Stage 4 La Vuelta

by Gkam84   August 23, 2011  

So we're into some mountains today

http://skysports.html.infostradasports.com/asp/lib/event/tour/index.asp?...

A break over the first climb has 5 mins

Rohregger, de Kort, Bagot, Bonnafond, Vorganov, Busche, Toribio

None of my guys this time, but thats ok cause a break aint going to stay away today, all the big guns will be going for it up the last climb trying to shake some of the "might be" GC guys out the back i think

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Did anyone xfer in LASTRAS?

J Andrew Hill

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posted by JAndrewHill [1227 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 16:06

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Has anyone seen SKY today? Where's the wig? (And I don't mean Rooney)

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posted by JAndrewHill [1227 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 16:07

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the whole of my team is pretty cheap tbh, with wiggins gc, cobo one of cheapest climbers, nieve cheapest all rounder

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3977 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 16:07

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Sky are hanging in

Lastras is slightly out the back, but he said yesterday, he'd work for the team today and then in the groupetto tomorrow Big Grin

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posted by Gkam84 [8905 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 16:09

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well ive seen wiggo, cobo, nieve and machado in there so ive got men in that group for defo, not sure about taaramae, capecchi or breschel.

The ones not in for defo are bennati and kittel

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3977 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 16:13

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Were Stannard or Degenkolb up at the front? Nerd

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posted by JAndrewHill [1227 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 16:23

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doubtful, not seen there numbers

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3977 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 16:26

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JAndrewHill wrote:
Cav maybe switching to the tdb???

He cant, he's tied until the end of the vuelta, so unless the UCI let him, then nope

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posted by Gkam84 [8905 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 16:28

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It did say it would be likely that he would be allowed to go to the tob as the grand tours dont like to annoy riders and put them off coming back.

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3977 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 16:33

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But its not upto the tour, he's withdrawn, so UCI rules say he's signed up to La Vuelta so he cant race till its finished, so i hope he dont get into the ToB just because i dont like him much and want to see other riders winning Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [8905 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 16:36

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yh bit the UCI dont normally say no, especially as we still dont know why he abandoned, but i think if he goes anywhere he will go to the classics in canada

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3977 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 16:39

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So bad for me again, i wont even get 10 points

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3977 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 16:55

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Stage Result
1 [Spain] D. Moreno (KAT) 4:51:53
2 [Denmark] C. Sørensen (SBS) +2
3 [Ireland] Martin (GRM) +11
4 [Spain] Joa. Rodríguez (KAT) +11
5 [Poland] Niemiec (LAM) +11
6 [Uzbekistan] S. Lagutin (VCD) +11
7 [Belgium] Van den Broeck (OLO) +11
8 [Netherlands] W. Poels (VCD) +11
9 [Italy] Scarponi (LAM) +11
10 [Netherlands] Mollema (RAB) +11
11 [Belarus] Sivtsov (THR) +11
12 [Italy] Nibali (LIQ) +11
13 [Spain] Nieve (EUS) +11
14 [Slovenia] Brajkovic (RSH) +11
15 [Spain] Zubeldia (RSH) +11
16 [Russia] Menchov (GEO) +11
17 [Netherlands] Kruijswijk (RAB) +11
18 [Great Britain] Wiggins (SKY) +11
19 [Sweden] Kessiakoff (AST) +11
20 [Spain] L. Sánchez (RAB) +11

Sorry GKAM

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posted by JAndrewHill [1227 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 16:58

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Where did that come from written like that? Thinking

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posted by Gkam84 [8905 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 17:02

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it came from the skysports infostrada feed . . . copied and pasted - flags becames words

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posted by JAndrewHill [1227 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 17:10

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Top 10 GC

1 Sy. Chavanel (QST) 13:19:09
2 D. Moreno (KAT) +43
3 Fuglsang (LEO) +49
4 Monfort (LEO) +49
5 Nibali (LIQ) +53
6 Sivtsov (THR) +58
7 Kessiakoff (AST) +59
8 Pardilla (MOV) +1:03
9 Bruseghin (MOV) +1:03
10 Seeldraeyers (QST) +1:04

