Fantasy Vuelta chat
I've picked my team of random picks, just like my lotto numbers.. And I've created a league, number 16279..
What's the betting I don't get out of the bottom half of the league again? :''(
Yep, got my team together. Hope to do better this time. Doubt I'd beat my prologue score though as I had 4 riders in the top ten then!
unlikely i'll be in the top 5% again. ever again. unless i put some kind of cheat/easter egg thing in where you transfer in certain riders and you get a 1,000 point bonus 
Shall we make this thread sticky as the place to talk about all things Fantasy Vuelta?
Might as well…
I haven't picked my team yet, made the mistake of not concentrating at the start last time out + the Vuelta format is a bit different from the Tour with the TTT start at a ludicrous hour and climbing featuring really early as well.
Thomas Lovkvist was I think the only ever-present in my Tour team- not the biggest point scorer mind. Might have him in this time too*… I'm a big believer in the importance of continuity in building team spirit 
*as long as he doesn't cost too much
My team keeps vanishing! I've picked them twice now and when I go back to check, I've got an empty team sheet and 150 credits unspent...
Is someone so afraid of Team Hot Sauce that I'm being nobbled before the start?
Team disappeared quicker than a photo of a fridge full of Lances blood being watched by 'Roid Landis. Whats going on?
The Man In Black.
Sorry chaps, we'll get Dave out with the magic spanner in the morning to find out what happened!
do you press 'make changes'?
cause if you don't, it doesn't save your team
do you press 'make changes'?cause if you don't, it doesn't save your team
It took me three attempts to work that out btw
I know its only a game and not serious or anything, though the first prize is worth having, but I don't like the transfer rule.
To me you should pick a team of 9 riders and they end up being good or bad or fall off early on and retire. In real life you would be unable to change riders.
Good luck to all the participants.
Yes picked my team based on an individual TT prologue. That will teach me. Are we allowed to pick a totally different team before the start of the race?
No Gerraint Thomas to give me a huge pick off in this one.
Lets see how things go (badly).
But I too hadn't seen the "Press this to save changes" button so I got another go at selecting a team. Not sure it will make any difference!
Feel free to hop into the "All you Haters" league:# 16300
1st timer on the Fantasy league, not planning on changing riders. I guess I am a purist that way.
I was kind of surprised to see Pelizotti on the list. I thought he'd been busted for doping & was serving a ban.
ANyone know the story there?
~BD
team picked and ready to roll 
I love my Nanolight 
Well, this is exciting, have not got a clue what I am meant to do but I have picked my team and I am looking forward to the event
hhmmm Juan Jose Cobo is now not riding, but I'm not
able to transfer in a new climber 
I love my Nanolight 
hhmmm Juan Jose Cobo is now not riding, but I'm not
able to transfer in a new climber
really? what happens when you try? if there's a problem we'll try and fix it
Fantasy league for Team SKY fans - 16359
all welcome
dave
Revo - tried clicking on 'pick team'? I logged in as you (the power!) And it worked for me...
Hi Dave,
When are you likely to update the team lists, as riders like Rein Taaramae (Cof) were withdrawn and replaced by Rémi Pauriol (I think) about a week ago?
Really looking forward to this game starting on Sunday!
Cheers, Jon
Exercise physiologist, endurance coach, bike geek!
Really looking forward to this game starting on Sunday!
Cheers, Jon
The Team Time Trial may have an evening start, but it will still (just) be Saturday evening local time
In real life you would be unable to change riders.
Agreed. I stuck with my team through the TdF, mostly because I was too lazy to transfer riders in-and-out, but I prefer to see myself as 'loyal' and to use bikedog's term also 'a purist'. I'm planning to extend my romantic notion to the Vuelta too. If anyone else fancies a league where transfers are eschewed I've set up 'The Purists' - 16377. All welcome to join, and on gentleman's trust that you don't sneak in the mid-Vuelta flyer
Fantastic, here is a pretty up to date start list:
http://vuelta.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&edit...
Jon
Exercise physiologist, endurance coach, bike geek!
just updated the rider list. if any of your riders have been greyed out, just go to 'pick team' to pick someone else...
just updated the rider list. if any of your riders have been greyed out, just go to 'pick team' to pick someone else...
