Tour de France Stage 15

by enrique   July 20, 2014  

I guess no one saw the stage today... Plain Face I'm waiting to see how far I dropped today... I keep hitting 'Reload' on the page somehow hoping that will somehow make the updating faster.. Big Grin I think I've clicked 'Reload' maybe 20 or 25 times already... It doesn't seem to work... But I keep trying... Big Grin At least someone's working on it! Plain Face

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Ok, so what takes longer? The system updating all the rider and league data or the actual loading of today's scores? How long does it usually take to upload the daily scores? So, after you do that, then you click 'Submit', the job is done and then all you have to do is wait for the system to process everything?... Is that what takes 15 minutes or so?... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
20th July 2014 - 17:07

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I hate waiting... Plain Face

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
20th July 2014 - 17:08

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God... the wait is agonizing... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
20th July 2014 - 17:10

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So who's scoring today?... Thinking Oh, yay! We're up! Smile Thank you! Smile

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
20th July 2014 - 17:13

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You know every time you hit reload it causes the server to use more load on your reloads and takes away from the score updating......DUH

Also, it is me on scoring until the end now, both on this and Skoda Devil

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posted by Gkam84 [8935 posts]
20th July 2014 - 18:00

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Gkam84 wrote:
You know every time you hit reload it causes the server to use more load on your reloads and takes away from the score updating..:
I really know next to nothing about IT... You mean to tell me that though the server is not accepting requests, because 'It's updating', it still takes away from the processing to interrupt the updating to answer my request to reload and that takes away from the score updating? Wow... That's crappy... How many seconds do you think it takes away from the updating each time I click? 5 seconds? Hmmm... Thinking Does that mean I am responsible for the updating to be about 1 minute slower than what it should have been?.. That's pretty crappy... Please explain that to me... Thinking And anyways, would you care to explain this, too?... Thanks!

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enrique wrote:
Ok, so what takes longer? The system updating all the rider and league data or the actual loading of today's scores? How long does it usually take to upload the daily scores? So, after you do that, then you click 'Submit', the job is done and then all you have to do is wait for the system to process everything?... Is that what takes 15 minutes or so?... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
20th July 2014 - 19:01

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It doesn't stops the updating, just slows it slightly, taking processor power Laughing

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posted by Gkam84 [8935 posts]
20th July 2014 - 19:18

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Gkam84 wrote:
It doesn't stops the updating, just slows it slightly, taking processor power...
Ok, so if I reload the page it slows the processor that is doing the updating 'slightly'... So, is it fair to say that the processor that is doing the updates also responds to requests from the 'outside' for permssion to view the data by saying 'No, you can't see the data the page you are looking for...', you can only see this page that says 'We are curently updating'? Thinking ...

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Anyways, back to my original question:.

enrique wrote:
... what takes longer? The system updating all the rider and league data or the actual loading of today's scores? How long does it usually take to upload the daily scores? So, after you do that, then you click 'Submit', the job is done and then all you have to do is wait for the system to process everything?... Is that all that happens? So what takes 15 minutes or so is not the upload of the scores but the system processing all the league and rider data?... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
20th July 2014 - 20:47

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Is it really a problem......we're going into a rest day anyway?

You can tell enrique's in contention for Forum's Scorum's TDF pts!!

#UpToFourthOrli

posted by ray silvester [1855 posts]
21st July 2014 - 8:27

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Anyway you can all applaud me now for Coquard and Haussler in for J-Rod and Voeckler whilst reserving the boo's for Kittel(instead of Greipel) in for Rogers.

Still....jumping up the leaderboard in 100 place leaps over the last few days.....rest day at the wrong time...would've had a full house if Bideau had done something.....anything...please Jean-Marc....show us you're alive?

#BideauOutSchleckInForS16

posted by ray silvester [1855 posts]
21st July 2014 - 8:58

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enrique wrote:
Ok, so what takes longer? The system updating all the rider and league data or the actual loading of today's scores? How long does it usually take to upload the daily scores? So, after you do that, then you click 'Submit', the job is done and then all you have to do is wait for the system to process everything?... Is that what takes 15 minutes or so?... Thinking

Caveat, I know nothing about the way they've built the fantasy league here, but I am a software developer.