My flags dont change Crying

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posted by Gkam84 [8905 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 17:18

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13 points Crying. Would've been an awful lot worse without Geniez.

posted by Wig_Billy [577 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 18:12

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My wife and I watched the first two stages of the Vuelta on ITV4 and found the Aussie commentator absolutely awful and grossly irritating. We normally find Sean Kelly very trying as he manages to mangle the English language in a cruel manner, but from now on we'll be watching Eurosport. A shame really, because ITV4 do cover cycling, whilst the BBC absolutely ignore our great sport.

posted by mick809 [1 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 19:18

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Well thats my stay in pursuits over, was lying 7th, but i'm 66th overall, so decided to make some changes

IN:Manuel QUINZIATO OUT:Mark CAVENDISH
IN:Luis Leon SANCHEZ GIL OUT:Stijn DEVOLDER

So my top tip for tomorrow is, Switch out someone and get Devolder in cause he might just break and win tomorrow, take all the jerseys and win the whole thing Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [8905 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 20:38

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Hells. 7 Points :"( from Wiggo and Kruijswijk.

Stewie

posted by stewieatb [298 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 20:59

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Wig_Billy wrote:
13 points Crying. Would've been an awful lot worse without Geniez.

Oops, forgot about my two Rabobank riders. Up to 25 points now, almost respectable... Confused

posted by Wig_Billy [577 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 21:08

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mm 33 pts not too bad

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posted by JAndrewHill [1227 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 22:31

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OK, That;s it. The brits are not doing it. Cav is out.
Wig can't accelerate/sprint. So Wiggins is sacked.

Along with my other Sky rider.

Instead I've gone for a Very Devious But capital gamble (crytic clue there) instead.

But Rodriguez will win tomorrow unless he thinks he might be peaking too soon.

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posted by JAndrewHill [1227 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 22:38

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I think Wiggo did what was needed today, remember its a 3 week tour and this is day 4, the same goes for J-Rod, i doubt he'll go off and thrash the field tomorrow, far to early to show your hand and have everyone else work you over, thats why his team mate went off and won

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posted by Gkam84 [8905 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 22:45

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I agree with GKam about Wiggo, at this stage it's just about staying with the other contenders. In other news, with my abysmal score I dropped about 4-500 places Sad

Stewie

posted by stewieatb [298 posts]
23rd August 2011 - 22:56

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I've abandoned following this race, I've not seen any of the tv coverage, and I can't be bothered to trawl through the figures on road.cc, I think I'll go out on my bike instead...

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posted by the_mikey [146 posts]
24th August 2011 - 7:42

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Just back-checking on the Baza > Sierra Nevada points scoring & there seems to be quite a few discrepancies with how the stage actually finished.
Is it an error or have I misread the rules?

I'm always in two minds
Then I go and pick the wrong one Sad

posted by fluffchucker [284 posts]
24th August 2011 - 8:38

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That's a problem with the Vuelta fluffchucker - the points the race puts up on its website as the official scores straight after the stage, often change overnight. It's the only one of the grand tours that does this on a regular basis - don't know why, but last year was the same too. Because of this we did issue a warning after stage 2 that scores will have to be regarded as provisional until the next day… it's a right pain.

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posted by Tony Farrelly [4145 posts]
24th August 2011 - 9:16

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Hi fluffchucker, I've just done the morning check on the scoring and it seems the only change from last nights provisional scores is that Sutton and Moreno have swapped places in the overall points classification. Was that what you spotted?

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posted by Oli [102 posts]
24th August 2011 - 9:34

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I noticed that Sutton/Moreno placings. When I checked the points against the finish placings, seems I hadn't taken account of points gained on the stage Blushing

I'm always in two minds
Then I go and pick the wrong one Sad

posted by fluffchucker [284 posts]
24th August 2011 - 15:04

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