Yep, lost 3 of my original chosen few like that.
TL is a real bargain. But I think you need spaniards in this fantasy. And I do not know any good spaniards , , , Fernando Torres. . . does he ride a bike?
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Valverde's Spanish and pretty useful on a bike. What a Piti he can't defend his Vuelta title because of that little blood bag bother 
As we need to pick 2 allrounders, we could really do with a few more to pick from . . . like double the number of KM, PC and GC picks, as we only need 1 of them. But its a bit late to make TL an allrounder now
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Beyond the obvious ones my knowledge of Spanish riders is pretty slim - I'm treating the first week as a learning excercise on that one - I reckon that because rider values will change as the race progresses we'll pretty soon get an idea of which Spanish riders are worth their place on the team. Hopefully
Lots of all rounders got the chop from provisional squads which is why we're not left with many. Agreed, it's a bit of a pain but we can't shift riders from one category to another now, we'd be in database hell if we did...
Blackhound wrote:In real life you would be unable to change riders.Agreed. I stuck with my team through the TdF, mostly because I was too lazy to transfer riders in-and-out, but I prefer to see myself as 'loyal' and to use bikedog's term also 'a purist'. I'm planning to extend my romantic notion to the Vuelta too. If anyone else fancies a league where transfers are eschewed I've set up 'The Purists' - 16377. All welcome to join, and on gentleman's trust that you don't sneak in the mid-Vuelta flyer
Maybe for the next one we'll do a separate 'purist' league. Actually i might even be able to do it for this one if i get my thinking cap on...
I mean an overall listing, not a league. One that checks if you've made any transfers.
I mean an overall listing, not a league. One that checks if you've made any transfers.
That'd be great Dave. Is there a 'cut-off' point for the Pro Teams? Can they substitute riders up right up to the start of the race? I guess so. That way they, and us Fantasy Vuelta players too, at least get to start with a full team of 9.
I probably know the answer to this question, but I'm going to ask it anyway.
Is it possible to have more than one team in the Vuelta? I fancy doing the Purists League and the overall competition.
From what I can see it's only possible to have one team because it's tied to your Login ID.
Am I missing something obvious??
That'd be great Dave. Is there a 'cut-off' point for the Pro Teams?
yup, as many transfers as you like before the TTT
the purists' overall ranking will probably go live second week, since i most likely won't have time to do it today and then we're all off to eurobike 
Is it possible to have more than one team in the Vuelta? I fancy doing the Purists League and the overall competition.From what I can see it's only possible to have one team because it's tied to your Login ID.
Am I missing something obvious??
nope, that's the way it is.
if you have another email address you couuld set up another user account?
Thanks for the confirmation Dave. Thought that would be the answer.
How are the price changes going to work?
Will it be a percentage change in ownership (up or down) which will lead to a change in there 'credit' price?
Or are there fixed 'thresholds' for the number of owners which will then trigger a change in price?
Finally, when (time of day) and how often (once per stage/day) will price changes take place?
Cheers, Jon
Exercise physiologist, endurance coach, bike geek!
changes are based on popularity and score versus value, and also how far into the vuelta we are. once per stage, when the scores are updated. so if someone's done well and you want to sign 'em up, get in quick before we update the game 
can't tell you exactly how the prices will change, it's a secret*
*I've forgotten and i'm about to go home
Is there a Billy No Mates league like there was in the TDF? I have a title to defend. And I've still got no mates...
technically i think davep's league (16279) is the billy no mates one, since he started the last one 
price changes will only affect those wanting to buy popular/strong riders right? If some of my five pointer domestiques suddenly shoot up in value on the transfer market will I find that my 150 point budget has suddenly been bust and I am forced to transfer them out? Say it ain't so! Which I'm sure it aint… but just in case
heh. if they go up in value you can sell them for more money and have more than 150 credits to spend 
Most excellent. Hoped you'd say that
Trying to make some last minute changes to my team and the 'pick team' tab has vanished?
I understand that transfers can be made until 8pm tonight (Saturday) so I assume the mods muct be playing around with the database and normal service will be resumed later?
