Vuelta Stage 5

by enrique   August 27, 2014  

From lavuelta.com:

13:12 Primeros ataques

Pim LIGTHART (148) y Tony MARTIN (174) en cabeza de carrera con 18 segundos. MTN-Qhubeka no quiere que se marche la escapada sin al menos un representante de su equipo.

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I would have had 1,2,3,4,5,6.......what a bad mistake!!!! Will have to settle for 1,2,5,6

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
27th August 2014 - 16:55

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
...First mistake [I']ve made...
Damn...

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posted by enrique [1794 posts]
27th August 2014 - 17:13

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Unlucky TER, still going strong though. I got 1,2,3,8 plus Matthews (11/12th I think) and bits for my two cajas. Higher than I should be really, hopefully take advantage of transfers in hand for tomorrow...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
27th August 2014 - 17:14

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8 transfers done. 3 penalties.

posted by Joelsim [1435 posts]
27th August 2014 - 17:18

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Looks like it will cost me 37 points Thinking Had a 25 point lead, 29 over 3rd.... Neither had Hofland, and 3rd had Stuyven and Debusschere, and neither had Martens or Mondory who I had (this after yesterdays stage), so should hold the lead, but I could have had a massive lead. 6th was the closest with both and Mondory, but he had no Martens, so may have my lead cut to 10/15 points

Ended up with 1,2,5,6,11,17 + Mas, Gatto and D Martin

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
27th August 2014 - 17:20

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Also no transfers carried over Thinking but with a flat stage 8, im tempted to just make the two anyway, as I already have D Martin now

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
27th August 2014 - 17:22

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Who's going to go for Bertie then?

posted by Joelsim [1435 posts]
27th August 2014 - 17:29

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2,3,4,11,13 +mas

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posted by livestrongnick [1848 posts]
27th August 2014 - 17:35

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not to bad today with 1,3,11,13 +mas and martin. 6 changes for tomorrow with no penalties.

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posted by stumps [2809 posts]
27th August 2014 - 17:37

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stumps wrote:
not to bad today with 1,3,11,13 +mas and martin. 6 changes for tomorrow with no penalties.

Now that worries me! Alot! 6 free transfers Thinking

makes me question how to play this

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
27th August 2014 - 17:47

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
... makes me question how to play this
Go for the jugular! Smile Do 6 transfers, too! Smile You'll have pulled a 'Nibali' early on! Nobody'll catch you! Smile You''ll be able to waltz through to the end of the competition! You'll become a legend in the game! Do it! Smile

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posted by enrique [1794 posts]
27th August 2014 - 17:55

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Who's on scoring today?...

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posted by enrique [1794 posts]
27th August 2014 - 17:59

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3 transfers made, 10 penalties, 1 of those in though was Reynes, ready for stage 7/8 maybe and to accomodate my other 2 in's, Bouhanni and Matthews out

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
27th August 2014 - 18:10

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enrique wrote:
Who's on scoring today?...

Must be Dave, id do it, but im on my way out to the football now

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
27th August 2014 - 18:10

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
3 transfers made, 10 penalties, 1 of those in though was Reynes, ready for stage 7/8 maybe and to accomodate my other 2 in's, Bouhanni and Matthews out

Makes my 8 transfers seem a trifle excessive.

But I've decided to go for some alternative riders. What could go wrong.

Lawson Craddock (GSH)
Adam Yates (OGE)
Rohan Dennis (BMC)
Fabian Cancellara (TFR)
Dario Cataldo (SKY)
Jurgen Van Den Broeck (LTB)
Luke Rowe (SKY)
Karol Domagalski (CJR)
Dan Craven (EUC)

posted by Joelsim [1435 posts]
27th August 2014 - 18:21

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... I've decided to go for some alternative riders. What could go wrong [?]....
joel, please get in touch with dave, gkam may have hacked into your account... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1794 posts]
27th August 2014 - 19:01

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enrique wrote:
Joelsim wrote:
... I've decided to go for some alternative riders. What could go wrong [?]....
joel, please get in touch with dave, gkam may have hacked into your account... Thinking

Too true. There is one jewel in there tho'.

posted by Joelsim [1435 posts]
27th August 2014 - 19:40

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Joelsim wrote:
... There is one jewel in there...
Yates. I hope he comes in 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th for you... at least a Top 10... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1794 posts]
27th August 2014 - 20:17

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I'm so antsy I've done the scores...

John Degenkolb Team Giant-Shimano 40
Nacer Bouhanni FDJ.fr 36
Moreno Hofland Belkin Pro Cycling Team 25
Michael Matthews Orica Greenedge 23
Jasper Stuyven Trek Factory Racing 22
Pim Ligthart Lotto Belisol 22
Paul Martens Belkin Pro Cycling Team 20
Lloyd Mondory AG2R La Mondiale 19
Philippe Gilbert BMC Racing Team 16
Vicente Reynes Mimo IAM Cycling 14
Kristian Sbaragli MTN - Qhubeka 12
Roberto Ferrari Lampre-Merida 11
Alejandro Valverde Movistar Team 11
Christopher Froome Team Sky 10
Damiano Caruso Cannondale 10
David Millar Garmin Sharp 10
Jens Debusschere Lotto Belisol 9
Nairo Alexander Quintana Movistar 9
Yauheni Hutarovich AG2R La Mondiale 8
Romain Hardy Cofidis, Solutions Credits 7
Rigoberto Uran Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 7
Lluis Guillermo Mas Caja Rural- Seguros RGA 6
Amets Txurruka Caja Rural- Seguros RGA 6
Peter Kennaugh Team Sky 5
Johan Esteban Chaves Orica Greenedge 5
Lawson Craddock Team Giant-Shimano 5
Warren Barguil Team Giant-Shimano 5
Nikias Arndt Team Giant-Shimano 5
Ramon Sinkeldam Team Giant-Shimano 5
Koen De Kort Team Giant-Shimano 5
Tobias Ludvigsson Team Giant-Shimano 5
Chad Haga Team Giant-Shimano 5
Johannes Frohlinger Team Giant-Shimano 5
Haimar Zubeldia Trek Factory Racing 4
Jerome Cousin Team Europcar 4
Tony Martin Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 4
Wilco Kelderman Belkin Pro Cycling 3
Cadel Evans BMC Racing Team 2
Alberto Contador Team Tinkoff-Saxo 2
Daniel Martin Garmin Sharp 2
Danilo Wyss BMC Racing Team 2
Christian Knees Team Sky 2
Sergio Pardilla MTN - Qhubeka 2
Andre Cardoso Garmin Sharp 1
Robert Gesink Belkin Pro Cycling 1
Winner Anacona Lampre - Merida 1

