Giro Stage 19 ITT

by stumps   May 30, 2014  

Quite and interesting stage today with a 26k ITT up what can only be described as a bloody steep hill.

With points reaching 14% i dont think the usual TT specialists will be out in force and i dont think we will even see a TT bike.

Made no changes to my team and keeping faith in what i have with 4 transfers for tomorrow should i need to change anything.

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1,2,3,5,7,8,10 +Kelderman +Zoidl

posted by Joelsim [1186 posts]
30th May 2014 - 16:26

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That Rolland can't TT for toffee... Wink

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posted by Ghedebrav [1091 posts]
30th May 2014 - 16:31

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1 Nairo Alexander QUINTANA ROJAS COL MOV 1:05:37
2 Fabio ARU ITA AST +17
3 Rigoberto URAN URAN COL OPQ +1:26
4 Pierre ROLLAND FRA EUC +1:57
5 Domenico POZZOVIVO ITA ALM +2:24
6 Franco PELLIZOTTI ITA AND +3:22
7 Rafal MAJKA POL TCS +3:28
8 Sebastian HENAO GOMEZ COL SKY +3:48
9 Tim WELLENS BEL LTB +4:00
10 Dario CATALDO ITA SKY +4:10
11 Cadel EVANS AUS BMC +4:26
12 Stefano PIRAZZI ITA BAR +4:34
13 Riccardo ZOIDL AUT TFR +4:42
14 Edoardo ZARDINI ITA BAR +4:46
15 Francis MOUREY FRA FDJ +4:46
16 Wilco KELDERMAN NED BEL +4:52
17 Enrico BATTAGLIN ITA BAR +5:11
18 Alexandre GENIEZ FRA FDJ +5:11
19 Hubert DUPONT FRA ALM +5:20
20 Rodolfo Andres TORRES AGUDELO COL COL +5:22

posted by simon F [990 posts]
30th May 2014 - 16:32

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GC
1 Nairo Alexander QUINTANA ROJAS Colombia MOV 79:03:45
2 Rigoberto URAN URAN Colombia OPQ +3:07
3 Fabio ARU Italy AST +3:48
4 Pierre ROLLAND France EUC +5:26
5 Domenico POZZOVIVO Italy ALM +6:16
6 Rafal MAJKA Poland TCS +6:59
7 Cadel EVANS Australia BMC +9:25
8 Wilco KELDERMAN Netherlands BEL +9:29
9 Ryder HESJEDAL Canada GRS +10:11
10 Robert KISERLOVSKI Croatia TFR +13:59

posted by simon F [990 posts]
30th May 2014 - 16:32

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1,2,3,4,5,7,8
probably quite similar to most
plus Arrendondo And good old Barbin!

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posted by backflipbedlem [692 posts]
30th May 2014 - 16:39

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1,2,3,4,7,8,14 plus standings, in hindsight dropping Kelderman+Arredondo for Pozzovivo would have been a good idea.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
30th May 2014 - 16:43

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I see my knack of picking the wrong person hasn't deserted me - choice of Kelderman, Rolland or Hesjedal, and I went for Kelderman. Knew I should have gone for Rolland Crying . Still 1,2,3,5,7,8,10 & 16 gets the Podium badge I'm missing.

posted by allezrider [64 posts]
30th May 2014 - 16:48

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1,2,3,5,7,8,9 ,16 plus arredondo
Finally got my podium badge as well only 2 to get but can't see those coming Devil

posted by chiv30 [859 posts]
30th May 2014 - 16:50

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Joelsim wrote:
1,2,3,5,7,8,10 +Kelderman +Zoidl

Like Isaid , Ithought Zoidl was a good selection well done mate.

1,2,3,5,7,8,10, Poels failed me for full book as kept arredondo...damn u zoidl.

Waaaa Waaaaa !

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posted by VVV73 [391 posts]
30th May 2014 - 16:56

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Full house witgh zoidl, enao and cataldo methinks. Kelderman might not score enuf for me though. But dropped pozzo a whiole back.

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posted by JAndrewHill [1225 posts]
30th May 2014 - 17:09

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1 2 3 4 7 8 10 13 16 Nerd

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Its a marathon, not a snickers

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posted by JAndrewHill [1225 posts]
30th May 2014 - 17:11

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1,2,3,5,7,8,10,13,16. Full house!

I already have a full house, damn!

posted by Joelsim [1186 posts]
30th May 2014 - 17:11

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Joelsim wrote:
1,2,3,5,7,8,10,13,16. Full house!

I already have a full house, damn!

I'm pretty sure like me you have probably picked up a lot more than just the 2 fh badges lol

posted by chiv30 [859 posts]
30th May 2014 - 17:13

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I make my score 220, doubt I'll even get into the top 50 with that but at least I got my 200 pts badge. Just LR, Bookends and the top line to get, not that I'll get any of those this race.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
30th May 2014 - 17:14

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Another full house, should not have dropped Wellens and Arredondo for Hesjedal and Dupont. would have scored 19 with those 2, rather than the 4 I will have scored. Damn never mind, will probably cost me the 200 pointer and will drop places.

Ended up with 1,2,4,5,7,8,16,19 + Ryder. will not be a good score.

Think I will go safe tomorrow, Ryder and Wilco out for Uran and Arredondo me thinks, or could just leave it as Wilco and Ryder, decisions

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3890 posts]
30th May 2014 - 17:20

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And my 200 pt badge. I make it 227.