Exercise physiologist, endurance coach, bike geek!
I can't seem to transfer out riders that aren't selected to race. What's going on there? Thought you could transfer up til 2000hrs tonight?
Can anyone help please?
It looks like it is some problem with the 'transfer window timings' as I have just had this message...
"Your team isn't complete, but at the moment there's no transfer window open. Transfers can be made between 6pm and 11am. Please check back then to pick your team".
The rules state that the transfer window is open till 8pm on Saturday, so hopefully they will sort it out by then!
Exercise physiologist, endurance coach, bike geek!
Looks like the default transfer time has kicked in, and is overriding not just last minute changes, but new team entries too, in spite of the "by 8pm Saturday" line in the rules.
Just created an empty team by the look of things. Set up a new account as I thought "maybe I should just pick them and not press the make-changes-button".
Since I apparently must press that button to commit a team, which will only lead to an empty team and the message in the post above, it looks like I'm stuck either way.
Will this be fixed in time?

Francois the Postman - I have tried that too (twice) and got the same problem.
If the transfer window reopens again at 6pm we may be ok, as the start time for the stage is 8pm.
Gingers crossed. I have emailed the guys at road.cc, but as it is a Saturday, I don't expect them to reply for a few days.
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Good point, but it would be a real laugh if we could swap/enter 2 riders!
Lanterne Rouge, here we come...

All fixed now - Thanks Dave!
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I reckon Thomas Lockqvwisst will shoot up in value when he gets takes over the yellow, sorry, gold, sorry red jersey.
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Superb avatar pic Froncois
apologies for the cock up with the cut-off for picking a team, my bad... changed the start time in one bit of code but not another
when i make my 2 changes to the team. does my budget have to equal 150 or less or am i able to run with riders whos total now equals 159.
theres a glitch in the tranfer window. when you press pick changes it deletes your team so you cant make any transfers.
when i make my 2 changes to the team. does my budget have to equal 150 or less or am i able to run with riders whos total now equals 159.
yeah you can spend whatever you earn 
theres a glitch in the tranfer window. when you press pick changes it deletes your team so you cant make any transfers.
looking into this davey boy. though it worked okay for me
Just spotted the link to 'Purists' on the overall standings page. Nice touch - thanks Dave! Nice touch.
Thanks again for your help yesterday dave_atkinson, it paid off big time as I am (joint) first overall after the TTT!
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148th place team after the TTT, slow and steady, lets hope a few of my more random choices come good 
If I transfer out a greyed in rider now will I still be in the Purist league?
Jayme
Bugger, Bugger, Bugger... Getting a big fat ZERO isn't unusual for so I didn't get too upset about the 1st stage. But, getting the same for stage 2 got me checking my team... Guess who hadn't hit the Make Changes button? DOH!
Hi all, we've got a slight technical hitch here with the scoring so can we ask you NOT to make any transfers ahead of Stage 3 until we've fixed it & we will let you know as soon as we have.
If you did make any transfers to your team before 10.15 let us know.
Normal service will be resumed as quickly as possible.
picked team hit make changes and nothing no team and no money help
can i be reset please
Lesley
Why does the table that shows my/other player points for stage 2 include the rider line-up for stage 3?
That can't be right. It means that you can't see where some of your points have been earned! Can you change this please? Thanks!
I made transfers for stage 2 before 11am and the value was bang on 150, yet i scored no points. The transfers are listed for stage 2 but my team for stage 2 still shows the same riders as stage 1. Can you look into. Cheers.
AndyD
are the results OK? Yesterday I had Cavendish and today morning I changed it by Van Avermaet. However, I've just realized that for the points of yesterday, you took my rider for today Van Avermaet, instead of Cavendish which I had yesterday...
I made my transfers for Stage 3 before the Stage 2 results were on-line and I seem to have been credited with double points for Stage 2, 104 instead of 52.
Not complaining mind as it has boosted me by 300 positions into the top 100.
The same occurs with my team: I had Cavendish yesterday; I changed it by A.Davis and I didn't get the points of Cavendish from yesterday.
The results are not totally correct, are they?
