TdF Stage 11

by Gkam84   July 13, 2011  

6 guys in the break

Ruben Perez
Lars Boom
Andriy Grivko
Mickael Delage
Tristan Valentin
Jimmy Engoulvent

Another 2 guys i was toiling with go off in the break Angry

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can't claim i was ever considering those guys...

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7401 posts]
13th July 2011 - 12:48

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Perez and Grivko for me,

I had Perez in from the start but took him out on rest day

Grivko was one of the Astana riders i looked at when Vino went out, knowing one of them would be in a break away on stage 10 or 11, but i picked another one, he might break in the hills Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [8902 posts]
13th July 2011 - 12:51

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Delage & Boom for me.

In fact, have considered and 'not-picked' delage on two stages and he's made the break in both Confused

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posted by rbx [243 posts]
13th July 2011 - 12:58

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rbx wrote:
Delage & Boom for me.

In fact, have considered and 'not-picked' delage on two stages and he's made the break in both Confused

I hope he falls and skins his knee, just cause you have him Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [8902 posts]
13th July 2011 - 12:59

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Nope, don't have him. Considered him but didn't pick him, so he decided to spite me again by going on that break!

Right now just glad I didn't pick Gadret y'day ... would've wasted a transfer Nerd

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posted by rbx [243 posts]
13th July 2011 - 13:19

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True, but anyone watching yesterday should have known not to pick him, with Cav and others staying the last climb, he just died on it and went right out the back

Well i'm thinking the break might just stay away with everyone saving their legs for tomorrow, i kinda hope not as i took it Rojas and Hoogerland just for today

Then its time to bring back Dekkers in and get a top climbing AR from Luxembourg Nerd

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posted by Gkam84 [8902 posts]
13th July 2011 - 13:41

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From twitter

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Delage is about to count 500 km of total breakaways in the Tour. Ouch, that hurts. Hoogerland was at 452 km

Did anyone else hear about Michael Smith the ESPN guy? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/tour-de-france-car-c...

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posted by Gkam84 [8902 posts]
13th July 2011 - 15:41

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It could be a major dangerous finish, thunder and lightning and its raining upwards Big Grin

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posted by Gkam84 [8902 posts]
13th July 2011 - 15:43

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Gkam84 wrote:
From twitter
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Delage is about to count 500 km of total breakaways in the Tour. Ouch, that hurts. Hoogerland was at 452 km

Did anyone else hear about Michael Smith the ESPN guy? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/tour-de-france-car-crashing-into-cyclists-draws-laughs-from-espns-michael-smith/2011/07/12/gIQAM3pxAI_blog.html

Just scanned his tweets. I'll be really nasty and be laughin out loud if his car happens to get shoved off a freeway by an 18-wheeler.

Actually, if bigger has the right of way according to all oil-addicts, why not everyone move to driving around in 18 wheelers? Driving / riding else is just asking for 'it'. Confused

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posted by rbx [243 posts]
13th July 2011 - 15:54

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should not have taken out gali Sad

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3975 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:02

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I think i might have just made up some decent points today, shame Rojas aint in the top ten GC overall Big Grin

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posted by Gkam84 [8902 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:05

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Annoyingly I took Rojas out for Hinault but still have Bonnet and Galimzyanov so can't complain too much, average day before we hit the bumpy stuff.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:09

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Spent an hour y'day contemplating whether to bring in Cav for Rojas. Had a strong feeling that he'd win today after that loss to Greipel, with Green jersey close and mountains coming up.

Instead, decided to stay with Rojas. That's about 10 points down the drain?

I should start another team with all the people I wanted to but didn't pick. Contra-rbx shall beat rbx hands down!

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posted by rbx [243 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:11

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Well at least you got points for Rojas, i had a sprinter not even in the tour yesterday thinking it was going to be a break away winning

I'm just thinking, now Cav is in green, how many will stay with him or risk other riders for the wins Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [8902 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:14

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Don't think I'll be bothering with Cav anymore till the last stage. Even then, only if he's still in Green.

Rojas may have disappointed but having Galim paid off some of that loss Big Grin

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posted by rbx [243 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:26

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Yeah snap, I think Cav will lose the green, but there is a sprint stage before the final stage, so i think he'll get it back there

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posted by Gkam84 [8902 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:29

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There's another flat stage into montpellier early next week that'll be another sprint finish, even so I won't be keeping a decent sprinter in. My biggest dillema is Gilbert and whether he's going to try get some more points over the next two days or if he's now droppable given he's only guaranteed 3 points for 3rd in the Green Jersey.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:30

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Altho i dont have Gilbert, i wouldn't write him off for staying a decent distance up the mountains and also getting back in green, its between him and rojas for that, but Gilbert has been saying he thinks he can win the whole tour Devil Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [8902 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:33

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I know about the Montpellier stage, but don't think I'll be bringing Cav back in for it.

