Are all ANT+ sensors compatible?

by Nat Jas Moe   August 2, 2014  

Now I am looking to improve my performance and am looking at cadence. I have a bryton 20 which says that it is ANT+ and can take both speed and cadence sensor data. My question is twofold first will it handle a dual sensor and secondly will I have to buy a bryton dual sensor(s)? I feel a little silly asking but would like to know. Many thanks in anticipation.

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The ANT+ speed, cadence and combined speed/cadence profiles are well specified standards and should be supported by your Bryton and most sensors you're likely to meet, e.g. Garmin, Bryton, Bontrager.
FWIW I currently run a Bryton 35 with a bontrager combined speed/cadence sensor and it works absolutely fine.

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posted by fukawitribe [475 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 1:35

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I thought that would be the case but wanted to check before splashing the cash and finding that I'd messed up in some way. Cheers for that.

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posted by Nat Jas Moe [33 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 7:52

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I work on ANT+ software and the only issue you may have is the combined ANT+ Speed and Cadence sensor has a completely different protocol from the separate Speed and Cadence sensors.

Normally computers support both.

For example I recently bought a Rox 10 which makes no mention of supporting the combined S&C sensor in the documents/website but it does, I use it with the cheapo Decathlon sensor which is pretty reliable.

posted by vadido [11 posts]
7th August 2014 - 13:35

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You should also beware of some of the cheaper sensors (especially Decathlon) which, whilst compatible, don't broadcast their sensor ID in a way which allows all computers to recognize them. I bought a Decathlon one, only to find that the Garmin wouldn't recognize it. I then found out that I would also need an ANT+ sensor for my PC in order to find out the sensor ID and then type that into my Garmin. Ended up taking it back and getting a Bontrager one instead.

posted by step-hent [694 posts]
7th August 2014 - 15:19

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>You should also beware of some of the cheaper sensors (especially Decathlon) which, whilst compatible, don't broadcast their sensor ID in a way which allows all computers to recognize them.

>completely different protocol

Interesting..Garmin screw it up too. The latest Etrex line (came out a few years ago) can pick up cadence, hrm. (Etrexes generally are oft-used by the audax crowd.)
Can I use a cadence-only sensor ? - can I heck ! - only the (more expensive) combined Garmin sensor works, yet it does nothing with the speed pickup.

posted by JonD [189 posts]
7th August 2014 - 17:26

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JonD wrote:
>You should also beware of some of the cheaper sensors (especially Decathlon) which, whilst compatible, don't broadcast their sensor ID in a way which allows all computers to recognize them.

>completely different protocol

Interesting..Garmin screw it up too. The latest Etrex line (came out a few years ago) can pick up cadence, hrm. (Etrexes generally are oft-used by the audax crowd.)
Can I use a cadence-only sensor ? - can I heck ! - only the (more expensive) combined Garmin sensor works, yet it does nothing with the speed pickup.

Interesting - the only Etrex on the ANT+ product list is the E30, and that's only spec'd to support HRM, temp and Geocache.. half surprised it works with cadence at all. I guess the audax crowd would be less interested in the more performance oriented profiles but even so, it's a weird choice of navigation aid.

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posted by fukawitribe [475 posts]
7th August 2014 - 21:11

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decathlon combined sensor works fine on my garmin 510 usr one on my winter/commute bike

posted by pablo [27 posts]
7th August 2014 - 22:41

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If you look on the ANT+ website they have a list of everything that is compatible for each product.

posted by Anthony.C [14 posts]
8th August 2014 - 10:57

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If you're only interested in a cadence sensor, the new garmin one is a brazilian times neater than the old double monstrosity, and you can pick it up for around £30-35. It works with the Rider 20, though you have to start pedaling before you turn on the Bryton for it to be picked up.

I have a rider 20 with a Garmin HR strap and the new Garmin cadence sensor, and it all works reasonably well.

posted by DrJDog [150 posts]
9th August 2014 - 16:26

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As mentioned above, go to the web:

http://www.thisisant.com/directory/

Find the (receiving) device you have, then you will be able to check the compatible options.

I recently bought a HR monitor from Decathlon to pair to both my Timex and Garmin devices, works a treat. Considered the cadence sensor, but to be honest it looked "cheap" quality (although what did I expect for <£20).

Rob

My stable:Cannondale CAAD8, Focus Izalko Ergoride 2.0, Trek EX6 Full Sus MTB

posted by trek-buyer [5 posts]
9th August 2014 - 16:32

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Have been to this site and Bryton is not on there. Worried Again thanks for all the advice will now try nd make up my mind about which Saul sensor to get.

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posted by Nat Jas Moe [33 posts]
9th August 2014 - 18:53

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