We know there's an issue with people who had made their stage 3 transfers before we discovered there was a glitch in the game - we will be correcting these so your Stage 2 score reflects your Stage 2 team, but it may take a little time.
Thanks Simon - thought I played a blinder on stage 2 and ended up with 30 points?!
WeaverValleyWannaBs thinks his current team is wrong and that he did press the 'make changes' button.On the list of his points for stage 2, he still has Cancellara who he sold after stage 1!
I was coming here to report that if you add up the points behind my riders from stage 2, you only end up with half the points hat I seem to have scored. Then I saw the comment above and I checked a few other people too. Did we all (or more of us) end up with double points for stage 2?
I have got double points, but I can't tell if it is correct, because it has my stage 3 riders listed. WeaverValleyWannaBs has a mixture of stage 1,2 and 3 riders listed on his list of points for stage 2.
To be honest, I liked the Fantasy Tour exactly as it was. I think it has all got too complicated. If it isn't broken don't fix it etc. Next time, can we go back to the original Fantasy Tour format please??
I appear to have the correct points for staage 2 now.
There is another glitch in the riders that are listed for transfers. The team sheet shown has been correct on all stages, but the riders it listed as in and out are incorrect.
Haven't touched Lars Bak at all since I put him in my start list. Yet he has gone out on stage 2 and back in on stage 3 according to my transfer overview. That should have been other riders (again, the actual team sheet for the stages is correct).
Hi,
I have not received my points for Koldo Fernandez on stage 2. Somehow he is not in my team for stage 2. It seems like the technical problems with transfers before stage 3 could have affected my team? Can somebody help me and fix this?
My points for stage 2 list of riders has been changed but it is still incorrect - 1 of my stage 3 riders is still on it!
I still have Manuel Ortega listed wrongly as mine in Stage 2!
This is unacceptable, guys! WeaverValleyWannaBs has only 17 points now for stage 2. He had Mark Cavensish yesterday, but now you don't have him on WeaverValleyWannaBs' points for Stage 2 list. I know this is wrong.
Please can you look into this, and assure me that you will fix these problems? It is certainly taking all the fun out of the game, and with prizes at stake too, you really have to get this right!
I was tempted when John Lee Augustyn pulled out to break my purist status but have resisted and will send out 8.
To Speedy1319 and anyone else having problems, we are aware of the issues and they are being addressed, unfortunately it's happened on a day when most of the team is en route to Eurobike but as soon as we have a chance we will ensure the scores reflect the various transfers etc actually made.
Hi all,
I just tried to transfer out two of my riders who abandoned (grey riders), and the screen said i had 4 transfers available. But after moving in 2 riders to take the grey riders' places, suddenly I have no transfers left! What happened to my other 2 transfers? (The ones I would have had if I had no abandoned riders on my team.)
Thanks,
rcs500
Can we make transfers? I don't seem to have any
I was tempted when John Lee Augustyn pulled out to break my purist status but have resisted and will send out 8.
That's the spirit! Proud of you
Hi, 2 of my riders are greyed out, which I thought meant they have retired but according to the offical Vuelta site David Zabriskie & Carlos Barredo are not in the "Withdrawals" list, even though I have 4 transfers available. Looks like rcs500 may have the same issue?
Cheers
Martin.
Right, we're looking in to any transfer issues right now - I've got Zabriskie in my team and he isn't appearing greyed out
Road.cc - you are doing a great job with this game, don't get worry about the complainers, there are bound to be glitches in a game with 198 riders (and over 800 teams) competing in so many competitions all at the same time.
I for one like the changes you have made from the Fantasy Tour game (but then, I am doing pretty well, 7th overall - Woooo!).
Jon
Exercise physiologist, endurance coach, bike geek!
hi guys - sorry about the glitches. we feel your pain, and instead of riding bikes on the eurobike demo day i'm in the press centre trying to fix it over the wires. stay tuned. the problems should be ironed out for the next window. we'll probably revert to the original system for transfers.
i've reinstated the old transfer page, there's a link to the new one too if thatt was working okay for you. let us know if you still have problems in the next transfer window...
Still no points for Stage 2! Can anyone help?