Bigger concern for me too is Gilbert. Guess I'll see his form over the first two days and then decide whether to swap him out or stick on. Just that his huge cost is a big concern Thinking

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posted by rbx [243 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:41

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I swapped Gilbert out for F. Schleck before todays stage, in preparation for the mountains. I was expecting to lose a few points on this stage but it seems Frank actually scored a couple more that Philippe today. Cool

posted by Wig_Billy [577 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:46

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Blushing Gilbert is living in cuckoo land....The big lumps are going to kill him with his efforts so far...I think that he will pinch the green jersey for a few days,but I see Cav taking it back before Paris....
If he wants to be a GC contender in future tours then he needs to chill a bit...Great to watch but I think he ought to stick to the classics and forget GC aspirations in the 3 big tours....Fantastic rider but he thinks he is Clarke Kent,AKA `Superman`.....

"Shut up enrique"

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posted by STEVESPRO 79 [504 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:49

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Wig_Billy wrote:
I swapped Gilbert out for F. Schleck before todays stage, in preparation for the mountains. I was expecting to lose a few points on this stage but it seems Frank actually scored a couple more that Philippe today. Cool

I wouldn't bet on that

Schleck will only score 7 today for 4th in GC

Gilbert will score points for inter sprint, 9th in GC, 3rd in points

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posted by Gkam84 [8902 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:55

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Gkam84 wrote:
Wig_Billy wrote:
I swapped Gilbert out for F. Schleck before todays stage, in preparation for the mountains. I was expecting to lose a few points on this stage but it seems Frank actually scored a couple more that Philippe today. Cool

I wouldn't bet on that

Schleck will only score 7 today for 4th in GC

Gilbert will score points for inter sprint, 9th in GC, 3rd in points

I'm pretty sure Gilbert was 11th in the inter-sprint, so no points.

posted by Wig_Billy [577 posts]
13th July 2011 - 16:59

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STEVESPRO 79 wrote:
Blushing Gilbert is living in cuckoo land....The big lumps are going to kill him with his efforts so far...I think that he will pinch the green jersey for a few days,but I see Cav taking it back before Paris....
If he wants to be a GC contender in future tours then he needs to chill a bit...Great to watch but I think he ought to stick to the classics and forget GC aspirations in the 3 big tours....Fantastic rider but he thinks he is Clarke Kent,AKA `Superman`.....

I love watching him, just like Hoogerland, but i think the problem is in the team he has round him, is if it was build for him gaining a decent GC standing, then i wouldn't put him past there being up there, but the team wasn't build for him to get anything really, it was for Van Den Broeck and maybe a bit of gripe all's sprints

Gilbert has mostly had to work for himself to get and keep the green which i think has knackered any chance to stick with the big guns in the mountains, but stranger things have happened

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posted by Gkam84 [8902 posts]
13th July 2011 - 17:00

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I love watching Gilbert as well, specially his sprinting / attacking almost every time there's a hill at / close to the end.

Moving forward, while he may be able to keep up with & even beat the best GC contenders on cat 2/3/4 climbs, I doubt he has enough in him to take on them when there are multiple cat 1 & HC climbs every stage.

Also, thinking about his rumoured move to GC, wonder what the equation will be there with Cadel being their GC guy, Thor (also rumoured) vying for Green & sprints. Will Gilbert again be left to fighting his battles alone?

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posted by rbx [243 posts]
13th July 2011 - 17:12

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Rumour is that Gilbert will be moving to Quickstep next year so it'll be interesting how things change and what races he does, I'd have thought Quickstep will want him winning as many classics as possible so maybe he sees this as his last shot and lets be fair, what else will OLO do in the mountains if not ride for Gilbert?

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
13th July 2011 - 17:13

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Omega have 3 abandons, that looks bad for Gilbert's support in the mountains.

posted by thefatcyclist [584 posts]
13th July 2011 - 18:44

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Need a clarification:

If I select a rider who's not in the race (greyed out) but someone from the same team as that rider wins the stage, do I still get the 5 bonus points?

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posted by rbx [243 posts]
13th July 2011 - 18:47

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rbx wrote:
Need a clarification:

If I select a rider who's not in the race (greyed out) but someone from the same team as that rider wins the stage, do I still get the 5 bonus points?

NO the rider HAS to be in the race, cant have been in the race and withdrawn either

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posted by Gkam84 [8902 posts]
13th July 2011 - 18:57

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Swapped Delage for Bonnet so pissed off when I got home at 3:45 but a bit happier at the end. Gali for Ruigh was a good swap as well. My head says: Don't think it's worth keeping Gilbert; but the last time I dumped him he won a stage! And who is the wild card? Charteau again or Izagirre or someone else from EUS?

posted by Alan Tullett [1455 posts]
13th July 2011 - 19:35

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