Brit Drivers

by giff77   June 10, 2014  

Whilst ploughing through today's rag I came across this article. When you see some of the professions listed it does kind of make sense. Also a few surprises as well. What do folk out there think.

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Speaking as an actual engineer, I'd like to point out that Engineering is not a protected status (like architects, doctors etc). People who fix photo copying machines are allowed to call themselves engineers which is why we're at the top of the list.

To counter my own argument, although i consider myself a good driver, I've bumped my car more times than i care to remember.

posted by Scoob_84 [214 posts]
11th June 2014 - 10:22

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Really? What about taxi drivers, delivery drivers, sales reps and bus drivers? Builders being among the safest seems to fly in the face of most stuff reported on here. Where did they get these statistics and by what criteria do they define "safe"?

The whole thing smells like bullshit to me.

posted by drfabulous0 [380 posts]
11th June 2014 - 10:41

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Yeah, I thought the same as well. I do know that when I did Youth Work for a living my insurance was loaded for some bizarre reason as I was deemed a risk!!!! I mean go figure. Also have a friend who was a vicar. His insurance was loaded as well. The reason for that one - because his world view was that he would go to heaven when he died meant that he would be more likely to have a fatal crash and take less care on the roads. Seriously.

I'm still trying to get my head round the fact that a builder is a safer driver when he is out of his white van.

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posted by giff77 [1059 posts]
11th June 2014 - 20:29

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How are they working this out? is it by crashes per thousand miles or by responders to a survey because lets face it these surveys aren't worth reading.

P.S. remember a survey/listing in the lancet (Many years ago)
topping the list, highest death rate for smokers by profession? Doctors!
topping the list, highest death rate for alcoholism by profession? Surgeons!

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posted by FATBEGGARONABIKE [594 posts]
11th June 2014 - 21:28

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Us journalists pay over the odds for insurance cover due to prejudices about us going drinking. That all went out the door a long time ago but the insurance is still costly.

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posted by OldRidgeback [2242 posts]
11th June 2014 - 22:31

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Scoob_84 wrote:
Speaking as an actual engineer, I'd like to point out that Engineering is not a protected status... People who fix photo copying machines are allowed to call themselves engineers

Not to be rude, buy you've kinda proven why engineering is not a protected status. What kind of engineer are you (software, mechanical, civil, etc, etc)?

"Actual engineer" is surely just as meaningful or meaningless as photocopying engineer.

posted by giobox [311 posts]
12th June 2014 - 1:58

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giobox wrote:
Scoob_84 wrote:
Speaking as an actual engineer, I'd like to point out that Engineering is not a protected status... People who fix photo copying machines are allowed to call themselves engineers

Not to be rude, buy you've kinda proven why engineering is not a protected status. What kind of engineer are you (software, mechanical, civil, etc, etc)?

"Actual engineer" is surely just as meaningful or meaningless as photocopying engineer.

No I don't think you are rude, but probably not that informed on the subject. Germany and other countries seem to have no problem who to define as engineers and therefore have protected status. Chartered status for engineering disciplines is also a good way of separating engineers from technicians and the like.

Whether they are any better drivers is another matter.

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posted by Sniffer [134 posts]
12th June 2014 - 8:25

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drfabulous0 wrote:
Really? What about taxi drivers, delivery drivers, sales reps and bus drivers? Builders being among the safest seems to fly in the face of most stuff reported on here. Where did they get these statistics and by what criteria do they define "safe"?

The whole thing smells like bullshit to me.

I reckon it was a survey of taxi drivers, it's the only way they couldn't be in the list Laughing

posted by bikebot [643 posts]
12th June 2014 - 8:45

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I work in TV and our insurance gets spiked on the assumption that we are constantly driving around film stars/someone with very high earnings that that the insurance company would need to compensate.

That said, this thread makes it seem every industry has some reason why they are ripped off on insurance.

posted by bollandinho [57 posts]
12th June 2014 - 9:57

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giobox wrote:
Scoob_84 wrote:
Speaking as an actual engineer, I'd like to point out that Engineering is not a protected status... People who fix photo copying machines are allowed to call themselves engineers

Not to be rude, buy you've kinda proven why engineering is not a protected status. What kind of engineer are you (software, mechanical, civil, etc, etc)?

"Actual engineer" is surely just as meaningful or meaningless as photocopying engineer.

Not rude at all mate, I'm an M&E engineer in the construction game. But i don't see that as being an issue, same way as doctors and lawyers get by with their sub-disciplines. At the very least a degree in engineering and membership with a chartered engineering institute should do the trick.

It wouldn't surprise me if tipper truck drivers called themselves engineers these days, which might explain our position at the top of this list.

posted by Scoob_84 [214 posts]
12th June 2014 - 9:57

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Anyone who can fix anything is an 'engineer' these days. I work in IT and Microsoft award 'certified systems engineer' status if you pass the required exams.

The survey, anyway, sounds like bollocks.

Last night I would have considered trading a very loud baby for a really nice bike.

posted by notfastenough [3329 posts]
13th June 2014 - 7:59

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I work in IT and apparently am an "analyst" - lolzies. Wink

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posted by mooleur [542 posts]
13th June 2014 - 8:45

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