In theory updating the system should happen reasonably swiftly, there's a fixed number of cyclists involved, a fixed number of points issued per position and so on, then calculate the scores for each user but once again that should be reasonably quick as there's not hundreds of thousands of people playing. I imagine they have to wait on ASO to publish the results, and for whatever data service they use for calculating the rider form scores to update to include that information as well.

Reloading the page won't make it slower to get the results though, in theory. Makes it seem longer though Wink

posted by nicholassmith [69 posts]
21st July 2014 - 12:06

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enrique wrote:
Ok, so what takes longer? The system updating all the rider and league data or the actual loading of today's scores?...

nicholassmith wrote:
... In theory updating the system should happen reasonably swiftly...
Thanks, Nick... Smile I guess I'm trying to figure out why the system takes so long to update, I've got the impression once you put all the scores in, the system should be done with the updating in a couple of minutes. not 15, 20 or 30... Thinking I've got the impression the daily scores are probably done outside of the game, maybe on a spreadsheet, and loaded into the game either by uploading a csv file or manually entering each rider score... I don't know which it is, but I thought I read someone, maybe TER, mention uploading a csv file... It's just annoying when you're as anal and obsesssed as I am... to wait so long... I get desperate... Waiting Then I start wondering if people forget to log out or 'stay'in the system in admin mode, preventing the game pages from being accessed... Waiting I know... I'm a dick.... Big Grin

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ray silvester wrote:
Is it really a problem?...
Yes, ray, it's a problem... I'm surprised a person of your education and upbringing doesn't realize the severity of the situation and how it affects the quality of our lives... It ranks right up there with mispelling a rider's name...

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Smile uncle orli sends his regards... he's a liitle shy in public, after being caught out, but he sends his love...

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
21st July 2014 - 15:12

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Scores are done outside the game, so we have to wait for official standing to come out that we can use to score the race.

The once that is done, upload them to the server and hit update....it is not us that take the time. It is the process of updating thousands of teams and leagues that takes the time.

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posted by Gkam84 [8935 posts]
21st July 2014 - 16:50

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ray silvester wrote:
#UpToFourthOrli
Smile uncle orli sends his regards... he's a liitle shy in public, after being caught out, but he sends his love...

And he's got 'love' points in Forum's Scorum's

#TennisScore

posted by ray silvester [1855 posts]
21st July 2014 - 16:54

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Gkam84 wrote:
Scores are done outside the game... it is not us that take the time. It is the process of updating thousands of teams and leagues that takes the time.
Now a couple of questions...once you do the scores outside the game, do you enter each riders score individually into the system or do you upload a file?... Do you tell the system not be available each time you hit 'update' or is that a 'built-in' feauture? Meaning, once you hit 'update', is access automatically denied to all users who are not logged in as administrators of the system, and we all get the 'We are currently updating the game' message? Or do you have to tell the system to 'become available' to all users after you've finished the updating? Thinking Thanks for taking the time to clear this up... I know so little about how these things work... Plain Face

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ray silvester wrote:
And he's got 'love' points in Forum's Scorum's...
*sigh* I wish I could fix that without a major uproar... Smile

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
21st July 2014 - 18:36

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The updating page appears as soon as the update starts and ends as soon as the update ends....It is not a manual system, it is all done automatically

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posted by Gkam84 [8935 posts]
21st July 2014 - 19:38

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Gkam84 wrote:
The updating page appears as soon as the update starts and ends as soon as the update ends...
Is there a log entry generated every day that states 'Updating started 14:42 20 July 2014 Updating completed 15:02 20 July 2014' or something like that?... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
21st July 2014 - 22:24

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Not a clue. You'd have to ask Dave and he's away for a week or so

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posted by Gkam84 [8935 posts]
21st July 2014 - 22:26

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Jeez a plane full of innocents gets blasted out the sky, waiting for the game update is insignificant guys, make a cup of tea while you are waiting, read the forum, or some of the great articles on the site. You guys already know your scores by that time anyway give or take the odd point, or i'm a Dutchman.

posted by thefatcyclist [584 posts]
21st July 2014 - 23:06

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Gkam84 wrote:
...he's away for a week or so
That's grand... Plain Face Is he on his way to the Pyrennees?... Waiting How come you stayed?... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
22nd July 2014 - 4:14

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