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Anyone done it - thoughts?

I'm just looking at a Cairbull aero TT helmet with a built in magnetic visor for £18 with free postage.

That way better than anything I can either get second hand here!

I realise the CE mark is most likely rubbish, not that it bothers me, it's not like a helmet is actually going to be of much protection in anything more than a light bump anyway - but lets not start the helmet debate.

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Welsh boy [517 posts] 3 months ago
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It’s cheap for a reason and if you accept that then it sounds like a good buy 

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Chez_worldwide [28 posts] 3 months ago
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I bought a jersey from an Ali Express trader called "Spexcel"- I just wanted something to wear on the turbo. Zip broke first time I put it on. When I requested a refund they suggested I fix the zip with a pair of pliers. I'm still trying to get my money back now. 

Don't buy a helmet unless you know it's going to do it's job the one time you'll need it to. If they are willing to fake a CE mark there'll be other corners they'll cut during manufacture and testing. A broken jersey zip is one thing, a piece of safety equipment is another. Although it's your head and you can do what you want with it.

edit- spelling.

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Canyon48 [933 posts] 3 months ago
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Chez_worldwide wrote:

 Although it's your head and you can do what you want with it.

Haha, that made me chuckle!

Seeing as it's less than £18, I bought the helmet. I'm more concerned about the build quality rather than the safety aspect (even appropriately tested helmets are only actually tested at 12mph). After all, my main concern when time trialling isn't hitting my head because of a crash, it's being squished by a car/lorry.

In about 4 weeks I should have a helmet to report back about!

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hawkinspeter [1863 posts] 3 months ago
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I bought a cheap helmet from AliExpress and it seems functional (luckily I haven't tested it's ability to absorb bumps).

I got a carbon fibre integrated stem/handlebar and it was absolute rubbish - just got my money back as it cracked when I was installing it.

I've bought lots of electronics through AliExpress as well and they've all been good, though I had an ultrabook pack up after only a year.

The problem with buying direct from China is that you have to be prepared to throw it away if there's any problem with it. Nowadays, I wouldn't buy anything carbon fibre from there as the quality control is lacking with the cheap stuff.

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Leeroy_Silk [171 posts] 3 months ago
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Hello Wellsprop,

Another entry for not wading in on the helmet debate... After watching this video a few years back it made me make an ornament of my old skate lid and replace it with something a little more cycling orientated. Although this was from my BMX days when I’d only wear a helmet when I thought I’d probably crash!

 

https://www.ridebmx.com/videos/arfs-certified-vs-non-certified-helmet-test/

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Butty [262 posts] 3 months ago
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If you are buying it for aero properties then it sounds a great deal!

Just make sure you are handy with araldite though.

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Canyon48 [933 posts] 3 months ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

I bought a cheap helmet from AliExpress and it seems functional (luckily I haven't tested it's ability to absorb bumps).

I got a carbon fibre integrated stem/handlebar and it was absolute rubbish - just got my money back as it cracked when I was installing it.

I've bought lots of electronics through AliExpress as well and they've all been good, though I had an ultrabook pack up after only a year.

The problem with buying direct from China is that you have to be prepared to throw it away if there's any problem with it. Nowadays, I wouldn't buy anything carbon fibre from there as the quality control is lacking with the cheap stuff.

I certainly wouldn't buy any carbon fibre components that weren't from a reputable manufacturer!

As for non vital stuff, lights, mounts, helmets, glasses etc, I'll give it a go :p

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fenix [983 posts] 3 months ago
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I'd rather wear no helmet rather than a cheap one off eBay. How do you know that the the thing doesn't splinter into eye piercing shards in s crash ?

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Rapha Nadal [834 posts] 3 months ago
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£18 for a helmet from some knock off shop.  You people crack me up.

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cyclisto [387 posts] 3 months ago
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For the cheap helmet haters please remember that helmets in Australia are sold for 5 Australian dollars from machines. They are thick as a brick so I would trust my head in them more than a 150£ superlight pro helmet.

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fenix [983 posts] 3 months ago
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It's not the price that concerns me - more the unverifiable safety rating....

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Canyon48 [933 posts] 3 months ago
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I'm more just interested what experience people have had with aliexpress (rather than wether this helmet will be protective or not!).

I think it's worth pointing out that I could just cycle with no helmet and no-one would be too shocked :p

I'm really not concerned about the lid being protective, just need something without too many vents!

Plus the integrated visor looks cool.

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hawkinspeter [1863 posts] 3 months ago
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I've had no problem with AliExpress and I'd rate it as similar to buying from EBay. I've had no problem with the helmet that I bought from there.

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alansmurphy [1803 posts] 3 months ago
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I buy jerseys from there as I don't want to pay £100 plus and have a pretend guarantee. Have some very good Rapha copies. Also bought some POC shades that I'd challenge anyone to know the difference!

Delivery seems a lot quicker than it used to be too!

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fenix [983 posts] 3 months ago
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With a jersey what's the worst that can happen ?
With protective stuff like glasses or helmets - why would you take chances ?

I've seen some fake Oakleys that look similar but will snap and scar you or worse in a crash.