I'm sure we can d198494
HI Dave- great site. What is the story with greyed out riders? I'm doing pretty well with the 5 I have left, but 5 of my picks never made the final start (eg, Vino).
~BD
The transfer window has not opened. Is there another glitch?
The transfer window has not opened. Is there another glitch?
Thanks for flagging that up - we'll have a look.
I can't do the changes. When I click over "Transfers", this message is showed:
"No transfer window open
You cannot currently make transfers. Transfer windows run from 6pm to 11am on the day of the next stage" and now is 10:07pm...
My mum speedy origanlly chose a team. it was full of people who she liked and who are kind to their mothers. when i saw the team i bursted out laughing at her team because it was never gonna win. she changed parts of her team. turns out that one of the guys who she kept is 1st in the GC. unbelievable.
i have the same problem. i can't do my transfers. it also says no transfer window.
please someone sort it out.
I have the same problem with transfers. . . . and boy do I need to makesome.
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how do we get to the OLD transfer window? all i can get on my team page is no transfer window open
There is nothing wrong with choosing the 'good guys', son! Philippe Gilbert is liked by everyone......and he is a great 'Classics' rider, too! Yes, I chose him for both reasons. Discuss.
Haven't been able to log in for a couple of days and now realised about the transfer window...another day with a team of only 7 riders (a bit like Team SKY!)
LOL
can someonecheck the results for stage 5. No points have been added for Wouter welandt he came forth on the stage behind winner Tyler Farrar. Can someone helpme out with this please.think there was a case of mistaken identity with Weylandt and Tosatto .
We'll check, Dave, but rather unhelpfully right now the Vuelta website is showing the GC where it should have the result for Stage 5.
The game results are based on what was on the Vuelta website earlier.

while your checking that can you please check the points given to the Lantern Rouge for stage 5. Serafin Martinez came in last but he only got 5 points for leading the mountains classification. He should have got 15 points including the 10 for the Lantern.
Hi, I am trying to make a transfer but it is saying
"Replace Jose Vicente GARCIA with Mickael DELAGE
This transfer will take you over budget. Please choose another transfer."
Garcia has 4.8, Delage has 5.5 and I have 0.7 credits. Is this a glitch or am I missing something?
Thanks
Mini_Wiggo0157 still has incorrect points for stage 2. He had Mark Cavendish on that stage, but that bit has totally disappeared from the points scored. Can this be looked into, please?
Re the two queries from yesterday's Stage 5.
Davemchol - correct, Tossato was initially given 4th as a result of wrong ID, correct 4th place was his team mate Weylandt, so he now has the points instead.
Etsuko Hama - unlike our Fantasy TDF game, in this one the Lanterne Rouge is the last rider in GC, not on stage (see rules), so sorry, no points for Martinez - in any event, official results we have show Riblon as last on yesterday's stage.

Hi, I put this on 2 days ago and didn't get a reply so had to put up with a second best choice
"Hi, I am trying to make a transfer but it is saying
"Replace Jose Vicente GARCIA with Mickael DELAGE
This transfer will take you over budget. Please choose another transfer."
Garcia has 4.8, Delage has 5.5 and I have 0.7 credits. Is this a glitch or am I missing something?
Thanks"
This is happening again as I have a rider at 4.8, credit of 0.1 and want a rider worth 4.9. Is it because their values have been changed 'in the background' but these are not showing up yet?
IMPORTANT: St 10 TRANSFERS - please could you hold off making Stage 10 transfers while we sort out an issue with the database. Thanks! Scores will be updated later this evening.

Does the glitch have anything to do with us not getting the last place points for Dean on stage 9?
Im havent made any transfers yet so im checking my position in the purists table which is the same as the normal league is this being looked at?
Thanks
Martin
you're #593 in the full league and #206 in the purist's league, so not the same place at all...
I have not been given my points 4 stage 12 yet but, most people have.
please sort this out for me?
Seems a bit odd… we'll have a look. If you didn't get 'em you will
Cheers, I can see it now, think it must have been that the previous PC I was using still has Internet Explorer 6!! as I could not see each stage points but I can now im using Firefox.
i didn't get any points for stage 12 either. seems strange since its worked perfectly till now.
