Dauphine Purist and Standard Dream Teams

by enrique   June 8, 2014  

An interesting race to calculate these for... And just to see if substituting lesser value riders for the higher value riders works day day...

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Stage 1

40.0 Christopher Froome
32.5 Alberto Contador
21.8 Andrew Talansky
19.0 Lars Boom
12.6 Matthias Brandle
11.9 Bob Jungels
5.7 Danny Pate
3.0
3.0
Total Budget: 149.5 credit Score: 215 points

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
8th June 2014 - 15:31

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My team was quite close to that. Except for Froome, Talansky, Boom, Brandle and Pate.

posted by Joelsim [1400 posts]
8th June 2014 - 18:52

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Percent of Teams that chose the Stage 1 'Within Budget' Dream Team riders:

Christopher Froome 90%
Alberto Contador 60%
Andrew Talansky 13%
Lars Boom 9%
Matthias Brandle 6%
Bob Jungels 14%
Danny Pate 11%

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
8th June 2014 - 23:08

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Stage 2

40.0 Christopher Froome
26.8 Wilco Kelderman
21.8 Andrew Talansky
16.5 Thomas Damuseau
14.3 Alessandro De Marchi
12.5 Kevin Reza
10.5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
3.1 Kristijan Durasek
3.0 Alexis Gougeard
Total 148.5 credits Score: 239 points

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
9th June 2014 - 22:41

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Percent of Teams that chose the Stage 2 'Within Budget' Dream Team riders:

Christopher Froome 94%
Wilco Kelderman 15%
Andrew Talansky 18%
Thomas Damuseau 1%
Alessandro De Marchi 0%
Kevin Reza 1%
Jurgen Van Den Broeck 20%
Kristijan Durasek 24%
Alexis Gougeard 13%

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
9th June 2014 - 22:47

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Stage 3

16.9 Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg
13.2 Yannick Martinez
12.5 Nikias Arndt
11.3 Jens Keukeleire
10.6 Aleksei Tsatevich
9.9 Davide Cimolai
8.0 Kris Boeckmans
7.1 Cesare Benedetti
3.0 Natnael Berhane
Budget 92.5 credits Score 211 points

Highest 'Actual' Score: Bob's Bicycle Company (Tingo) 127 points

40.0 Christopher Froome
32.5 Alberto Contador
23.3 Arnaud Demare
21.8 Andrew Talansky
12.5 Nikias Arndt
8.0 Kris Boeckmans
3.7 Mickael Delage
3.0 Anton Vorobyev
3.0 Ralf Matzka

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
11th June 2014 - 2:15

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Percent of Teams that chose the Stage 3 'Within Budget' Dream Team riders:

Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg 3%
Yannick Martinez 1%
Nikias Arndt 4%
Jens Keukeleire 1%
Aleksei Tsatevich 2%
Davide Cimolai 1%
Kris Boeckmans 2%
Cesare Benedetti 4%
Natnael Berhane 24%

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
11th June 2014 - 8:56

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Stage 4

20.6 Jan Bakelants
15.0 Peter Velits
14.5 Damiano Caruso
14.3 Pim Ligthart
11.6 Maxime Bouet
10.0 Yury Trofimov
8.7 Christian Meier
8.3 Lars Petter Nordhaug
5.3 Gustav Larsson
Total Budget 108.3 credits Score: 239 points

Highest 'Actual' Score: Phasing (Phasing)

40.0 Christopher Froome
32.5 Alberto Contador
26.8 Wilco Kelderman
12.5 Nikias Arndt
12.5 Kevin Reza
10.0 Yury Trofimov
5.3 Gustav Larsson
3.1 Kristijan Durasek
3.0 Valerio Conti

Score: 127 points

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
11th June 2014 - 18:54

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Percent of Teams that chose the Stage 4 'Within Budget' Dream Team riders:

Jan Bakelants 7%
Peter Velits 1%
Damiano Caruso 1%
Pim Ligthart 0%
Maxime Bouet 1%
Yury Trofimov 1%
Christian Meier 3%
Lars Petter Nordhaug 4%
Gustav Larsson 18%

