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i predict Degenkold will do well tomorrow cos i just transferred him out for a climber
I doubt it, is energy is hanging out his behind, lol
Phinney for the break 2moro
is the considered opinion that Degenkolb is not on form this year?
This year? i've never really rated him that much, but he could come good, just not this tour, even if he did get better i think there are to many others to out class him
Bizarre couple of comments about Degenkolb
The guy is 22 years old. He's in his first season at this level. Among other wins, he took two stages of the Dauphine. He's on his way to becoming the next big star of German cycling.
Geraint Thomas rates him. That's enough to keep him in my team. Especially since there is no Goss or Cav for HTC to work for in the flatter stages
Hmmm he might come to something, i didn't know he was only 22, but i feel the next german star is already Marcel Kittel
Right, I'm away for a few days, so I've got to plan for a breakway day, two mountain stages, and the ITT. Moncoutie and Degenkolb in for Froome and Garate. I'm hoping Degenkolb in a break tomorrow, Moncoutie for the hills. I've got Bennati in for tomorrow in case it does become a sprint, and Wiggo for the TT, where he should jump up in the GC, all being well.
tomorrow looks like a classic man's day so went
Stage 72 IN:Daniel MARTIN OUT:Luis Leon SANCHEZ GIL
Stage 72 IN:Jan BAKELANDTS OUT:Konstantin SIVTSOV
Ahh. I have Bakelandts too
Got Kittel and Degenkolb in my team. Had them both in my team for far too long in fact so I hope they come good tomorrow.
Just spotted a problem with the scoring for stage 6, looks like Sagan should have 26 points instead of 21:
20 for the stage win
5 for being a member of the winning team
1 for 5th in the points classification
or am I wrong?
@drheaton Top marks for observation, but unfortunately that's not the case. We give the 5 bonus points to the stage winner's team mates but not the stage winner himself.
However...I've just done the morning check of the results and there's just been one change overnight. Houanard actually came 2nd in the second intermediate sprint, so he gets the 4pts instead of Palomares.
It seems that as the first week draws to a close the Vuelta score-monkeys have finally got the hang of this results lark
Fair enough although I thought in previous GTs like this years Giro and TdF that all members got the 5 points so effectively every time Cav won in the TdF he was getting 25 points. I could be, and probably am, wrong but that was just my impression.
EDIT: Sorry, just checked a couple of TdF stages and I am wrong
Just seems a little harsh that if two team mates finish 1-2 the guy in second gets more points than the guy in first.
That's a good point, obviously it's not something that occurs too often, but yesterday was a prime example with the Liquigas-Cannondale guys. I'll stick it on the list of things to discuss when we assess the game for next season.
Its the same with J-rod won and his team mate was 3rd
I dont think it needs discussed at all, its a fair was to score, If his team mate is last, still gets 5 points, so if they happen to finished 1-2 and 2nd gets more points, then you just hope you have him in your team
True, and I guess it doesn't come up very often but there doesn't seem to be much benefit to getting the winning rider as opposed, say, to the guy who finishes 6th who's on the same team and also gets 20pts.
By giving 5pts to the winner as well it creates a clear gap in points between 1st and 2nd and encourages you to go after the winner (not that we all don't already do that but it rewards you more for getting it right). Plus it'd likely be easier to administer as you then can just add 5pts to every member of the team.
You could argue that the Liquigas riders be docked five points each yesterday for all the assistance they gave Sagan (and the flea in the ear he got afterwards)
True and sometimes the 5pts seems far too generous when teams have a breakaway winner and don't do any work all day long.
For me, i dont always go for the winners, sometimes i'm just lucky, like with Lastaras in his break away, it wasn't the fact that i knew he was going to do something in the tour its just that i knew Movistar would and thats the rider i put in
Dont put it past him to jump people towards the end of the stage and try to win again, i think he'll be in the points today ahead of J-Rod tho
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