Tour de Pologne

by Ghedebrav   July 31, 2014  

I have never watched this race. Usually I'm taking a break from cycling, on holiday or whatever. Is it usually any good? I've had a look at the profiles and there seems to be one crazy stage (the penultimate one), another standard high mountain stage, an ITT and the rest largely flat-to-punchy.

Apart from the aforementioned crazy stage, I can't much that makes me think 'yeah, I'll try to catch a bit of that'. What is the atmosphere like? Should it be a WT race (the number of really good Polish riders at the moment suggest that maybe it should)?

Oh yeah, and when does it open!? Big Grin

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Saw a lot of cheap sprinters and got pretty excited but then I saw the budget. Wowzers. Tough decisions to be made here.

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posted by Dux89 [115 posts]
2nd August 2014 - 19:10

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Looks to me like the best TTer on the last stage will win this one unless one of the lesser TTers manages to take an awful lot of time on stage 5.

To my mind that leaves Cataldo, Izaguirre, Siutsou, De Gendt, Formolo and even Malori as the favourites.

posted by Joelsim [1440 posts]
2nd August 2014 - 19:17

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For me Cummings and Weening have decent shots. I think if Majka is up to it, his TTing has improved enough to win this. Izagirre/Capecchi will both go well, and De Gendt has a shot if he has his climbing legs, id say the same for Riblon but he has been out of sorts. Aru and Hesjedal could also do something

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
2nd August 2014 - 19:26

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Poels is my big tip though

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
2nd August 2014 - 19:28

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Maybe.

The summit finish only looks like 5% average for 12km, not totally sure there will be massive time gaps, and Majka will need to take some time there to protect himself on stage 7. Poels could go well for sure.

posted by Joelsim [1440 posts]
2nd August 2014 - 19:39

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Here's my team for the day. Hopefully few changes before the Queen stage. 9 sprinters.

Sacha Modolo (LAM)
Luka Mezgec (GSH)
Yauheni Hutarovich (ALM)
Marco Haller (KAT)
Theo Bos (BLK)
Thor Hushovd (BMC)
Fabio Silvestre (TFR)
Juan Jose Lobato (MOV)
Konrad Dabkowski (POL)

posted by Joelsim [1440 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 10:37

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And my Purist team. Ahem, 9 sprinters.

Luka Mezgec (GSH)
Tyler Farrar (GRS)
Thor Hushovd (BMC)
Fabio Silvestre (TFR)
Konrad Dabkowski (POL)
Theo Bos (BLK)
Marco Haller (KAT)
Jacopo Guarnieri (AST)
Juan Jose Lobato (MOV)

posted by Joelsim [1440 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 10:39

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Similar from me for standard

Modolo
Mezgec
Lobato
Bos
Matthews
Gatto
Silvestre
Matysiak
Vakoc

Much bigger difference for purist

Mezgec
Lobato
Bos
Matysiak
Majka
Capecchi
Poels
Zakarin
Hansen

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3991 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 10:52

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Similar from me for standard

Modolo
Mezgec
Lobato
Bos
Matthews
Gatto
Silvestre
Matysiak
Vakoc

Much bigger difference for purist

Mezgec
Lobato
Bos
Matysiak
Majka
Capecchi
Poels
Zakarin
Hansen

I think Cannondale said Boivin was their sprinter for this race.

Let's hope so Laughing

posted by Joelsim [1440 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 11:01

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What does this mean?

Points jersey scored will be the Lotto Most Active Rider (intermediate sprint points)

If the points jersey is only based on intermediate sprint points then it is a complete lotto.

posted by Joelsim [1440 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 11:02

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Joelsim wrote:
Maybe.

The summit finish only looks like 5% average for 12km, not totally sure there will be massive time gaps, and Majka will need to take some time there to protect himself on stage 7. Poels could go well for sure.

Majka may be on a victory tour after the TDF....look at the last 2 winners for the sort of race it is(Moser and Weening).

My standard team has a nice little Scandinavian flavour

Hansen
Hushovd
EBH
Moser
Bos
Hutarovich
Matthews
Gasparotto
Fernandez

My Purist has even more Vikings and is based on perhaps trying to nick a Forum Scorum stage win on the climb or TT stage

Hansen
EBH
Nordhaug
Hushovd
Sammy Sanchez
Jungels
Henao
Hesjedal
Franczak

posted by ray silvester [1855 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 11:18

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Agree. It doesn't make any sense to do scores on intermediate sprints. It is confusing and is pure luck.

posted by Joelsim [1440 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 11:32

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Joelsim wrote:
... Points jersey scored will be the Lotto Most Active Rider (intermediate sprint points)...
Is there a 'true' Points jersey in the competition? Thinking ... If there is, why can't we just stick to scoring that?.... I think we should always (!) honor the 'true' Points jersey in the game, maybe we can add the IMS Jersey if it's offered, but I think we should make it a rule to always award points for the true 'Points' jersey, not ignore it... It is a trip to the Podium and probably a more prestigious, if you will, jersey to have on your shoulders, I guess it's a matter of opinion, but can we go back to always scoring the 'true' Points jersey for every race?... Thinking I think it's a good practice... And it seems fair to me... By the way, does the Vuelta have a Young Rider classification?... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 11:35

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Joelsim wrote:
Agree. It doesn't make any sense to do scores on intermediate sprints. It is confusing and is pure luck.

