Can you remove all those stupid teams please enrique

by Joelsim   August 30, 2014  

It is affecting the game for others

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jova54 wrote:
Joelsim wrote:
Dave Atkinson wrote:
down to 173 now

Only 172 to go!

Only 173 to go

He's allowed his normal team i.e. Team Don Q

posted by Joelsim [1446 posts]
2nd September 2014 - 9:50

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That is his main team

posted by Joelsim [1446 posts]
2nd September 2014 - 13:40

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Personally think that he should be excluded from the game permanently..... With people like Enrique there will be something else around the corner... Its not exactly his first attempt to disrupt the game is it.... At Wits End

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posted by STEVESPRO 79 [507 posts]
2nd September 2014 - 13:47

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Joelsim wrote:
jova54 wrote:
Joelsim wrote:
Dave Atkinson wrote:
down to 173 now

Only 172 to go!

Only 173 to go

He's allowed his normal team i.e. Team Don Q


Which somehow was his best performing team? Go figure that one out?

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posted by backflipbedlem [835 posts]
2nd September 2014 - 13:51

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TBH I have no problem with Enrique on the forum. Yes, he's a bit off-the-wall at times but where he, er, occasionally labours the point I usually just ignore it. Like the proverbial stopped clock he is sometimes right about things and he certainly has a passion for bike racing.

Entering multiple teams is, however, not really acceptable; certainly not on that kind of scale. While I'd turn a blind eye to it ordinarily (not least because of the practicalities of it - more than one user can choose a team from a single machine of course) where it is flagrant and extensive the player should be given a set amount of tine, say a week, to close them down - or be kicked off (premium or no premium).

So, to make an Enrique-style suggestion for improvement, how about codifying that in the rules of the game for next year?

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posted by Ghedebrav [1101 posts]
2nd September 2014 - 15:48

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Ghedebrav wrote:
TBH I have no problem with Enrique on the forum. Yes, he's a bit off-the-wall at times but where he, er, occasionally labours the point I usually just ignore it. Like the proverbial stopped clock he is sometimes right about things and he certainly has a passion for bike racing.

Entering multiple teams is, however, not really acceptable; certainly not on that kind of scale. While I'd turn a blind eye to it ordinarily (not least because of the practicalities of it - more than one user can choose a team from a single machine of course) where it is flagrant and extensive the player should be given a set amount of tine, say a week, to close them down - or be kicked off (premium or no premium).

So, to make an Enrique-style suggestion for improvement, how about codifying that in the rules of the game for next year?

In all fairness he is removing them

however I can't find anywhere in the rules where it states you can't have multiple users names and therefore teams.....which if correct, he is well within his rights to do be it within the ethic of the game or not

posted by chiv30 [879 posts]
2nd September 2014 - 16:10

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Alls I will say from conversations with Enrique, is regardless of the rights or wrongs of having multiple teams in the first place, I don't believe he did it disrupt the game as in cheat to try and win prizes.

Everyone is allowed there opinion on the matter and thats fair enough, and you could say having multiple teams in the first place could be cheating, but like I say I don't believe he did it to cheat in the conventional meaning.

Im not going to say anything else beyond that, and if enrique wishes to explain to others his motives, thats up to him

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3993 posts]
2nd September 2014 - 17:21

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He has emailed me and explained, as like TER i will say no more other than his apology has been accepted.

There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.

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posted by stumps [2839 posts]
3rd September 2014 - 19:42

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chiv30 wrote:
Ghedebrav wrote:
TBH I have no problem with Enrique on the forum. Yes, he's a bit off-the-wall at times but where he, er, occasionally labours the point I usually just ignore it. Like the proverbial stopped clock he is sometimes right about things and he certainly has a passion for bike racing.

Entering multiple teams is, however, not really acceptable; certainly not on that kind of scale. While I'd turn a blind eye to it ordinarily (not least because of the practicalities of it - more than one user can choose a team from a single machine of course) where it is flagrant and extensive the player should be given a set amount of tine, say a week, to close them down - or be kicked off (premium or no premium).