Shucks, if I hadn't thrown my toys out of the pram and put 6 sprinters in without looking at the stage a couple of days ago I would still have finished with a good placing. First GT, pretty happy though.

posted by Joelsim [1186 posts]
30th May 2014 - 17:47

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224 for me, podium and 200 badges Party 115th on stage
Chuffed with that Wave

'Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you'

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posted by livestrongnick [1778 posts]
30th May 2014 - 18:07

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drheaton wrote:
I make my score 220, doubt I'll even get into the top 50 with that but at least I got my 200 pts badge. Just LR, Bookends and the top line to get, not that I'll get any of those this race.

Same here on the badges Dr..... Thinking

'Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you'

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posted by livestrongnick [1778 posts]
30th May 2014 - 18:09

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Another full house, should not have dropped Wellens and Arredondo for Hesjedal and Dupont. would have scored 19 with those 2, rather than the 4 I will have scored. Damn never mind, will probably cost me the 200 pointer and will drop places.

Ended up with 1,2,4,5,7,8,16,19 + Ryder. will not be a good score.

Think I will go safe tomorrow, Ryder and Wilco out for Uran and Arredondo me thinks, or could just leave it as Wilco and Ryder, decisions

Funny we both chose Ryder but I kept Wellens and dropped Arredondo as I think the mountain point comp should be mathematically his by now. Not going to change anything but could do with Ryder getting in a break tomorrow. We'll see how it goes. Only dropped one place to 4th but the gap opened up.

posted by Alan Tullett [1437 posts]
30th May 2014 - 18:25

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Can you believe this team?

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posted by enrique [1734 posts]
30th May 2014 - 18:28

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enrique wrote:
Can you believe this team?

Yes because I think most ppl thought of that bar zardini.... Drooling

posted by chiv30 [859 posts]
30th May 2014 - 19:09

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enrique wrote:
Can you believe this team?

chiv30 wrote:
... I think most ppl thought of that bar zardini.... Drooling

and Wellens and Henao...

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posted by enrique [1734 posts]
30th May 2014 - 19:49

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enrique wrote:
enrique wrote:
Can you believe this team?

chiv30 wrote:
... I think most ppl thought of that bar zardini.... Drooling

and Wellens and Henao...

I think most of us had wellens and henao , I was toying with cataldo for kelderman but I'd have had to take a penalty Confused

My conundrum now is do I play safe and hope others gamble or vice versa .....I'm only missing 2 badges but I can't see me getting either atm

posted by chiv30 [859 posts]
30th May 2014 - 20:02

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livestrongnick wrote:
drheaton wrote:
I make my score 220, doubt I'll even get into the top 50 with that but at least I got my 200 pts badge. Just LR, Bookends and the top line to get, not that I'll get any of those this race.

Same here on the badges Dr..... Thinking

220 points and not even in the top 200 for the stage Crying

Talk about competitive, although Grand Tours always get like this towards the back end once you're in big mountains, nowhere to make up ground.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
30th May 2014 - 20:34

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Roll on the Dauphine!

Although I can't complain with my first stage win and leading the standings for a short period.

posted by Joelsim [1186 posts]
30th May 2014 - 20:41

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Curiously enough, I would've won the Bookends badge three times this Giro! Apparently poor old Kenny Dehaes didn't make the time cut (which seems a bit harsh to me) so Romero was 'officially' last man home.

Without wishing to be provocative, I do feel that these latter stages have suffered a little because of the jumbo budgets. There will be few active players who don't have four of the top five finishers today, and indeed the top five on GC. OK, everyone will have Quintana and Aru, but I've got Uran, Rolland, Majka and Pozzovivo in my team as well. A budget of 160 or even 170 would mean having to take tougher decisions and also greater variety in the teams.

I shouldn't really complain seeing as this has been my best grand tour performance by miles, but that's a small lesson to be taken into account for the Tour, perhaps - though on the other hand I imagine the rider values will be higher on average for the Tour; presumably Contador, Nibali and Froome will all be in the 30-40 range, making it a bit tougher even with a 180 budget.

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posted by Ghedebrav [1091 posts]
30th May 2014 - 21:30

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I agree

posted by Joelsim [1186 posts]
30th May 2014 - 21:50

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But you just have to make the decisions further down the GC. I had to choose between Rolland and Hesjedal. I couldn't quite afford Pozzo and I didn't fancy Kelderman. I chose Hesjedal and he was going fine till his mechanical then he collapsed, but that's how it goes. My team is more for tomorrow than today so it could have been worse.

As Dave says it doesn't really matter what the budget is. The best players, with a bit of luck, will rise to the top regardless and yesterday there were some big differences in the scores. ITTs usually have a small range. It's the break stages that make or break you in this game.

posted by Alan Tullett [1437 posts]
30th May 2014 - 22:31

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Or the luck of the draw with crashes of course

posted by chiv30 [859 posts]
30th May 2014 - 23:19

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ray silvester wrote:
The flat part isn't even long enough to make up enough time to go TT bike and then change before the climb!!

I bought in Zoidl and Seb Henao for Rabottini and Romero

Rolland
Aru
Uran
Quintana
Kelderman
Majka
Arredondo
Henao
Zoidl

Should be a full house to be honest and a chance of 200pts and skinsuit which would leave the seemingly unattainable top row of badges(unless I can fluke a stage top 10-unlikely without Pozzo or Pelli)

221 pts and only joint 191st on the stage.......tough crowd!!

Still....3 badges in a day so I'll only miss out on the top row.

Even Zoidl in for Romero had the shine taken off it when Jeffrey took the Lanterne Rouge points making it a loss of 2pts!!

posted by ray silvester [1808 posts]
31st May 2014 - 7:57

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