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Redvee [399 posts] 3 months ago
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I've bought several jersies from AliExpress and been happyt with the quality for £12. I've bought some retro designs, La Vie Claire Mondrian and Renault Elf jersey that I could have bought elsewhere for more but the jersey from AliExpress were less than half price and had full length zip.

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Leviathan [3051 posts] 3 months ago
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I bought a jersey off Aliexpress, and it arrive quite quickly, looked like it was supposed to, fit like it supposed to. It wasn't a modern aero jersey with laser costing £165, but was cheap and just like any polyester jersey you would buy up to 10 years ago.

But...

A few weeks later I had fraud on my credit card, a couple of flights booked with a well know online travel site. It took several days before the items were deleted from my card and a few weeks waiting for declarations before I knew it had gone away. The data was not gleened from my computer. Maybe a coincidence, but I'm not trying again. 

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Boatsie [230 posts] 3 months ago
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My mate split his helmet into 3 completely separate pieces and his Bolle (arms dealer or not) were sufficient of quality to prevent his eye from a puncture. It's your head bro.

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Canyon48 [933 posts] 3 months ago
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Leviathan wrote:

I bought a jersey off Aliexpress, and it arrive quite quickly, looked like it was supposed to, fit like it supposed to. It wasn't a modern aero jersey with laser costing £165, but was cheap and just like any polyester jersey you would buy up to 10 years ago.

But...

A few weeks later I had fraud on my credit card, a couple of flights booked with a well know online travel site. It took several days before the items were deleted from my card and a few weeks waiting for declarations before I knew it had gone away. The data was not gleened from my computer. Maybe a coincidence, but I'm not trying again. 

That's more what I'm concerned about (rather the the quality of the products).

Most peoples experiences are positive, so I was willing to give it a go.

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ClubSmed [674 posts] 3 months ago
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I have had lots of possitive experiences with Aliexpress, there have been a few occasions where the item has got lost in the post but a refund has been easy and straight forward (though you do have to wait till after the estimated delivery window is passed which can be a long time).

Jerseys and bib shorts that I have got from there have been of a pretty good quality and more than good enough for my short commute.

Jackets have not had a good track records with zips so I have given up on those after a couple.

Bike accessories (bells, bags,  are generally very good 

I once bought a helmet off there as it was a great colour match to the bike that I keep at my parents. The helmet looked great but despite the number of vents in it my head was a hot sweaty mess after each ride. For this reason I would not buy one from there again, I think that they are probably just made for looks and weight but not tested for performance (cooling, aerodynamics, etc.).

As far as delivery times are concerned, they seem to vary by quite a margin. Some things seem to appear after just over a week, some things take a couple of months.

I hope this helps.

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Canyon48 [933 posts] 3 months ago
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ClubSmed wrote:

I have had lots of possitive experiences with Aliexpress, there have been a few occasions where the item has got lost in the post but a refund has been easy and straight forward (though you do have to wait till after the estimated delivery window is passed which can be a long time).

Jerseys and bib shorts that I have got from there have been of a pretty good quality and more than good enough for my short commute.

Jackets have not had a good track records with zips so I have given up on those after a couple.

Bike accessories (bells, bags,  are generally very good 

I once bought a helmet off there as it was a great colour match to the bike that I keep at my parents. The helmet looked great but despite the number of vents in it my head was a hot sweaty mess after each ride. For this reason I would not buy one from there again, I think that they are probably just made for looks and weight but not tested for performance (cooling, aerodynamics, etc.).

As far as delivery times are concerned, they seem to vary by quite a margin. Some things seem to appear after just over a week, some things take a couple of months.

I hope this helps.

Certainly helps, thanks  1

I am curious about delivery times... A few weeks ago I bought two small items from eBay, one from China and the other from the UK. Somehow the item that came via China Airmail arrived in 5 days (one day before the item from the UK).

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alansmurphy [1803 posts] 3 months ago
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fenix wrote:

With a jersey what's the worst that can happen ? With protective stuff like glasses or helmets - why would you take chances ? I've seen some fake Oakleys that look similar but will snap and scar you or worse in a crash.

 

ABsolutely get your point.

 

To be fair though the POCopy I have seem very close, full rimmed and interchangeable lens, plenty of flex. There's a hell of a lot of brand name mark up on some of those £3 bits of plastic when you buy genuine!

 

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CygnusX1 [802 posts] 3 months ago
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I ordered some cheap chinese stuff once.

The delivery was fast.

Gave me food poisoning though

 

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risoto [62 posts] 3 months ago
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I don't understand how one can even think about buying carbon bikes and parts from totally unknown sources in China. It takes expertise to produce carbon. There was an article on an american web site about copy  carbon bikes - among others a Trek or Specialized costing around 5.000 pounds retail that was sold for less than half that price. Two guys almost got killed and they were guys that had the money to buy the real deal. One broke his handlebar while just going downhill - he was very very lucky  to survive. The other example was a guy just riding along and the frame broke. He also barely survived.