So, to make an Enrique-style suggestion for improvement, how about codifying that in the rules of the game for next year?

In all fairness he is removing them

however I can't find anywhere in the rules where it states you can't have multiple users names and therefore teams.....which if correct, he is well within his rights to do be it within the ethic of the game or not

Yeah, that's why I'm saying put it in the rules, e.g. "Anybody discovered to be entering multiple teams will be asked to remove duplicate accounts and associated teams; road.cc reserve the right to suspend or ban any player who it has reasonable cause to believe is entering multiple teams and fails to remove them on request within a given timeframe."

Or words to that effect, something broad-brush.

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posted by Ghedebrav [1101 posts]
3rd September 2014 - 20:35

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What's the teamcount looking like these days?

posted by Joelsim [1446 posts]
4th September 2014 - 17:18

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Disclosure:

I have multiple teams, have done for several years, I have made no attempt to disguise this and have openly talked about my daughters teams in the forums and entered them in Forum competitions. No one has ever suggested I have done anything wrong. I only run one premium team and it usually does best in the non premium competitions. Although 229 teams would seem to be against the spirit of fair competition, I know how much time it takes up just running 4 teams and therefore if Enrique can be bothered I really have to say Chapeau!

I would think that if Enrique's prime team is his highest scoring team that he is attempting some kind of automated scoring mechanism to find the best team, and it seems to be working. Chapeau again.

I just wonder if it wasn't Enrique whether anyone would really be that worried about it or even have noticed?

posted by stevemarks [424 posts]
4th September 2014 - 18:26

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I've got nothing against enrique, but multiple teams makes the competition pointless like many fantasy football games.

posted by Joelsim [1446 posts]
4th September 2014 - 18:31

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If he had 229 premium teams would that be okay?

posted by stevemarks [424 posts]
4th September 2014 - 20:04

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Simple solution is to make it £10 for every entry..... Then if you want to enter multiple teams fair play.... Or make it so that only premium players can win prizes.... Otherwise what is the point of me supporting roadcc with my tenner for my solitary team... This needs sorting out....

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posted by STEVESPRO 79 [507 posts]
4th September 2014 - 22:16

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stevemarks wrote:
Disclosure:

I have multiple teams, have done for several years, I have made no attempt to disguise this and have openly talked about my daughters teams in the forums and entered them in Forum competitions. No one has ever suggested I have done anything wrong. I only run one premium team and it usually does best in the non premium competitions. Although 229 teams would seem to be against the spirit of fair competition, I know how much time it takes up just running 4 teams and therefore if Enrique can be bothered I really have to say Chapeau!

I would think that if Enrique's prime team is his highest scoring team that he is attempting some kind of automated scoring mechanism to find the best team, and it seems to be working. Chapeau again.

I just wonder if it wasn't Enrique whether anyone would really be that worried about it or even have noticed?

Exactly

posted by chiv30 [879 posts]
5th September 2014 - 5:16

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chiv30 wrote:
stevemarks wrote:
Disclosure:

I have multiple teams, have done for several years, I have made no attempt to disguise this and have openly talked about my daughters teams in the forums and entered them in Forum competitions. No one has ever suggested I have done anything wrong. I only run one premium team and it usually does best in the non premium competitions. Although 229 teams would seem to be against the spirit of fair competition, I know how much time it takes up just running 4 teams and therefore if Enrique can be bothered I really have to say Chapeau!

I would think that if Enrique's prime team is his highest scoring team that he is attempting some kind of automated scoring mechanism to find the best team, and it seems to be working. Chapeau again.

I just wonder if it wasn't Enrique whether anyone would really be that worried about it or even have noticed?

Exactly

I dont agree!

Also I dont think it matters who it is! It's not fair.

Enrique clearly has lots of spreadsheets, he often shares grabs of them and openly talks about his prediction spreadsheets. Which is fair enough and lots of people use stats etc to predict outcomes.

Using that data for one team is one thing, as the people racing are human and have off days, and with crashes etc anything can happen.
But to use the data and plug it in to 229 teams, therefore eliminating riders off days etc, then that is just against the spirit of the game!

