosport coverage it looks like it was Farrar swinging over to his right

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Gkam84 [9111 posts] 6 years ago
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Just seen it again, YEAH Farrar coming across trying to cut people off, if i was the race director and just seen what i have, i would go to him, wave goodbye and chuck him out  14

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TERatcliffe26 [4727 posts] 6 years ago
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yh ive just seen it again, he came steaming into the vaconsolei rider. well we shall see, if it was cav we no what would happen

i had 1,2,4 and 9th  4

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Gkam84 [9111 posts] 6 years ago
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Top 20 stage

1 Kittel (SKS) 4:47:59
2 P. Sagan (LIQ) +0
3 Freire (RAB) +0
4 Bennati (LEO) +0
5 Mondory (ALM) +0
6 J.J. Haedo (SBS) +0
7 Veelers (SKS) +0
8 Petacchi (LAM) +0
9 Gasparotto (AST) +0
10 Howard (THR) +0
11 Bruseghin (MOV) +0
12 Stannard (SKY) +0
13 F. Gavazzi (LAM) +0
14 Lobato (ACG) +0
15 Capecchi (LIQ) +0
16 Kessiakoff (AST) +0
17 D. Malacarne (QST) +0
18 Da Dalto (LIQ) +0
19 N. Maes (QST) +0
20 Bonnafond (ALM) +0

I only got 9th  20

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Gkam84 [9111 posts] 6 years ago
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Degenkolb??? Nah i really think you should keep him and take Farrar in along with the vaconsolei rider who was helped across the line with someone holding a towel to his face

So much for the people defending Degenkolb yesterday, i really dont think he's a contender for a stage this year and depending on where he ends up next year, i dont see him as a GT rider

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TERatcliffe26 [4727 posts] 6 years ago
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yh i put him in as ive scored hardly any points so far and has thus not cost me anything as i wouldnt have had a rider in scoring me any points had i left him out.
but nope i wont be taking any of those others in

i didnt defend him or pass comment about him, my only point is he may improve with experience but right now he aint good enough compared to a kittel who is just as inexperienced

As for points scored im still no threat to you at all

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TERatcliffe26 [4727 posts] 6 years ago
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The current GC has all the time gaps from the crash, so unorganised is the vuelta

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Gkam84 [9111 posts] 6 years ago
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Overall maybe not, but i think you'll have me in the this tour now

I'm just laughing at the Infostrada standings, cause they haven't bothered to put all the times back to 0 with no time gaps cause it was inside the last 3km, whats going to be hard for the tour now, work out who was in that group and who was in the tailed off group and split the times  19

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TERatcliffe26 [4727 posts] 6 years ago
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overall im ahead, but struggling in this tour, i reckon i will have got back about 40 points today on you, but you were about 90 ahead i think.

I know thats what i was referring too, although id be quite happy for it to stay like that, but it is gonna be a nightmare for them

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Gkam84 [9111 posts] 6 years ago
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DONT pay any attention to this, i'm just putting it up for the laugh that i'm having

Top 20 GC

1 Sy. Chavanel (QST) 27:29:39
2 Fuglsang (LEO) +14
3 Kessiakoff (AST) +22
4 Bruseghin (MOV) +31
5 Monfort (LEO) +33
6 Seeldraeyers (QST) +37
7 Pardilla (MOV) +46
8 L. Sánchez (RAB) +54
9 Zubeldia (RSH) +1:03
10 Capecchi (LIQ) +1:06
11 J.J. Cobo (GEO) +1:10
12 Froome (SKY) +1:13
13 Nibali (LIQ) +1:22
14 D. Moreno (KAT) +1:32
15 Wiggins (SKY) +1:34
16 Roche (ALM) +1:37
17 Van den Broeck (OLO) +1:38
18 Nieve (EUS) +1:39
19 Mollema (RAB) +1:39
20 Joa. Rodríguez (KAT) +1:40

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Gkam84 [9111 posts] 6 years ago
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Top tip for everyone tomorrow, get Michal Golas in  44 44 44

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Gkam84 [9111 posts] 6 years ago
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Proper top 10 GC