Any more luck involved than picking someone in the break?......because that's what it will reward....those who pick the breakaway riders(e.g the wildcard polish riders!!) consistently?

posted by ray silvester [1855 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 11:46

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enrique wrote:
Joelsim wrote:
... Points jersey scored will be the Lotto Most Active Rider (intermediate sprint points)...
Is there a 'true' Points jersey in the competition? Thinking ... If there is, why can't we just stick to scoring that?.... I think we should always (!) honor the 'true' Points jersey in the game, maybe we can add the IMS Jersey if it's offered, but I think we should make it a rule to always award points for the true 'Points' jersey, not ignore it... It is a trip to the Podium and probably a more prestigious, if you will, jersey to have on your shoulders, I guess it's a matter of opinion, but can we go back to always scoring the 'true' Points jersey for every race?... Thinking I think it's a good practice... And it seems fair to me... By the way, does the Vuelta have a Young Rider classification?... Thinking

Indeed it does enrique.....I think Chris Horner won it last year Laughing

In all seriousness though they don't have a youth classification

They have Red Jersey for GC,Green for points,Blue & White polka dot for mountains.

There a white jersey for the 'combined' jersey where all of your rankings in each of the three competitions(GC,Points,KOM)are added and the lowest total wins with the proviso that you have a ranking in all 3 competitions.

posted by ray silvester [1855 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 11:59

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Joelsim wrote:
... It doesn't make any sense to do scores on intermediate sprints...

ray silvester wrote:
Any more luck involved than picking someone in the break?...
Just so we're clear, I'm not against scoring the IMS jersey at all, no, no, no... I just wish it didn't come at the expense of scoring the 'true' Points jersey... I'm ok with scoring with both... I just wish we didn't 'ignore' the 'true' Points jersey at will or at the game manager's discretion when the 'Points' jersey is awarded by the race organizers, there's a trip to the Podium invloved and I consider it a prestigious jersey to earn and wear... Why should it be 'ignored' by the game at the game manager's discretion?... Thinking I think it's prudent to score it and then, at the game manager's discretion, add the IMS jersey if it's offered... I see it as a way of being consistent throughout all competitions... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 12:36

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Standard - Taking a lay against Swift, Modolo and Thor

Matthews, Lobato, Haller, Mezgec, Maes, Bos, Dabkowski, Maikin, Guarneri

Purist - no idea, maes and guarneri out for Jungels and Cunego. Cunego can't flat TT, this is silly.

Bum - Barry Markus started for Belkin instead on Graeme Brown, Plugge will lose patience with Bos after the first two stages and set the team up for Barry.

posted by Twybaydos [358 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 12:50

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Armee and Bonifazio have abandoned already

posted by Joelsim [1440 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 13:11

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Amazing weather conditions in Poland - the hailstorm was spectacular - viewing on Eurosport and there's been lots of crashes so far due to fallen trees and debris in the road !

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posted by debbieg [49 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 16:27

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Think that was Mezgec into the barriers in the final sprint Sad
Win for AG2R

debbie g

posted by debbieg [49 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 17:20

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It's not going to be a very high scoring stage!

posted by Joelsim [1440 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 17:20

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2,5,6,14 so far. I think a few of the big sprinters took the day off today

posted by Twybaydos [358 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 17:21

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1,5,14 for me

posted by Joelsim [1440 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 17:23

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Some massive losers today, Swift 11 mins down, Aru 10+ and Matthews nearly 8.

There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.

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posted by stumps [2809 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 17:47

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Well that's put a few potential GC contenders out already including my £2.50 EW bet on Siutsou.

posted by Joelsim [1440 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 18:03

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I'm impressed enrique.

Nil point.

Sprint stage.

A team full of sprinters.

Lol.

posted by Joelsim [1440 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 19:37

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Joelsim wrote:
I'm impressed enrique.

Nil point.

Sprint stage.

A team full of sprinters.

Lol.

Ovechkin and Hansen are more TT riders in fairness.

posted by Twybaydos [358 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 22:33

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Joelsim wrote:
I'm impressed enrique.

Nil point.

Sprint stage.

A team full of sprinters.

Lol.

F*%&#@g awesome, wasn't it?... Waiting Sometimes I wonder why I bother to even put a team together. Might as well have started the competition on Stage 2... I hate this game... sometimes... Waiting

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
3rd August 2014 - 23:07

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Well I'm 13th with 75 points so it should be easy to climb.

posted by Joelsim [1440 posts]
4th August 2014 - 9:49

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To be fair to enrique I 'Zeroed' as well with my purists although they only exist to try and get FSUCI ranking pts on stages 5/6/7

posted by ray silvester [1855 posts]
4th August 2014 - 12:17

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