Vuelta a Burgos Forum Competition

by enrique   August 12, 2014  

I wonder, how can anyone ignore the biggest Spanish stage race right before the biggest (!) Spanish stage race? For those who can't live with drowning or thriving in just one race at a time, I bring you the Vuelta a Burgos Competition! I can't help myself! I love this sh$#@t! Smile You don't have to, of course! Smile

The Vuelta runs for 5 days. Just like the TOU, only part of the race will be scored. For the Vuelta those stages will be Stages 3 and 5. Stage 3 is the Queen stage. Stage 5 is an ITT. Or is it a TTT? Thinking Regardless, only (!) Stages 3 and 5 will will be scored in this competition.

The Vuelta starts Wednesday Aug 13 and runs through Sunday Aug 17, 2014.

Here's the official Vuelta a Burgos Twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/thetourofutah

Here's the race website:
http://www.vueltaburgos.com/

Here's the (very bare!) start list on PCS:
http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Vuelta_a_Burgos_2014-Startlist

The rules:

1. Pick 9 riders from the list below. That (!) is the Special Rule. You can only choose riders from the list below. If you do not see a rider in the list below, he is off-limits for this competition.

This is no easy task and is not for the faint of heart. If you study the list below and compare it to the full start list, you'll see it is essentially a 'No Team Captain', 'No Fan Favorite' or 'No Recognizable Name' rule. There's no Movistar rider on the list, either. And no rider on this list is worth over 15.4 credits. There's no Quintana, no Landa, no Pardilla, no Txurruka, no Lagutin. No. No Rabottini either. No one. You could call it the 'No Easy Choice' rule, I guess. Or the 'Enrique Is Mad' Rule. The 'What' you say? You don't want to play now?... Sad You've got time to do research! Big Grin Man up! This is just for fun! Smile Although, if no one signs up I won't be offended! Smile

The Finish Line and Classification scoring will be adjusted accordingly by removing any score obtained from riders not on the list below and awarding those points to the next qualified rider that does appear on the list below. That's not that bad, is it?...

The official start list has been announced and I will monitor the roster and make changes to the start list as necessary until the start of the competition on Friday. If any roster changes occur that warrant any other inclusion, I will announce it below.

2. You will have a budget of 100 credits. Requests for an extension of the budget will be considered if they are accompanied by a certificate of mental competency from a licensed health practitioner and a handwritten note from your mother. Big Grin

3. Enter your team before the start of Stage 3. Stage 3 starts at 12:52am local time Friday August 15 (11:52 AM - 11:52 CET). That's enough time to research all those 3.0 riders, right? Smile

4. Given the restrictive nature of these rules and the difficulty of selecting a good team under these circumstances, you will be allowed 9 transfers for Stage 5. That means you can completely overahual your team for Stage 5. The special rule, however, will still apply to your team for Stage 5.

Notes:
1. Any team that does not seem suited for the stage for which it is submitted will, of course, be given the opportunity to be changed before the start of the competition or the start of the next stage scored in the competition.

2. The GC, PC, KOM and YR jerseys will be honored and so will the Lanterne Rouge. The Sprint and KOM points along the way will be awarded to each rider exactly the way they are awarded in the race itself.

