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How quickly after the end of the Giro will the Fantasy scores be finalized? I had been avoiding putting Contador on my team because I was under the impression that all his points would be taken away retroactively should the CAS rule against him. Now I'm re-reading the rules and it appears that once the Fantasy scores are finalized, there is no danger of losing those points.

This could make a big difference in how I pick my teams for upcoming races as well. There are known dopers who could put in a very good showing, but as long as the sanctions don't come until after the Fantasy scoring is set, it seems like having some EPO or Clenbuterol on your roster is actually a good thing.

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 4 years ago
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After each day, if he scores points we get points, if he gets chucked out 2moro, we still have all the points accrued

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TheBigMong [212 posts] 4 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

After each day, if he scores points we get points, if he gets chucked out 2moro, we still have all the points accrued

That's certainly not how I read the rules.

See here:

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Disqualifications and suspensions: if a rider is disqualified or suspended during a race then their points tally will be zeroed for that race, for all the stages if it's a stage race. The scores and rankings for each race will be finalised once the race is completed, and we will not revisit them retrospectively should a rider be suspended later in the season.

So if a rider won 10 stages but gets canned before the last stage, all the points from those 10 stages of the race are nullified.

It sure looks like a rider is in the clear the second the overall race ends. I'm just trying to figure out if there is any lag time between when the race ends, and when the scores are set in stone.

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 4 years ago
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Yeah, but he's not being judged on the Giro, its on last years TDF, so long as he dont test positive for anything in the Giro, then those results should stand

Plus CAS as going to rule after the Giro and before the TDF, so once the race is finished, then scores stand

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TheBigMong [212 posts] 4 years ago
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I disagree with your first comment. If they they rule against him, he would be placed under suspension, which would be retroactive and would include this year's Giro. In "real life" anything he's competed in and won in the mean time would be nullified. Andy Schleck would be declared the winner of the 2010 TDF and whomever takes 2nd in the 2011 Giro would be bumped up to first in the record books.

I guess it's a moot point though... in this day and age, we can't hold up the doling out of Fantasy points every time someone is under investigation, or we'd never have any clear-cut winners. So the suspension/DQ clause in the Fantasy rules really doesn't really mean much when it comes to doping.

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 4 years ago
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Sorry, i may have miss phrased that,

I mean we're not going to lose points on the Giro as long as he's not caught and chucked out of it before the end

I know if CAS say "cheat" then he'll lose the Giro 11 title, if he wins. But as long as the Giro is finished then our points stand, thats why the "we will not revisit them retrospectively should a rider be suspended later in the season." is in place

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dave atkinson [6144 posts] 4 years ago
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CAS won't be ruling while the Giro is on. So Contador won't lose any points for this year's Giro based on that ruling. If he gets DQed during the race for something that happens during the race, then he loses all his points for all the stages, and I have to spend ages updating all the scores. So let's all pray that doesn't happen, eh.

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TheBigMong [212 posts] 4 years ago
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This does bring another question to mind...

If you have a rider on your squad on the day that a suspension is handed down, does the rider just vanish from Fantasy Cycling, along with their credit value? That would be a pretty good motivator not to have AC on your squad on the eve of June 3rd. I don't think I could stand having my team value reduced by something like 45 credits, and still being faced with the task of buying a new GC guy.

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PJ McNally [589 posts] 4 years ago
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There's clearly a lot of budding DS's out there!

I have AC on my team though, so I'll keep an eye on this...