Same with me - I do not see any points for my team for stage 12 . . .
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thanks man.
Hi guys, couple of queries about my team. I transfered Denis Galimzyanov into my team for Stage 12 but somehow Julian Dean appeared there instead. Also way back on stage 2 I had Matt Goss in my team but it registered as Xavier Tondo. It won't make a huge amount of difference but could someone take a look please! Ta in advance!
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Evening guys. Because of Igor Anton's intimate moment with the tarmac today, I should have had three transfers (and it said as much on the transfer page). Trouble is that I swapped Anton and 1 other rider and I am now told I have used all my available transfers.
Any ideas on what I can do here? Thanks.
Hi ourdave, sounds like a job for, err, our Dave, who's otherwise engaged tonight but we'll get him on it first thing, so check back ahead of the 11am deadline.

I as well had four transfers available today due to ANTON and GALIMZYANOV, but after I made three it said I had no transfers left. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks! I'm having a lot of fun with this, so thank you again!
I had exactly the same problem as ourdave - I thought Anton's demise should have left me with 3 transfers instead of the 2 I found. Gutted for the rider, mind - only 7km from the finish was even worse.
same here only used two out of the three transfers available thanks
and again, same here. It said I had three transfers but I made two and then it said I had used all my transfers. Not sure I'll get a chance to change again tomorrow.
Be really good if you stuck with the basic system as used in the fantasy tdf without the varying score values, it just seems to have cocked everything up. Still showing weird transfer goings on with my team, with riders subbed in twice but never moved out according to my team page...
Ive had no points since stage 9 can anyone help????
Cheers
Hm - i managed to make three, but i did it on the javascript based picker, so you could try that page, there's a link on the transfers page.
Apologies that we've had some issues with the game. It's the transfer system rather than the changing values that's been the issue but we're working to fix it... come next year when we roll out the shiny new season-long game it'll be a thing of wonder, so bear with us and sorry for the glitches...
Same problem here, supposed to have three transfers due to GALIMZYANOV but have just been told I've had my two transfers and that's it! BTW, what happened to Galimzyanov as didn't find out yesterday during Eurosport's coverage, and can't find anything on the race reports here or CyclingNews?
Not doing too bad, at 505 and didn't even start team until Stage 6 (was on holiday until Stage 4, and then forgot to save team for Stage 5, doh!).
Climbing slowly since 2007...
Ah unfortunately Transfers page won't let me try javascript option, just says Transfers already complete....
hi can only make 2 out of 3 transfers has this been sorted out yet please? only 15 minutes before the deadline
I should have 3 transfers today due to Igor Anton's tarmac liaisons.... swapped him out and now should have 2 left..... but only can complete 1...... 
We're working on this, but as you've probably already guessed the fix isn't going to be ready for the start of today's stage. It will be fixed as soon as possible though and hopefully today's transfer issues will be resolved too, so that you get the riders you'd wanted for today's stage
come next year when we roll out the shiny new season-long game it'll be a thing of wonde
I think I have just wet my pants, twice.
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i've been in with my code spanner to knock a few cogs and suck my teeth a bit, and the transfers issue should be resolved, apologies to anyone that was affected yesterday,
can anyone advise on how to get my points from stage 10 till now? my team is still sitting on stage 9
can anyone advise on how to get my points from stage 10 till now? my team is still sitting on stage 9
you managed to pick daniele bennati three times somehow... anyway, now it's fixed 
A bit late for this one, but maybe something for future fantasy GTs that you are running:
It might be nice to show the daily stage rankings too (so you can see how godawful your choice for that stage was compared to the rest
)
For instance: if you clicked on any stage number (on the left) in your points scored overview, it could list the Team totals for that. Right no you can see what you scored, but there is no indication anywhere how it compares to Teams picked by other players, on that day.
And yes, I'm enjoying it. Thanks for running it.

I am in the purist league, 29th, one of my riders has withdrawn, can I replace him and still be in the purist league?
WeaverValleyWannaBs Mini_Wiggo0157 has not yet got his stage 17 points - could you update it please?