I think we can all agree that what he has done is wrong, and that something needs to be written into the rules to prevent it in the future.
But I cant see how some people can condone this sort of behaviour?

However I am missing Enrique's insightful posts! Thinking

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posted by backflipbedlem [835 posts]
5th September 2014 - 9:11

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Yes it would be nice for enrique to show his face again.

posted by Joelsim [1446 posts]
5th September 2014 - 10:28

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I maybe in a minority of one.....but I don't miss him one bit....

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posted by STEVESPRO 79 [507 posts]
5th September 2014 - 14:27

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backflipbedlem wrote:
Joelsim wrote:
jova54 wrote:
Joelsim wrote:
Dave Atkinson wrote:
down to 173 now

Only 172 to go!

Only 173 to go

He's allowed his normal team i.e. Team Don Q


Which somehow was his best performing team? Go figure that one out?

Is it not easy enough to change team names so that his A team is always the best performing one?

posted by ray silvester [1858 posts]
6th September 2014 - 10:24

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Thats his premium member account

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posted by backflipbedlem [835 posts]
6th September 2014 - 11:20

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stevemarks wrote:
If he had 229 premium teams would that be okay?

I see nobody has answered ....

If he had 229 premium teams of course they would simply because of who it is....... As I said before other ppl have done far worse and hardly anyone thought it mattered

posted by chiv30 [879 posts]
6th September 2014 - 20:01

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Been away for a week, what has been going on here?

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posted by Gkam84 [9028 posts]
7th September 2014 - 11:46

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Is vvv aware he's forum banned and nobody can see his posts?

posted by chiv30 [879 posts]
9th September 2014 - 21:50

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chiv30 wrote:
Is vvv aware he's forum banned and nobody can see his posts?

I was unaware, so maybe he is too! lol

Why is he forum banned??

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posted by backflipbedlem [835 posts]
11th September 2014 - 9:44

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He is aware, yes. He was banned for ungentlemanly posts I would imagine.

posted by Joelsim [1446 posts]
11th September 2014 - 9:45

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So after a prolonged period of silence, Enrique has finally popped back up.

I know you have sent some personal messages Enrique to a couple of individuals, but would you care to address the greater community regarding your actions?
229? Thinking

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posted by backflipbedlem [835 posts]
16th September 2014 - 8:05

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backflipbedlem wrote:
... would you care to address the greater community regarding your actions?...
Yes, I would... I sent a message to a couple of people through the Road.cc Personal Contact Form and I would have sent you the email if I'd been able to... I'll gladly send you what I wrote if you send me a message through my Personal Contact Form (http://road.cc/user/20546/contact) on the site or you activate yours long enough for me to send you a direct message... I just didn't want to post anything here because so many people were so angry... I will.. but I didn't want anyone to react angrily and start posting comments which I wasn't ready to handle...

Vive Le Road.cc Fantasy Cycling Game!

posted by enrique [1795 posts]
16th September 2014 - 13:27

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enrique wrote:
backflipbedlem wrote:
... would you care to address the greater community regarding your actions?...
Yes, I would... I sent a message to a couple of people through the Road.cc Personal Contact Form and I would have sent you the email if I'd been able to... I'll gladly send you what I wrote if you send me a message through my Personal Contact Form (http://road.cc/user/20546/contact) on the site or you activate yours long enough for me to send you a direct message... I just didn't want to post anything here because so many people were so angry... I will.. but I didn't want anyone to react angrily and start posting comments which I wasn't ready to handle...

Let's just welcome enrique back. Having seen his note there was no cheating to it, he just got a bit carried away and obsessed.

Welcome back from me.

posted by Joelsim [1446 posts]
16th September 2014 - 15:25

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Joelsim wrote:
Welcome back...
Thank you... I missed you all...

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STEVESPRO 79 wrote:
... I don't miss him one bit....
I missed you a lot, Steve... Crying

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
16th September 2014 - 21:18

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VVV nobody can see your posts

posted by chiv30 [879 posts]
24th September 2014 - 16:38

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