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13:12 Primeros ataques

Pim LIGTHART (148) y Tony MARTIN (174) en cabeza de carrera con 18 segundos. MTN-Qhubeka no quiere que se marche la escapada sin al menos un representante de su equipo.

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TERatcliffe26 [4465 posts] 1 year ago
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 20 20 102 First mistake ive made, dropping Hofland and Stuyven....I dropped them for Caruso and Martin

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TERatcliffe26 [4465 posts] 1 year ago
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I would have had 1,2,3,4,5,6.......what a bad mistake!!!! Will have to settle for 1,2,5,6

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enrique [2255 posts] 1 year ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

...First mistake [I']ve made...

Damn...

Top 20 and Lanterne Rouge. Complete results for the stage and the race are up already at lavuelta.com.

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chrisdstripes [1705 posts] 1 year ago
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Unlucky TER, still going strong though. I got 1,2,3,8 plus Matthews (11/12th I think) and bits for my two cajas. Higher than I should be really, hopefully take advantage of transfers in hand for tomorrow...

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Joelsim [1963 posts] 1 year ago
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8 transfers done. 3 penalties.

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TERatcliffe26 [4465 posts] 1 year ago
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Looks like it will cost me 37 points  39 Had a 25 point lead, 29 over 3rd.... Neither had Hofland, and 3rd had Stuyven and Debusschere, and neither had Martens or Mondory who I had (this after yesterdays stage), so should hold the lead, but I could have had a massive lead. 6th was the closest with both and Mondory, but he had no Martens, so may have my lead cut to 10/15 points

Ended up with 1,2,5,6,11,17 + Mas, Gatto and D Martin

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TERatcliffe26 [4465 posts] 1 year ago
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Also no transfers carried over  39 but with a flat stage 8, im tempted to just make the two anyway, as I already have D Martin now

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Joelsim [1963 posts] 1 year ago
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Who's going to go for Bertie then?

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 1 year ago
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2,3,4,11,13 +mas

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stumps [3188 posts] 1 year ago
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not to bad today with 1,3,11,13 +mas and martin. 6 changes for tomorrow with no penalties.

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TERatcliffe26 [4465 posts] 1 year ago
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stumps wrote:

not to bad today with 1,3,11,13 +mas and martin. 6 changes for tomorrow with no penalties.

Now that worries me! Alot! 6 free transfers  39

makes me question how to play this

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enrique [2255 posts] 1 year ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

... makes me question how to play this

Go for the jugular!  1 Do 6 transfers, too!  1 You'll have pulled a 'Nibali' early on! Nobody'll catch you!  1 You''ll be able to waltz through to the end of the competition! You'll become a legend in the game! Do it!  1

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enrique [2255 posts] 1 year ago
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Who's on scoring today?...

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TERatcliffe26 [4465 posts] 1 year ago
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3 transfers made, 10 penalties, 1 of those in though was Reynes, ready for stage 7/8 maybe and to accomodate my other 2 in's, Bouhanni and Matthews out

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TERatcliffe26 [4465 posts] 1 year ago
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enrique wrote:

Who's on scoring today?...

Must be Dave, id do it, but im on my way out to the football now

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Joelsim [1963 posts] 1 year ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

3 transfers made, 10 penalties, 1 of those in though was Reynes, ready for stage 7/8 maybe and to accomodate my other 2 in's, Bouhanni and Matthews out

Makes my 8 transfers seem a trifle excessive.

But I've decided to go for some alternative riders. What could go wrong.

Lawson Craddock (GSH)
Adam Yates (OGE)
Rohan Dennis (BMC)
Fabian Cancellara (TFR)
Dario Cataldo (SKY)
Jurgen Van Den Broeck (LTB)
Luke Rowe (SKY)
Karol Domagalski (CJR)
Dan Craven (EUC)

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enrique [2255 posts] 1 year ago
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Joelsim wrote:

... I've decided to go for some alternative riders. What could go wrong [?]....

joel, please get in touch with dave, gkam may have hacked into your account...  39

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Joelsim [1963 posts] 1 year ago
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enrique wrote:
Joelsim wrote:

... I've decided to go for some alternative riders. What could go wrong [?]....

joel, please get in touch with dave, gkam may have hacked into your account...  39

Too true. There is one jewel in there tho'.

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enrique [2255 posts] 1 year ago
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Joelsim wrote:

... There is one jewel in there...

Yates. I hope he comes in 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th for you... at least a Top 10...  39

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enrique [2255 posts] 1 year ago
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I'm so antsy I've done the scores...

