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Dave - the game site's looking better and better by the day. You must be nearing the top of that curve (unless it turns out to be a faux plateau)  41

I don't know how you'd feel about this but what about a link to the cqranking as an extra button for each rider? (just in case you're running short of new ideas  1 )

Also, how about for next year (so there's plenty time to work out how to do it), each team also has to run a women's team as well to qualify for points. The UCI don't seem to doing much so maybe the weight of Road.cc's thousands of cycling fantasists might boost the status of the women's peloton.

It'd be cool if the comp started earlier (TdU, Qatar etc) so there'd be even less days in the year when I don't have anything interesting to do in the morning at work  23

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James Warrener [1086 posts] 6 years ago
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Good ideas all, I agree the site is looking better and better at the moment.

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dave atkinson [6301 posts] 6 years ago
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PERHAPS YOU'D LIKE THE MOON ON A STICK AND ALL

only kidding  1

plateau? every time we do something it seems to open up new ideas for even more stuff. so we certainly haven't plateaued yet. plateaued? is that right? it looks dreadful.

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simon F [1003 posts] 6 years ago
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It would have to be quite a big stick - tricky to balance  39

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Simon_MacMichael [2493 posts] 6 years ago
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Yeah, "plateaued" is one of those words that just looks plain wrong. I blame the French  4

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Cooks [496 posts] 6 years ago
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Here's a question, (bear in mind that I'm pretty new to all this) Are there leagues set up for individual races? Obviously there is the season long competition (the Evans and Road cc league) but are people setting up race-long leagues? If they are, it may be a good idea to have a list of leagues that you can request to join, with the league owner giving/denying permission. This might be the case already, I might just be too dumb to have spotted it.

I like the idea of a season long comp, but if you join half way through, you aint ever gonna have a chance. With individual race leagues, you can go one race at a time.

Cue somebody pointing me to a link that shows this simply and easily.....

Thanks!!

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drheaton [3323 posts] 6 years ago
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Just one small request, is there any way to add a "Order by: Team" option. There used to be a team 'filter' which was useful but this is probably easier. It won't be useful most of the time but with hundreds of DS's in the TDF it'd be useful to order by team purely for picking HTC riders for the TTT  1

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Tony Farrelly [2893 posts] 6 years ago
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yeah, that's a good idea

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TERatcliffe26 [4710 posts] 6 years ago
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agreed, as i like to look and compare values within teams

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dave atkinson [6301 posts] 6 years ago
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it is done.

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drheaton [3323 posts] 6 years ago
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Great, thanks!

Only just thought of this one, how about 'Order by: Score - Overall' and 'Order by: Score - This Competition' options too?

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Gkam84 [9100 posts] 6 years ago
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Why the feck do people need everything in order, i can understand the team one, thats handy

Value, Team and Surname is surely enough to find who your after, I dont think we even need popularity

Anything else is just an OCD lovers paradise and is to much, are the guys asking for more ways to order them the kind of people who make lists about lists?  19

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drheaton [3323 posts] 6 years ago
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The order by score options would be useful for finding in form riders if you're no sure which DS or KM rider to pick with a small budget, sometimes it can just be easier to order that than have to mouse over 50 different DS's to see which has been having the best race.

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Gkam84 [9100 posts] 6 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

The order by score options would be useful for finding in form riders if you're no sure which DS or KM rider to pick with a small budget, sometimes it can just be easier to order that than have to mouse over 50 different DS's to see which has been having the best race.

Yeah it would be a great help for people who dont want to check riders form and the next stage profile and so on

But then those kinda people would also like a "pick me a winning team" button aswell

You dont want the game getting so easy that a 5yr old could play

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dave atkinson [6301 posts] 6 years ago
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okay, here's how it is. You can have form, cause that's easy. but you can't have score, cause that's harder. deal?

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drheaton [3323 posts] 6 years ago
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Sounds good to me, I figured score would be easier but form is probably better, and I agree with Gkam, I'm not sure how useful popularity is as a sort function but it is nice to see it on the riders.

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sanderville [350 posts] 6 years ago
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I think ordering by form or score is dumbing it down too much. I don't want to be knocked out of the top 10% by newcomers who can't be bothered to at least read up on who's who for the TdF.

If you do add buttons to make it easier then can I have all my lovely money back too?

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JAndrewHill [1212 posts] 6 years ago
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Can we have an option to sort them by speed over the last 1km on the flat . . . . and a sort by what gearing they use on a mountain stage  26 (we should be able to tell who intends to go for it up the hills then.

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Gkam84 [9100 posts] 6 years ago
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Sanderville wrote:

I think ordering by form or score is dumbing it down too much. I don't want to be knocked out of the top 10% by newcomers who can't be bothered to at least read up on who's who for the TdF.