Thanks!
I am in the purist league, 29th, one of my riders has withdrawn, can I replace him and still be in the purist league?
nope 
It might be nice to show the daily stage rankings too (so you can see how godawful your choice for that stage was compared to the rest)
For instance: if you clicked on any stage number (on the left) in your points scored overview, it could list the Team totals for that. Right no you can see what you scored, but there is no indication anywhere how it compares to Teams picked by other players, on that day.
good plan - we'll see what we can do for next season 
WeaverValleyWannaBs Mini_Wiggo0157 has not yet got his stage 17 points - could you update it please?
should be sorted now...
Argh made a mistake with my transfers and can't undo it. Seeing as you still owe me a transfer from Igor Anton's withdrawal can you reset me before 11am today....? Pleeease!
It's impossible to win to "meninblack". He/she always has the stage winner and every stage is one of the best 10 user of the day... it's a very hard job to close the gap with "meninblack". I'll have to make some risks...
Call me "The Beast"...
Yep, I'm now # 666!
It's impossible to win to "meninblack". He/she always has the stage winner and every stage is one of the best 10 user of the day... it's a very hard job to close the gap with "meninblack". I'll have to make some risks...
it's been a great fight, nothing in it the whole way...
Just happened to notice that today Nicolas Roche was only given 4 points despite being 7th overall and 16th on stage, which should be 4 points for the overall plus 5 points for 16th place...according to the rules anyway.
Making me wonder how many of the other scores aren't right, just haven't got the time to go back and check them...
Oh and I had Roche so can I get the points please?
)
Oh and I had Roche so can I get the points please?)
yup, you can - now updated. sometimes the vuelta site will simply leave a rider out of their provisional results, then stick them in at the end. that's what happened to roche - we caught it on the gc but not on the stage finish
Congrats to the joint winners, it's been really enjoyable. 68th for me, not bad considering I spent the first few stages hell bent on being a purist, then I cracked.
or I might have been higher up. It has been a great diversion for me since I am recovering from collapsing on my bike on 6th August and ending up in intensive care.
Well done for the organising, must be a big job. Maybe a few more riders in each classification would give a bigger spread of results.
Cheers.
Thefatcyclist.
Glad you enjoyed it thefatcyclist - hope the recovery is on track too?
68th is pretty good going beats my 547th – I had purity forced upon me by Eurobike and my team never really recovered - well that's my excuse anyway
I'm not the keeper of the rules, that's Dave, but my reading of them is that in the event of a tie the player with the highest score on the final stage wins…more on that tomorrow morning though. In the meantime congrats to everyone that took part - especially meninblack and saioarri who tied on points at the top, and an awesome displays also from the other five players that got over 2000 points.
If anyone has any suggestions about how we can improve the game fire 'em in they will be given plenty of consideration before we roll out the next one. I take your point on possibly having more riders in each category - certainly be good to have more all rounders.
Hi guys. I really enjoyed doing this, many thanks for laying it on! Can't wait for next year! Giro?!
A quick query - if each member of a stage winners team gets a bonus 5 points how does Tom Danielson end up with only 2 points from stage 21?
Cheers,
Dave
Dave and Tony (but probably mostly Dave
), thanks for putting on Fantasy Vuelta and for battling through the glitches and gremlins - none of which ultimately prevented any of the fun. There were some incredible scores racked up, not by my team though. Anyway, I look forward to doing it again - whenever you're ready. Thanks again.
Yes, big props to Dave for building both the fantasy games, my sole contribution was the vague notion that it might be a nice thing to do.
We shouldn't forget the unsung hero of all this either - Simon, he made loads of useful suggestions when it came to formulating the game play and along with Dave he's been the one putting the scores on the doors and generally keeping an eye out for potential problems… and making sure they all got sorted too. Thanks to both of them.
Hmm… ourdave, certainly sounds like he should have had more, we'll look in to it 
Awesome job with the game and getting the scoring updates done in such a short time!
Is there any listing of the fantasy team stage winners?