It appears that some employes had taken photos of the production proces and starting producing their own carbon frames and parts. Of course they didn't have the knowledge nor the experise to produce anything safe.

I would never compromise on a helmet either. You might just end up in a wheelchair instead of just walking away. The lure of a discount is strong and its your life, but use your brain while you have it.

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Yorkshire wallet [1977 posts] 3 months ago
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risoto wrote:

I don't understand how one can even think about buying carbon bikes and parts from totally unknown sources in China. It takes expertise to produce carbon. There was an article on an american web site about copy  carbon bikes - among others a Trek or Specialized costing around 5.000 pounds retail that was sold for less than half that price. Two guys almost got killed and they were guys that had the money to buy the real deal. One broke his handlebar while just going downhill - he was very very lucky  to survive. The other example was a guy just riding along and the frame broke. He also barely survived.

It appears that some employes had taken photos of the production proces and starting producing their own carbon frames and parts. Of course they didn't have the knowledge nor the experise to produce anything safe.

I would never compromise on a helmet either. You might just end up in a wheelchair instead of just walking away. The lure of a discount is strong and its your life, but use your brain while you have it.

Some chinese stuff is ok and one frame becomes many brands with new paint jobs. Most china direct stuff I've bought, from arcade joystick kits to bibsets has been fine. It's not 'as good' but good enough. I doubt anything Planet X sells is any better than Aliexpress as I've had a bibset I've worn regulary for 3 years and it's still going strong for £17. Then again as you may have guessed, I'm a tightwad.

You're always going to hear some horror story about a chinese frame that someone nearly died using. It's not in the mainstream industry's interest for people to be buying cheap stuff. My chinese carbon is doing just fine after 2 years on some really shit roads that have had my hands going numb after 30 minutes.

 

 

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Canyon48 [933 posts] 3 months ago
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I certainly wouldn't buy a carbon frame or carbon wheels not from a reputable manufacturer!

As for the helmet, well too many people seem o be assuming a helmet is actually going to be of any significant help... (I do always wear a helmet, much for the same reason I wear gloves, if I fall off it'll prevent too much scarring and probably a bit of bruising - at the same time I realise, if I get run over, a helmet isn't going to "save my life").

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matthewn5 [1190 posts] 3 months ago
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I wouldn't compromise on glasses. Dark lenses that have zero UV protection will fry your eyes. And you only get one pair of eyes. Seriously. I have enough problems already with my eyes.

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Canyon48 [933 posts] 3 months ago
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matthewn5 wrote:

I wouldn't compromise on glasses. Dark lenses that have zero UV protection will fry your eyes. And you only get one pair of eyes. Seriously. I have enough problems already with my eyes.

It's a bit hit or miss with sunglasses, Panorama looked into it and found a lot of fake sunglasses provided 100% UV A B and C protection. I tested my fake Oakleys (bought them for 3 quid in Turkey because mine broke on holiday) on a UV machine at work and the blocked all UV light. Obviously some provide little to no protection.

As I'm only going to be using the helmet occasionally, for short TT's, I can't say I'm overly worried...

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Peowpeowpeowlasers [604 posts] 3 months ago
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wellsprop wrote:

I certainly wouldn't buy any carbon fibre components that weren't from a reputable manufacturer! As for non vital stuff, lights, mounts, helmets, glasses etc, I'll give it a go :p

Brilliant, so you'll buy cheapo lights with batteries and electronics designed by heaven knows who.  Electronics that could easily burn your house down.  And you'll buy cheap glasses that may fracture on impact and blind you (good glasses don't do this).

But you won't buy cheap carbon components because that's dodgy.

Comments like yours are why we need regulations and standards.  And laws to protect the stupid from themselves.

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Canyon48 [933 posts] 3 months ago
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Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:
wellsprop wrote:

I certainly wouldn't buy any carbon fibre components that weren't from a reputable manufacturer! As for non vital stuff, lights, mounts, helmets, glasses etc, I'll give it a go :p

Brilliant, so you'll buy cheapo lights with batteries and electronics designed by heaven knows who.  Electronics that could easily burn your house down.  And you'll buy cheap glasses that may fracture on impact and blind you (good glasses don't do this).

But you won't buy cheap carbon components because that's dodgy.

Comments like yours are why we need regulations and standards.  And laws to protect the stupid from themselves.

I think there's an important distinction to be made between safety critical components (such as wheels and frames and accessories (glasses and lights).

I also forgot to mention I don't actually wear my fake Oakleys on my bike (I wear my Dhb glasses) :p Nor have I bought any cheap lights from China - not saying I wouldn't though (if I wanted a super bright light for mountain biking for example).

Suppose both were sub-standard; the bike wheel failed when hitting a pothole and the bike glasses shattered on impact - both have fairly nasty results. The main difference is, the chance of crashing face first and the glasses breaking is vastly lower than the chance of hitting a pothole causing a wheel failure. So it's understandable a lot of people would take that risk with a pair of glasses (again, I never said I wear fake glasses cycling!).

I must admit, I tend to be ridiculously OTT with charging Lion batteries - I won't leave them (or their chargers) plugged in unattended.

 

 

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