If you do add buttons to make it easier then can I have all my lovely money back too?

To late, its been done  14 not happy, its just making things far to easy

I now want an option to make changes 2km from the finish, thanks, also, why not just give us an unlimited budget and transfers aswell, just to make it even easier

I wanted to see it getting harder for the TdF to weed out some, but its going the wrong way now

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TERatcliffe26 [4710 posts] 6 years ago
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It doesnt even seem to make any sense to me tho, how can Wiggins be bottom of the form list for the GC section, dont understand  17

And yeh like you say it has become rather easy in places. Hopefully the resetting of credits may weed some out as well

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Tony Farrelly [2893 posts] 6 years ago
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Comparing form and score is already part of the game, you just have to go about in a more laborious way. I don't see how making it less time consuming is dumbing down - anyway playing the game like that will only get you so far, just like in the race you'll still need a dollop of luck and to play your hunches, pretty much in ever stage someone will come out of the pack who's done nothing up until then.

Anyway GKAM we're not trying to weed people out we are trying to attract people in. If we wanted to keep the numbers down we'd charge people to play.

We've got no plans to do that… unless you all want to pay?!!  13

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stewieatb [296 posts] 6 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

It doesnt even seem to make any sense to me tho, how can Wiggins be bottom of the form list for the GC section, dont understand  17

It's because he raced the Dauphiné rather than the TdS, meaning that for the last 7 stages of the game he hasn't been racing. To my mind form should be based on the last 5 stages contested rather than the last 5 that happened, but I guess that's harder to implement.

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Gkam84 [9100 posts] 6 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

It doesnt even seem to make any sense to me tho, how can Wiggins be bottom of the form list for the GC section, dont understand  17

And yeh like you say it has become rather easy in places. Hopefully the resetting of credits may weed some out as well

Because the only ones who have form were in the TdS, thats the last 5 stages, after that its in alphabetical order

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Gkam84 [9100 posts] 6 years ago
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tony_farrelly wrote:

Anyway GKAM we're not trying to weed people out we are trying to attract people in. If we wanted to keep the numbers down we'd charge people to play.

We've got no plans to do that… unless you all want to pay?!!  13

I'm not talking about losing players, i'm just meaning weeding out the people who are very lucky or picking the "easy safe picks" and not taking a chance of break aways and random DS on the off chance they might just stay away

I'd like to see it as hard as possible to get top points, so higher points for break aways and less for sprint and group finishes, plus including mountain top finish points because there are always going to be some randoms up there

Making the game very hard to score points

Also, yeah if this game continues, i wouldn't mind paying for it, as long as your not asking a fortune, £5 a season, something like that  39

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Tony Farrelly [2893 posts] 6 years ago
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Don't tempt us GKam84!!

Yeah I agree we don't want it be easy to get the really big scores, but I don't think you can play it safe and score really big anyway, you can do repectably but you have to put the work in to do better, scoring in the Grand Tours is generally not as easy anyway. We have looked at sticking in all sorts of other points - problem is there that they aren't always available that quickly. So at the Giro we'd have been waiting ages to get the scores in.

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Gkam84 [9100 posts] 6 years ago
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Hey if you do introduce a fee, you might be able to upgrade Dave from peanuts to cashews for pay  4 and the odd can of energy drink when the servers go "nuts"

Yeah i understand the problem waiting for results, but its the biggest race of the year, everyone covering in, including the BBC for a change  39

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dave atkinson [6301 posts] 6 years ago
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We're always looking at the way the game is scored, and we've got some ideas for next season to better reward people who specifically do well in a stage. but like tony says, it needs to be stuff we can easily find out from the offical results, and those vary wildly.

going on form will only get you so far: by the time someone's been doing well enough to build up a decent form score, their good streak may well be over. And it won't help you pick the climbers after five flat stages...

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rbx [226 posts] 6 years ago
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A UI request: For rider stats pop-ups, can we go back to the old method of hovering to see stats rather than clicking on the info button? Makes things much faster and really reduces the number of clicks when browsing through a set of riders.

Cheers!

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dave atkinson [6301 posts] 6 years ago
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rbx wrote:

A UI request: For rider stats pop-ups, can we go back to the old method of hovering to see stats rather than clicking on the info button? Makes things much faster and really reduces the number of clicks when browsing through a set of riders.

Cheers!

doesn't work on mobile devices though.

when the mobile site arrives, i'll switch it back...

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sanderville [350 posts] 6 years ago
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stewieatb wrote:

To my mind form should be based on the last 5 stages contested rather than the last 5 that happened, but I guess that's harder to implement.

At least this way the form button can be a bum steer for the lzay.

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pward [88 posts] 6 years ago
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even the Sky jerseys have gone Jungle Green - nice touch  3

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