Stage 1: top score is 172 by JRB_RC (LabMonkey), team viper (viper), fdringo (antomeno), Team Murray (boraboca),
Stage 2: top score is 82 by keanus bike (hellokitty),
Stage 3: top score is 115 by Farsan Bortolo (marxtrom),
Stage 4: top score is 160 by Robabank (alexlnumber1),
Stage 5: top score is 118 by Saeco Par Cafe (Brian Lynch),
Stage 6: top score is 105 by elektra (elektra),
Stage 7: top score is 101 by Robabank (alexlnumber1),
Stage 8: top score is 173 by jaccojansen (jaccojansen),
Stage 9: top score is 94 by equipo del Cielo (JAndrewHill),
Stage 10: top score is 96 by eaju (eaju),
Stage 11: top score is 141 by Maximum Pasty (ourdave),
Stage 12: top score is 98 by errekarte (errekarte),
Stage 13: top score is 106 by Ghostriders (Ghostrider),
Stage 14: top score is 156 by cheshire cats (wihsford dave),
Stage 15: top score is 135 by Cats Vs Paine (Lance-n-Treacle),
Stage 16: top score is 147 by errekarte (errekarte),
Stage 17: top score is 133 by Sagard's Rolling All-Stars (sagard),
Stage 18: top score is 110 by Arolko-team (Arolko),
Stage 19: top score is 127 by unkemped erberts (unkemped),
Stage 20: top score is 157 by Footon Shack 2 (hrotha),
Stage 21: top score is 115 by Team Rocket (nishithpandya),
Danielson's points have now been updated too...
Thanks for bearing with us on this one, I know there were some gremlins at the start and it was hard for us to sort them out since we were at Eurobike... we've learnt some stuff for next year though. Giro? Deffo.
Dave, my 12-year old and I have thoroughly enjoyed the Fantasy Vuelta - many thanks. We were slightly gutted to finish 12th, just 9 points out of the prizes
We did the same in the Fantasy Tour de France, namely assumed the 2 KOM main-players would fight it out on Stage 20 ! Nope, we should have kept Roche, instead of swapping him for Moncoutie. C'est la vie - roll on the next year and if you have the stamina, a Giro one would be great, too. Tim and his Cyclic Cephalopod son, Hamish.
2 stage wins but no prizes this time. Boo!!! 14th overall. Great game guys, totally addicted to it. Keep up the good work and roll on next season! Cheers!
Fantasy Tour de France Winner 2010
That does seem a bit harsh alexlnumber1 you not getting a price and all - hold on, just seen your sig…
Well… as it was two wins, if you didn't get a road.cc t-shirt last time drop us a line
Has anybody received their prizes yet?
Exercise physiologist, endurance coach, bike geek!
They are on their way, promise. Cross my heart.
Fantastic... Cheers Dave!
Can't wait for the season long game next year... How about combining all of the 'Pro Tour' races?
Exercise physiologist, endurance coach, bike geek!
yeah we're currently thinking about how it'll work. more on that soon...
yeah we're currently thinking about how it'll work. more on that soon...
Any news on which races are likely to go into the new game?
Might be easiest to have the Classics and World Champs alongside the three Grand Tours?
I bet trying to get start lists in advance of the smaller stages races could be a bit of a headache.
Exercise physiologist, endurance coach, bike geek!
I bet trying to get start lists in advance of the smaller stages races could be a bit of a headache.
indeed, and we probably won't go down that route for those races, you might be on your own trying to work out who's racing and who's not 
Funnily enough, though, some of the smaller stage races - Tour Down Under and Tour of California last year, for example - make it reasonably easy for the average punter to find out who's racing by making periodic announcements of teams in the build-up to the race 

indeed, and we probably won't go down that route for those races, you might be on your own trying to work out who's racing and who's not
So you might provide complete rider rosters for the season (25 riders per team?) and we 'do the research' ourselves for each race... that fill my mornings in the office quite nicely!
I still think I would like to see all of the 'classics', the three grand tours and the worlds making up the season long fantasy game for 2011.
Exercise physiologist, endurance coach, bike geek!
yeah something like that
That would be fantastic
The fantasy Tour and Vuelta games have put the joy and excitement back into viewing pro cycling for me - thank you road.cc!
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