The riders
START LIST SORTED BY RIDER VALUE

Cheng Ji Giant 15.4
Blel Kadri AG2R 13.4
Thomas Damuseau Giant 11.9
Daan Olivier Giant 9.3
Vladimir Gusev Katusha 9.3
Chad Haga Giant 8.7
Alexandr Kolobnev Katusha 8.1
Lloyd Mondory AG2R 7.5
Aliaksandr Kuchynski Katusha 7.5
Patrick Gretsch AG2R 6.5
Alberto Losada Katusha 6.3
Dmitriy Kozontchuk Katusha 6.0
Andrey Zeits Astana 5.4
Sebastien Turgot AG2R 5.3
Damien Gaudin AG2R La Mondiale 4.2
Alexsandr Dyachenko Astana 3.0
Bakhtiyar Kozhatayev Astana 3.0
Ilya Davidenok Astana 3.0
Dario Hernandez Burgos 3.0
David Belda Burgos 3.0
Ibai Salas Burgos 3.0
Igor Merino Burgos 3.0
Jesus Del Pino Burgos 3.0
Juan José Oroz Burgos 3.0
Moises Duenas Burgos 3.0
Victor Martín Burgos 3.0
Antonio Piedra Caja Rural 3.0
Fernando Grijalba Caja Rural 3.0
Javier Aramendia Caja Rural 3.0
Karol Domagalski Caja Rural 3.0
Lluís Guillermo Mas Caja Rural 3.0
Pello Bilbao Caja Rural 3.0
Beñat Txoperena Euskadi 3.0
Carlos Barbero Euskadi 3.0
Haritz Orbe Euskadi 3.0
Jon Larrinaga Euskadi 3.0
Miguel Minguez Euskadi 3.0
Mikel Aristi Euskadi 3.0
Mikel Iturria Euskadi 3.0
Pablo Lechuga Euskadi 3.0
Steven Lammertink Giant 3.0
Tom Peterson Giant 3.0
Johann Tschopp IAM 3.0
Jonathan Fumeaux IAM 3.0
Kevyn Ista IAM 3.0
Marcel Aregger IAM 3.0
Matteo Pelucchi IAM 3.0
Patrick Schelling IAM 3.0
Pirmin Lang IAM 3.0
Vicente Reynes IAM 3.0
Petr Ignatenko Katusha 3.0
Adrien Niyonshuti MTN-Qhubeka 3.0
Daniel Teklehaimanot MTN-Qhubeka 3.0
Dennis Van Niekerk MTN-Qhubeka 3.0
Jacques Janse Van Rensburg MTN-Qhubeka 3.0
Linus Gerdemann MTN-Qhubeka 3.0
Tsgabu Grmay MTN-Qhubeka 3.0
Youcef Reguigui MTN-Qhubeka 3.0
Fabio Taborre Neri Sottoli 3.0
Francesco Failli Neri Sottoli 3.0
Giorgio Cecchinel Neri Sottoli 3.0
Giuseppe Fonzi Neri Sottoli 3.0
Mattia Pozzo Neri Sottoli 3.0
Mirko Tedeschi Neri Sottoli 3.0
Rafael Andriato Neri Sottoli 3.0
Simone Ponzi Neri Sottoli 3.0
Andrei Solomennikov Rusvelo 3.0
Artem Ovechkin Rusvelo 3.0
Ilnur Zakarin Rusvelo 3.0
Ivan Balykin Rusvelo 3.0
Kirill Pozdnyakov Rusvelo 3.0
Sergey Klimov Rusvelo 3.0
Sergey Pomoshnikov Rusvelo 3.0

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#VueltaBurgos The 6 leaders (Klimov, Mas, Tedeschi, Torres, Txoperena and Zeits have a 2.30 gap after 80 km of racing.

'Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you'

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posted by livestrongnick [1837 posts]
15th August 2014 - 13:17

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Sorry fella, forgot about this.

My team.

Quintana
Quintana
Quintana
Quintana
Quintana
Quintana
Quintana
Quintana
Quintana

posted by Joelsim [1400 posts]
15th August 2014 - 13:49

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livestrongnick wrote:
6 leaders (Klimov, Mas, Tedeschi, Torres, Txoperena and Zeits have a 2.30 gap after 80 km of racing.
Thanks, nick! Smile Now why can't I follow the lead and do what other people do and put Tedeschi in?... Waiting WTF?... I hate people that are smarter than me... Thinking I hate the world... Waiting I'm not in a good mood today... Waiting

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
15th August 2014 - 14:10

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Joelsim wrote:
... forgot about this...
You can still put in a team for Stage 5! Smile

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
15th August 2014 - 14:11

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#VueltaBurgos
1 Quintana
2 Moreno+7
3 Landa+10

'Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you'

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posted by livestrongnick [1837 posts]
15th August 2014 - 15:16

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I believe Bilbao won from our fantasy game, and the only rider to place in the top 10

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3969 posts]
15th August 2014 - 16:49

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Joelsim wrote:
Sorry fella, forgot about this.