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
11th June 2014 - 19:00

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Stage 6
26.8 Wilco Kelderman
22.5 Zdenek Stybar
20.6 Jan Bakelants
18.8 Jens Voigt
16.5 Thomas Damuseau
14.3 Pim Ligthart
11.3 Jens Keukeleire
11.0 Lieuwe Westra
6.5 Bram Tankink
148.3 Score 236 points

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
15th June 2014 - 1:12

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Percent of Teams that chose the Stage 6 'Within Budget' Dream Team riders:

Wilco Kelderman 41%
Zdenek Stybar 4%
Jan Bakelants 8%
Jens Voigt 4%
Thomas Damuseau 2%
Pim Ligthart 1%
Jens Keukeleire 2%
Lieuwe Westra 9%
Bram Tankink 3%

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
15th June 2014 - 1:12

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Stage 7 'Within Budget' Dream Team
32.5 Alberto Contador
23.0 Ryder Hesjedal
21.8 Andrew Talansky
14.5 Egor Silin
14.3 Alessandro De Marchi
12.6 Matthias Brandle
11.0 Lieuwe Westra
10.0 Yury Trofimov
8.0 Kris Boeckmans
Total Budget 147.7 Score 314 points

Best 'Actual' Team

40.0 Christopher Froome
21.9 Adam Yates
21.8 Andrew Talansky
14.3 Alessandro De Marchi
12.5 Kevin Reza
11.0 Lieuwe Westra
10.5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
10.0 Yury Trofimov
8.0 Kris Boeckmans
Total Budget 150.0 Score 224 points

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
15th June 2014 - 1:26

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Percent of Teams that chose the Stage 7 'Within Budget' Dream Team riders:

Alberto Contador 85%
Ryder Hesjedal 4%
Andrew Talansky 34%
Egor Silin 0%
Alessandro De Marchi 10%
Matthias Brandle 5%
Lieuwe Westra 8%
Yury Trofimov 5%
Kris Boeckmans 5%

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
15th June 2014 - 1:30

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Thanks for showing this. Now please work out a best team within budget for the whole competition using only available transfers without penalty points. It's all well and good showing your highest scoring team in stage 3, but seeing as none of them scored on stage 2 it is somewhat irrelevant

I think Trofimov, Westra and VDB are likely to be in it a lot. The rest is puzzling

posted by Twybaydos [351 posts]
15th June 2014 - 22:56

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Stage 8 'Within Budget' Dream Team

26.8 Wilco Kelderman
22.5 Romain Bardet
21.9 Adam Yates
21.8 Andrew Talansky
19.2 Mikel Nieve
14.3 John Gadret
10.5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
8.9 Kristijan Koren
3.0 Alexis Gougeard
Budget 148.9 credits Score: 289 points

Best 'Actual' Team

32.5 Alberto Contador
26.8 Wilco Kelderman
22.5 Romain Bardet
21.9 Adam Yates
21.8 Andrew Talansky
10.5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
5.3 Gustav Larsson
3.0 Alexis Gougeard
3.0 Alexander Rybakov

Budget 147.3 credits Score: 235 points
Team: Kolovrat (Kolovrat)

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
16th June 2014 - 5:31

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Percent of Teams that chose the Stage 8 'Within Budget' Dream Team riders:

Wilco Kelderman 51%
Romain Bardet 6%
Adam Yates 31%
Andrew Talansky 43%
Mikel Nieve 1%
John Gadret 1%
Jurgen Van Den Broeck 50%
Kristijan Koren 0%
Alexis Gougeard 24%

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
16th June 2014 - 5:34

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Dauphine 'Within Budget' Best Purist Team Possible:

32.5 Alberto Contador
26.8 Wilco Kelderman
21.8 Andrew Talansky
14.5 Egor Silin
14.3 Alessandro De Marchi
11.0 Lieuwe Westra
10.5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
10.0 Yury Trofimov
8.0 Kris Boeckmans
Total Budget 149.4 Score: 1122

*Note no Froome and NO (!) 3.0 riders! Smile

Best 'Actual' Purist Team:

40.0 Christopher Froome
32.5 Alberto Contador
21.8 Andrew Talansky
20.6 Jan Bakelants
14.7 Simon Spilak
10.5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
3.9 Edward Beltran
3.0 Natnael Berhane

Total Budget 147.0 Score: 871 points
Team: Rouse's Roulers (rerouse2)

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
16th June 2014 - 5:55

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Top 10 Highest Stage Scores Dauphine 2014
11.0 Lieuwe Westra 58
20.6 Jan Bakelants 56
10.0 Yury Trofimov 53
14.5 Egor Silin 53
40.0 Christopher Froome 51
26.8 Wilco Kelderman 47
32.5 Alberto Contador 43
14.7 Simon Spilak 42
11.9 Bob Jungels 38
12.5 Nikias Arndt 37

Top 10 Best Value Riders Dauphine 2014

10.0 Yury Trofimov Team Katusha 116 11.6
10.5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck Lotto Belisol 120 11.4
11.0 Lieuwe Westra Astana 95 8.6
3.0 Alexis Gougeard AG2R La Mondiale 25 8.3
26.8 Wilco Kelderman Belkin Pro Cycling 220 8.2
21.8 Andrew Talansky Garmin Sharp 169 7.8
14.3 Alessandro De Marchi Cannondale 92 6.4
32.5 Alberto Contador Team Tinkoff-Saxo 200 6.2
3.0 Natnael Berhane Team Europcar 18 6.0
5.3 Gustav Larsson IAM Cycling 30 5.7

Highest Scoring Riders Not Selected By Any Team When They Were Part of the Stage Dream Team:

Stage 2
Alessandro De Marchi 0%
Stage 4
Pim Ligthart 0%
Stage 7
Egor Silin 0%
Stage 8
Kristijan Koren 0%

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
16th June 2014 - 6:16

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Twybaydos wrote:
Thanks for showing this...

You're welcome...

Twybaydos wrote:
Now please work out a best team within budget for the whole competition using only available transfers without penalty points. It's all well and good showing your highest scoring team in stage 3, but seeing as none of them scored on stage 2 it is somewhat irrelevant...

My start to solve that puzzle would be the 'Best Purist Team' which I have above and which is displayed in the image below... I'd probably have to then switch riders 2 a day seeking the best scoring riders each day that I could swap making only two transfers a day... Thinking See for yourself below...

Twybaydos wrote:
I think Trofimov, Westra and VDB are likely to be in it a lot. The rest is puzzling
I think you're absolutely right that Trofimov and Van Den Broucke and Westra would make that list since they made the 'Best Purist Team'... Obviously, riders like Boeckmans would have to be transfered out some days to get the most bang for your buck for a Standard (Non-Purist Team), you'd have to start probably with Jungels on Stage 1, bring in Arndt and Van Rensburg for Stage 3, etc... but the 'Best Purist Team' is probably the basis to work out what you're thinking about...

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The image below shows you the 'Dream Team' and below it the 2 riders you could transfer in each stage to maximize your points... I haven't done the math(s) to figure out what that team would score with those transfers, but I think it more or less paints the picture as to what is possible...

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
16th June 2014 - 6:41

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Twybaydos wrote:
Now please work out a best team within budget for the whole competition using only available transfers without penalty points....

Well... Thinking Here's a preliminary shot at what could have been the highest scoring Standard (Non Purist) Team... There's so many ways this could be done... Thinking The first graphic shows the teams with the active riders on that stage showing a checkmark... The 2nd one shows the points they would have scored on each stage... This particular scenario would have yielded 1465 points, if my calculations are correct... Thinking

The "Actual' Best Team - Rich's Rouleurs (Kingrolo) scored 936 points....

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
16th June 2014 - 15:51

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Obviusly in the above scenario Contador, Wilkerman, Talansky, De Marchi, Van Den Broeck, Trofimov and Boeckmans stay in the whole race, but Thinking wow... I'm pretty sure there are thousands upon thousands of combinations that you could consider... Thinking

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posted by enrique [1750 posts]
16th June 2014 - 15:57

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