John Degenkolb Team Giant-Shimano 40
Nacer Bouhanni FDJ.fr 36
Moreno Hofland Belkin Pro Cycling Team 25
Michael Matthews Orica Greenedge 23
Jasper Stuyven Trek Factory Racing 22
Pim Ligthart Lotto Belisol 22
Paul Martens Belkin Pro Cycling Team 20
Lloyd Mondory AG2R La Mondiale 19
Philippe Gilbert BMC Racing Team 16
Vicente Reynes Mimo IAM Cycling 14
Kristian Sbaragli MTN - Qhubeka 12
Roberto Ferrari Lampre-Merida 11
Alejandro Valverde Movistar Team 11
Christopher Froome Team Sky 10
Damiano Caruso Cannondale 10
David Millar Garmin Sharp 10
Jens Debusschere Lotto Belisol 9
Nairo Alexander Quintana Movistar 9
Yauheni Hutarovich AG2R La Mondiale 8
Romain Hardy Cofidis, Solutions Credits 7
Rigoberto Uran Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 7
Lluis Guillermo Mas Caja Rural- Seguros RGA 6
Amets Txurruka Caja Rural- Seguros RGA 6
Peter Kennaugh Team Sky 5
Johan Esteban Chaves Orica Greenedge 5
Lawson Craddock Team Giant-Shimano 5
Warren Barguil Team Giant-Shimano 5
Nikias Arndt Team Giant-Shimano 5
Ramon Sinkeldam Team Giant-Shimano 5
Koen De Kort Team Giant-Shimano 5
Tobias Ludvigsson Team Giant-Shimano 5
Chad Haga Team Giant-Shimano 5
Johannes Frohlinger Team Giant-Shimano 5
Haimar Zubeldia Trek Factory Racing 4
Jerome Cousin Team Europcar 4
Tony Martin Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 4
Wilco Kelderman Belkin Pro Cycling 3
Cadel Evans BMC Racing Team 2
Alberto Contador Team Tinkoff-Saxo 2
Daniel Martin Garmin Sharp 2
Danilo Wyss BMC Racing Team 2
Christian Knees Team Sky 2
Sergio Pardilla MTN - Qhubeka 2
Andre Cardoso Garmin Sharp 1
Robert Gesink Belkin Pro Cycling 1
Winner Anacona Lampre - Merida 1

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stumps [3188 posts] 1 year ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
stumps wrote:

not to bad today with 1,3,11,13 +mas and martin. 6 changes for tomorrow with no penalties.

Now that worries me! Alot! 6 free transfers  39

makes me question how to play this

I picked my team for stage 2 onwards and as luck would have it they have done quite well hence the build up of transfers. They've all gone now so penalty time shortly i think.

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TERatcliffe26 [4465 posts] 1 year ago
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I basically have my two transfers ive brought in + Martin and Caruso who I expect to go well tomorrow, and hopefully Mas in the break.

Im likely to keep the same team for 7, as I have Degenkolb, Martens and Monodry still, as well as Reynes, and that then gives me 2 transfers to bring in Bouhanni + another for stage 8 and be able to get rid of them + 2 other transfers for stage 9.

Take off my 10 penalties and I still have a 41 point buffer over 2nd, and if my transfers in place well, im likely to still be pushing the top after tomorrow even if I don't lead, as anyone who did well today and is near the top is likely to need a penalty or two as I doubt they have 6 saved up (as you have 6, but are nearly 200 behind, so your not gonna make that up in 1 stage)

Oh had I kept my team the same as stage 4 and not brought in Caruso and Martin, id have won the stage by 6 points, would have lead by 85 points, and had 2 transfers saved. That decision could end up costing me the vuelta, a long way to I know, but its always the small decisions like that

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enrique [2255 posts] 1 year ago
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Joelsim wrote:

Lawson Craddock (GSH)
Adam Yates (OGE)
Rohan Dennis (BMC)
Fabian Cancellara (TFR)
Dario Cataldo (SKY)
Jurgen Van Den Broeck (LTB)
Luke Rowe (SKY)
Karol Domagalski (CJR)
Dan Craven (EUC)

I think Gkam, a couple of years ago, used to put up fake teams , if I remember correctly. We'd find out the next day, of course, that he really hadn't put up the team he 'shared' previously... 'Uncle Orli' would approve...

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enrique [2255 posts] 1 year ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

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Im likely to keep the same team for 7, as I have Degenkolb, Martens and Monodry still, as well as Reynes, and that then gives me 2 transfers to bring in Bouhanni + another for stage 8 and be able to get rid of them + 2 other transfers for stage 9...

You've got a strategy that just might keep your challengers at bay... Who's doing the updating you or dave?...

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TERatcliffe26 [4465 posts] 1 year ago
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Its not me updating

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Joelsim [1963 posts] 1 year ago
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enrique wrote:
Joelsim wrote:

Lawson Craddock (GSH)
Adam Yates (OGE)
Rohan Dennis (BMC)
Fabian Cancellara (TFR)
Dario Cataldo (SKY)
Jurgen Van Den Broeck (LTB)
Luke Rowe (SKY)
Karol Domagalski (CJR)
Dan Craven (EUC)

I think Gkam, a couple of years ago, used to put up fake teams , if I remember correctly. We'd find out the next day, of course, that he really hadn't put up the team he 'shared' previously... 'Uncle Orli' would approve...

I guess we will see tmw then.

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dave atkinson [6148 posts] 1 year ago
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should be done in a mo. connection's a bit ropey here

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chrisdstripes [1705 posts] 1 year ago
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66th on the stage puts me 29th overall, must be my highest in a Grand Tour but still 80 behind Mr Ratcliffe. Make that 90 including the ten pens I've taken for tomorrow...

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Alan Tullett [1566 posts] 1 year ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

 20 20 102 First mistake ive made, dropping Hofland and Stuyven....I dropped them for Caruso and Martin

First thing I thought when I saw the result was damn, TER's got both of those, but I had Stuyven only. Got rid of Hofland but Boonen's puncture may have cost me a few points. Gilbert finally got some points after I dumped him as well. You never know with those two!

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Dux89 [194 posts] 1 year ago
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Froome is picking up so many points on flat stages in this race!

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