My team.

Quintana
Quintana
Quintana
Quintana
Quintana
Quintana
Quintana
Quintana
Quintana

405 points for me today. Joy!

posted by Joelsim [1400 posts]
15th August 2014 - 17:06

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Tedeschi topped 1st mountain (6 scorers) and 2nd mountain (4 scorers) and 3rd mountain (6 scorers)

Zeits 3rd at 1st and 2nd sprint (3 scorers),2nd at 3rd sprint. Topped 4th mountain (4 scorers), 2nd 1st and 3rd mountain, 3rd on 2nd mountain

Not got time to do the other riders

You can work it out from the text here: http://www.vueltaburgos.com/clasificaciones-3a-etapa/

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3969 posts]
15th August 2014 - 17:08

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On the basis that the points are scored as if the big boys are not there (so Bilbao gets 35), mountain points are scored for number of riders scoring, sprints are 3-2-1 points each and the youth prize is counted, I worked out the following scores whilst bored at work:

Total
Bilbao 49
Olivier 49
Losada 33
Tschopp 29
Zakarin 26
Zeits 26
Kozhatayev 25
Belda 23
Tedeschi 21
Davidenok 18
Oroz 17
Klimov 17
Mas Bonet 16
Minguez 14
Duenas 12
Kozontchuk 10
Ignatenko 9
Txoperena 9
Piedra 8
Damuseau 8
Torres 8
Van Rensburg 7
Merino 6
Lammertink 6
Failli 5
Kuchynski 4
Reynes 2
Pomoshnikov 1
Fumeaux 1
Iturria 1

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posted by Twybaydos [351 posts]
15th August 2014 - 17:47

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Twybaydos wrote:
On the basis that the points are scored as if the big boys are not there...
Damn! Nice, Twy! I just came on to post the scores and found you had already done them! Smile Pretty impressive! Smile Thanks! Smile I'm posting the scores I had already worked out before I came here on the forum (which I also did at work! Big Grin ) because I think we have some differences...

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You have Bilbao with 4 KOM points and I don't have him down for any... I have Tedeschi down as the Lantern Rouge... You have Mondory as not having any points, I have him on the OP list and scoring today... I gave each rider the KOM and Sprint points that the race awarded, which I think I had stated above, etc...

I'll have to check the others, though, more thoroughly... I've got my other spreadsheet with the teams on it at home, so I'll post up the scores later...

Here's my rider scores:

Daan Oliver Team Giant-Shimano 46
Peio Bilbao Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 45
Alberto Losada Team Katusha 33
Mirko Tedeschi Neri Sottoli 31
Johann Tschopp IAM Cycling 29
Ilnur Zakarin Rusvelo 26
Bakhtiyar Kozhataye Astana Pro Team 24
David Belda Burgos - BH 23
Juan JosÈ Oroz Burgos - BH 17
Andrey Zeits Astana Pro Team 17
Miguel Minguez Euskadi 14
MoisÈs DueÒas Burgos - BH 12
Luis Mas Bonet Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 12
Serguei Klimov Rusvelo 11
Dmitry Kozontchuk Team Katusha 10
Petr Ignatenko Team Katusha 9
Antonio Piedra Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 8
Lloyd Mondory Ag2r La Mondiale 8
Jacques Van Rensburg MTN - Qhubeka 7
Igor Merino Burgos - BH 6
Thomas Damuseau Team Giant-Shimano 6
Pablo Torres Burgos - BH 6
Ilya Davidenok Astana Pro Team 6
Sebastien Minard Ag2r La Mondiale 5
Steven Lammertink Team Giant-Shimano 5
BeÒat Txoperena Euskadi 4
Francesco Failli Neri Sottoli 3
Aleksandr Kuschynski Team Katusha 2
Vicente Reynes IAM Cycling 1
Mikel Iturria Euskadi 1

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
15th August 2014 - 20:34

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And here we go! The Results of the Vuelta a Burgos Stage 3!