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posted by enrique [1794 posts]
27th August 2014 - 20:21

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
stumps wrote:
not to bad today with 1,3,11,13 +mas and martin. 6 changes for tomorrow with no penalties.

Now that worries me! Alot! 6 free transfers Thinking

makes me question how to play this

I picked my team for stage 2 onwards and as luck would have it they have done quite well hence the build up of transfers. They've all gone now so penalty time shortly i think.

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posted by stumps [2809 posts]
27th August 2014 - 20:57

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I basically have my two transfers ive brought in + Martin and Caruso who I expect to go well tomorrow, and hopefully Mas in the break.

Im likely to keep the same team for 7, as I have Degenkolb, Martens and Monodry still, as well as Reynes, and that then gives me 2 transfers to bring in Bouhanni + another for stage 8 and be able to get rid of them + 2 other transfers for stage 9.

Take off my 10 penalties and I still have a 41 point buffer over 2nd, and if my transfers in place well, im likely to still be pushing the top after tomorrow even if I don't lead, as anyone who did well today and is near the top is likely to need a penalty or two as I doubt they have 6 saved up (as you have 6, but are nearly 200 behind, so your not gonna make that up in 1 stage)

Oh had I kept my team the same as stage 4 and not brought in Caruso and Martin, id have won the stage by 6 points, would have lead by 85 points, and had 2 transfers saved. That decision could end up costing me the vuelta, a long way to I know, but its always the small decisions like that

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
27th August 2014 - 22:36

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Joelsim wrote:
Lawson Craddock (GSH)
Adam Yates (OGE)
Rohan Dennis (BMC)
Fabian Cancellara (TFR)
Dario Cataldo (SKY)
Jurgen Van Den Broeck (LTB)
Luke Rowe (SKY)
Karol Domagalski (CJR)
Dan Craven (EUC)

I think Gkam, a couple of years ago, used to put up fake teams , if I remember correctly. We'd find out the next day, of course, that he really hadn't put up the team he 'shared' previously... 'Uncle Orli' would approve...

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posted by enrique [1794 posts]
27th August 2014 - 22:42

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
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Im likely to keep the same team for 7, as I have Degenkolb, Martens and Monodry still, as well as Reynes, and that then gives me 2 transfers to bring in Bouhanni + another for stage 8 and be able to get rid of them + 2 other transfers for stage 9...
You've got a strategy that just might keep your challengers at bay... Who's doing the updating you or dave?...

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posted by enrique [1794 posts]
27th August 2014 - 22:46

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Its not me updating

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
27th August 2014 - 22:52

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enrique wrote:
Joelsim wrote:
Lawson Craddock (GSH)
Adam Yates (OGE)
Rohan Dennis (BMC)
Fabian Cancellara (TFR)
Dario Cataldo (SKY)
Jurgen Van Den Broeck (LTB)
Luke Rowe (SKY)
Karol Domagalski (CJR)
Dan Craven (EUC)

I think Gkam, a couple of years ago, used to put up fake teams , if I remember correctly. We'd find out the next day, of course, that he really hadn't put up the team he 'shared' previously... 'Uncle Orli' would approve...

I guess we will see tmw then.

posted by Joelsim [1435 posts]
27th August 2014 - 22:56

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should be done in a mo. connection's a bit ropey here

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7432 posts]
27th August 2014 - 22:58

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66th on the stage puts me 29th overall, must be my highest in a Grand Tour but still 80 behind Mr Ratcliffe. Make that 90 including the ten pens I've taken for tomorrow...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
27th August 2014 - 23:21

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Crying Crying At Wits End First mistake ive made, dropping Hofland and Stuyven....I dropped them for Caruso and Martin

First thing I thought when I saw the result was damn, TER's got both of those, but I had Stuyven only. Got rid of Hofland but Boonen's puncture may have cost me a few points. Gilbert finally got some points after I dumped him as well. You never know with those two!

posted by Alan Tullett [1457 posts]
27th August 2014 - 23:26

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Froome is picking up so many points on flat stages in this race!

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posted by Dux89 [115 posts]
27th August 2014 - 23:41

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Alan Tullett wrote:
TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Crying Crying At Wits End First mistake ive made, dropping Hofland and Stuyven....I dropped them for Caruso and Martin

First thing I thought when I saw the result was damn, TER's got both of those, but I had Stuyven only. Got rid of Hofland but Boonen's puncture may have cost me a few points. Gilbert finally got some points after I dumped him as well. You never know with those two!

I was always going to make a mistake or two, you could say that the fact I brought in Martens when I did and Mondory when I did makes up for it, when others didn't, and if Damino goes well today, then who knows. Gilbert is so up and down this season its so hard to tell

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
28th August 2014 - 7:30

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