1 Sy. Chavanel (QST) 27:29:12
2 D. Moreno (KAT) +15
3 Nibali (LIQ) +16
4 Joa. Rodríguez (KAT) +23
5 Fuglsang (LEO) +25
6 Kessiakoff (AST) +41
7 Monfort (LEO) +44
8 Van den Broeck (OLO) +49
9 Pardilla (MOV) +49
10 Bruseghin (MOV) +52

Sagan takes the points jersey

1 P. Sagan (LIQ) 50
2 Joa. Rodríguez (KAT) 48
3 Lastras (MOV) 48
4 D. Moreno (KAT) 41
5 Kittel (SKS) 41

Mountains stays the same

1 D. Moreno (KAT) 20
2 C. Sørensen (SBS) 15
3 de Kort (SKS) 13
4 Moncoutié (COF) 10
5 Martin (GRM) 10

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macauley ley [26 posts] 6 years ago
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how many points do you get if your rider is wearing a jersey ?

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Gkam84 [9111 posts] 6 years ago
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depends on which one

Leaders 10
Points 5
Mountain 5
Allround 0

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macauley ley [26 posts] 6 years ago
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thanks for that , 87 points today i think  4 !!

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thefatcyclist [543 posts] 6 years ago
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1/2 and some jersey and gc points maybe a decent load at last.
By the way my new bontrager bum fitted saddle is making my butt sore as anything with an F.  22

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Gkam84 [9111 posts] 6 years ago
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Your only 1 point behind me on this tour fatty  19

TERatcliffe26 your now 40 points behind in the tour and around 70 ahead in the season, i'll have you before the end  3

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thefatcyclist [543 posts] 6 years ago
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Yeh, but had to modify my plan to get them a miserable 60 odd, and now out out of shape for the weekend.

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Simon_MacMichael [2504 posts] 6 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

So much for the people defending Degenkolb yesterday, i really dont think he's a contender for a stage this year and depending on where he ends up next year, i dont see him as a GT rider

Well done to Kittel for taking the stage today, I'm still mystified as to why you are so dismissive of Degenkolb though?

Out of curiosity, I just checked latest IG Rankings (which include Tour of Poland), Degenkolb is in 58th place, Kittel is 106th.

Now that doesn't prove who is the better rider necessarily, but it does suggest that dismissing Degenkolb out of hand is a bit unfair.

For what it's worth, I see him as more of an attacking rider who can sprint, rather than an out-and-out sprinter - which is rather handy, since he'll be racing with Kittel at Skil Shimano next season of course (and previously they raced together at Thüringer Energie).

By the way, Skil Shimano's manager reckons Degenkolb is a future TDF green jersey winner.

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TERatcliffe26 [4727 posts] 6 years ago
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Gkam i have scope to catch you in the vuelta, and with only 3 events, i believe, after the vuelta, u need to make a few more points on me before the vuelta finishes to catch me overall but its gonna be close, we should both finish about 100th overall unless either of us has a distaster

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JAndrewHill [1215 posts] 6 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

DONT pay any attention to this, i'm just putting it up for the laugh that i'm having

Top 20 GC

1 Sy. Chavanel (QST) 27:29:39
2 Fuglsang (LEO) +14
3 Kessiakoff (AST) +22
4 Bruseghin (MOV) +31
5 Monfort (LEO) +33
6 Seeldraeyers (QST) +37
7 Pardilla (MOV) +46
8 L. Sánchez (RAB) +54
9 Zubeldia (RSH) +1:03
10 Capecchi (LIQ) +1:06
11 J.J. Cobo (GEO) +1:10
12 Froome (SKY) +1:13
13 Nibali (LIQ) +1:22
14 D. Moreno (KAT) +1:32
15 Wiggins (SKY) +1:34
16 Roche (ALM) +1:37
17 Van den Broeck (OLO) +1:38
18 Nieve (EUS) +1:39
19 Mollema (RAB) +1:39
20 Joa. Rodríguez (KAT) +1:40

So I will ignore it and Chavenel is sacked ! I'll bring a real rider in instead to replace him . . . or am I being NAIVE ?
(Does anyone work out my cryptic clues?)

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