Twybaydos 174
enrique 169
TERatcliffe26 161
ingemar 147
ray silvester 33
livestrongnick 49
Joelsim 0

Twy takes it! Nice job with that change for Tedeschi! He bagged you a lot of points! Smile On Sunday we'll have the time trial, which just may be a TTT, I'll confirm later! If that is the case, we will follow the game TTT scoring protocol. The deadline for submitting a team will be Sunday at 11:50 CET

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
15th August 2014 - 23:18

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I think you've misscored me. I demand a Steward's Enrique!

posted by Joelsim [1400 posts]
16th August 2014 - 10:05

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enrique wrote:
... On Sunday we'll have the time trial, which just may be a TTT, I'll confirm later!... we will follow the game TTT scoring protocol. The deadline for submitting a team will be Sunday at 11:50 CET
Ok, it's confirmed it will be a TTT, build your teams accordingly... Movistar is off limits, of course and you can only use the riders in the OP, of course... Here's my team:

Bakhtiyar Kozhataye
Andrey Zeits
Alberto Losada
Dmitry Kozontchuk
Ilnur Zakarin
Serguei Klimov
Daan Olivier
Johann Tschopp
Peio Bilbao

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
16th August 2014 - 18:02

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you sure? seems abit odd to have a 12km TTT

how are GC points etc scored? tedeschi although 2nd in mountains gets 5 as if 1st?

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3969 posts]
16th August 2014 - 18:14

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Well as everything I have read suggests an ITT, so this is my team

Turgot
Mondory
Ovechkin
Tedeschi
Oliver
Damuseau
Bilbao
Teklehaimanot
Zakarin

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3969 posts]
16th August 2014 - 18:48

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Turgot
Losada
Mondory
Ovechkin
Tedeschi
Oliver
Damuseau
Zakarin
Zeits

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posted by livestrongnick [1837 posts]
16th August 2014 - 19:02

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
you sure? seems abit odd to have a 12km TTT...
It does, but I emailed the organizers and they confirmed it was a TTT Thinking What can I say?... It doesn't make sense to me, but, what do I know?... Thinking I thought it was an ITT because their Twitter feed said CRI not CRE, but their site says TTT so I emailed them and they conformed it was a TTT... I put the competition together thinking it was an ITT, so it's a surprise to me too... Confused

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
how are GC points etc scored? tedeschi although 2nd in mountains gets 5 as if 1st?
Absolutely... For GC and other classifications, we'll skip anyone not on the OP list as we did yesterday... The whole Movistar team will be skipped for TTT purposes...

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Email below from La Vuelta:

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
16th August 2014 - 19:32

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Mr Moreno's interview spoke as if it was an ITT too, so I guess we shall see tomorrow. I just hope the riders know what it is they are doing

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3969 posts]
17th August 2014 - 1:26

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Mr Moreno's interview spoke as if it was an ITT too...
I have this nagging suspicion you're right and the contact I made at the Vuelta and cyclingnews are wrong... Thinking I wrote them again, but, just in case, and very awkwardly, here's my team if it's an ITT:

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Vladimir Gusev
Artem Ovechkin
Andrey Zeits
Chad Haga
Daniel Teklehaimanot
Steven Lammertink
Tsgabu Grmay
Andrei Solomennikov
Ilnur Zakarin

I don't what to say, if you want to submit a team just in case it's a TTT, please do. I'm confused.

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
17th August 2014 - 6:25

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Mr Moreno's interview spoke as if it was an ITT too...
You must be right... They tweeted this picture of the start ramp earlier today... I don't know what to say... But, well, here we go in a couple of minutes! Smile

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
17th August 2014 - 11:44

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I have no idea why I didn't put in Patrick Gretsch... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
17th August 2014 - 11:51

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And we're off! Here's the 3rd rider out, Pelucchi, courtesy of @VueltaaBurgos, and the start order list... Sorry about the confusion... Sad But, well, what can I say? I was misled... D Oh

Burgos.jpg CRI.jpg

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
17th August 2014 - 12:10

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I would have put in Gretsch too, but I think I got confused with the TTT/ITT conundrum

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3969 posts]
17th August 2014 - 15:07

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and Gaudin too

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3969 posts]
17th August 2014 - 15:08

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Results are now up anyway

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3969 posts]
17th August 2014 - 15:14

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
I would have put in Gretsch too...
Thankfully, what happened was Gretsch was never in the race, I sadly neglected to remove him from the OP list... Thinking But! He will apparently be in the Vuelta! Smile

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
17th August 2014 - 16:08

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I love this little race! Smile I apologize for the hiccup, the major (!) hiccup, for today's stage... Truly sorry Plain Face Anyways, results are up and I have to say I've enjoyed the Twitter coverage of this race inmensely!

Here are the rider scores for today:

Ilnur Zakarin Rusvelo 38
Chad Haga Team Giant-Shimano 35
Daan Oliver Team Giant-Shimano 32
Damien Gaudin Ag2R La Mondiale 25
Artem Ovechkin Rusvelo 22
Peio Bilbao Caja Rural - Seguros Rga 22
Daniel Teklehaimanot Mtn - Qhubeka 20
Sebastien Turgot Ag2R La Mondiale 16
Alberto Losada Team Katusha 16
Steven Lammertink Team Giant-Shimano 15
Ilya Davidenok Astana Pro Team 13
Luis Mas Bonet Caja Rural - Seguros Rga 12
Juan José Oroz Burgos - Bh 11
Linus Gerdemann Mtn - Qhubeka 10
Antonio Piedra Caja Rural - Seguros Rga 8
Miguel Minguez Euskadi 6
Johann Tschopp Iam Cycling 6
Ivan Balykin Rusvelo 5
Mirko Tedeschi Neri Sottoli 5
Lloyd Mondory Ag2R La Mondiale 5
Igor Merino Burgos - Bh 4
Andrey Zeits Astana Pro Team 4
Bakhtiyar Kozhataye Astana Pro Team 4
Thomas Damuseau Team Giant-Shimano 4
Illart Zuazubiskar Euskadi 3
Vicente Reynes Iam Cycling 3
David Belda Burgos - Bh 3
Serguei Klimov Rusvelo 2
Mikel Iturria Euskadi 2
Moisés Dueñas Burgos - Bh 2
Matteo Pelucchi Iam Cycling 2
Fabio Taborre Neri Sottoli 1
Dmitry Kozontchuk Team Katusha 1
Carlos Barbero Euskadi 1

And the Stage 5 Team Scores:

livestrongnick 142
enrique 134
TERatcliffe26 126
Twybaydos 114
ingemar 111
ray silvesterc
Joelsim 0

Nick strikes again! Smile You're on a roll, nick! And yet another (!) Full House (!) Good job! Smile

And the Overall Standings for the Vuelta a Burgos Forum Compeitition:

enrique 303
Twybaydos 288
TERatcliffe26 287
ingemar 258
livestrongnick 191
ray silvester 110

Please check my math(s) and scores! I have been know to commit the occasional mistake and am not above irregular dealings... Thinking That (!) was fun! Except for the ITT/TTT fiasco... Thinking

And the Updated Standings for the Copa Orli Series:

TERatcliffe26 1858
enrique 1542
Twybaydos 1474
stevemarks 1279
livestrongnick 1205
ray silvester 1201
northstar 1177
stumps 1047
Ghedebrav 732
chrisdstripes 725
STEVESPRO 79 703
chiv30 665
Dave Atkinson 570
Joelsim 303
archieboy 298
Him Up North 285
lucas 274
ingemar 258
backflipbedlem 246
Hilltown_Ian 225
J Andrew Hill 43

TER, you still lead by over 300 points! Smile

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
17th August 2014 - 16:08

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The different Classification winners got regional gift baskets: Quintana got a bowl of cherries, Moreno got a local beer called Mika and Mas got cured meat! Smile

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
17th August 2014 - 16:12

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Party

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posted by livestrongnick [1837 posts]
17th August 2014 - 17:35

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Well, I got a response about the TTT/ITT fiasco... It seems the organizers had planned for a TTT but the UCI nixed the idea, they didn't update their website and some of their staffers were ill-informed... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
18th August 2014 - 19:04

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