Giro Stage 17

by livestrongnick   May 28, 2014  

Looks too technical to me for a straight forward sprint so a few GC changes for me plus a couple punchers types

Kelderman(pozzo)
Swift(Wellens)
Battaglin(Monlsave)
Quintana(Evans)
Henao(Rabottini)

Aru
Majka
Arredondo
Uran

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Shouldn't Malacarne have gotten 2 points for 2nd KOM? Anyone else notice?

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posted by Dux89 [82 posts]
28th May 2014 - 18:00

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Had Wellens but took out Quintana and Pirazzi for Bouhanni and Nizzolo so covered both ways. Made up a little ground after the debacle of yesterday. Luckily for all of us PolishDave also took out Pirazzi as well.

I was away on holiday for a couple of days so I didn't look at any news so I didn't know about the Rolland thing although I thought he and Hesjedal might attack. I should have put in Cataldo instead of Duarte though as I was going for mountain points as he did have a few already. Luckily Wellens turned up a few points today.

I didn't see yesterday's stage live but I've never seen such scenes. It was like Dave's changing who the Combativity points go to x 10000. I have a bet on Uran to win and one on Hesjedal to podium so I was simultaneously wanting Uran to fight back and Hesjedal to take back as much time as possible. I thought the second bet was dead and buried after stage one but now he's only 45 secs back on third and with the way he is attacking and the way the race is going who knows what will happen. Even the fantasy GC is very tight.

posted by Alan Tullett [1434 posts]
28th May 2014 - 18:06

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Well what I thought was a disaster saw me climb 3 places in the fs up to 4th ....my late surge with a few gambles may be on Thinking

posted by chiv30 [851 posts]
28th May 2014 - 18:13

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terrible day at the fantasy office.... Crying

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posted by keith roberts [178 posts]
28th May 2014 - 18:19

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woo hoo a massive 31 points today Rolling On The Floor Rolling On The Floor

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posted by stumps [2674 posts]
28th May 2014 - 18:31

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Who does one email with scoring questions?

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posted by Dux89 [82 posts]
28th May 2014 - 18:48

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... I said," Love you as a rider but why do you keep going in these crazy breaks at times...." His reply..., "I cannot stop myself..."... with the biggest grin on his face... Brilliant attitude...
Nice little chat... Pretty cool...

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posted by enrique [1520 posts]
28th May 2014 - 18:51

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Dux89 wrote:
Who does one email with scoring questions?
Why don't you post it here?...

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posted by enrique [1520 posts]
28th May 2014 - 18:52

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Nice little graphic from @Movistar_Team

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posted by enrique [1520 posts]
28th May 2014 - 19:05

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looks like there's some KOM points missing for some reason, i'll re-update

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7254 posts]
28th May 2014 - 19:14

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Enrique: I did. See above.

Looks like Dave has it covered though.

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posted by Dux89 [82 posts]
28th May 2014 - 19:49

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Goddamn 8/9 riders scored points. I'm never gonna get full house.

posted by hubertoi [5 posts]
28th May 2014 - 20:49

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The race for podium is tight and interesting, but the winner will, barring unexpected incident, go to Quintana or Uran. Uran does need to out time into Quintana in the TT to stand any sort of chance though.

As for third place, I'd (rashly?) count out Rolland as he can't TT for toffee and is more likely after a stage win. It would be fab to see an Italian on the podium - Pozzovivo or Aru - but I still have a sneaking suspicion that Old Man Cadel will just do enough.

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posted by Ghedebrav [1026 posts]
28th May 2014 - 21:53

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Got the full house, went for sprinters. Only really lost out on about 12 points by bringing in Bouh, Nizz and swift for Uran, Majka and Pozz. I had Wellens still which is all good. Just need a penalty tomorrow.

You say Rolland can't TT for toffee Thinking yes on a normal TT, but this is uphill, think im gonna risk him over Uran for the next few stages

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3785 posts]
28th May 2014 - 22:57

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Ghedebrav wrote:
The race for podium is tight and interesting, but the winner will, barring unexpected incident, go to Quintana or Uran. Uran does need to out time into Quintana in the TT to stand any sort of chance though.

As for third place, I'd (rashly?) count out Rolland as he can't TT for toffee and is more likely after a stage win. It would be fab to see an Italian on the podium - Pozzovivo or Aru - but I still have a sneaking suspicion that Old Man Cadel will just do enough.

I personally think it will be Quintana - Uran for the 1-2. As for third there is only 55 secs between 3rd and 9th so even Hesjedal (9th) could make it onto the podium if everything fell his way.

The TT being uphill is anyoine's guess Thinking

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posted by stumps [2674 posts]
28th May 2014 - 23:01

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Think yourselves lucky, I got -4 today ha ha.

posted by Joelsim [963 posts]
28th May 2014 - 23:37

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Ive gone for Rolland over Uran, but that means I can bring in Hesjedal for the ITT if I wish, shame I will have to axe Wellens though.

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3785 posts]
28th May 2014 - 23:46

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...-4 today...
Wow... Surprise What now?.. Confused More penalties tomorrow? Confused What's your competition rank now?... Confused

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posted by enrique [1520 posts]
29th May 2014 - 1:02

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None of my riders in breakaway so I expected a very bad score.

And it was 60 points. I think Uran was my first rider to finish.

However all of my 9 riders managed to scrounge points somehow. So I ended up with Full House Badge. Applause Well done team. Haha.

posted by Nix [39 posts]
29th May 2014 - 3:49

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Ive gone for Rolland over Uran, but that means I can bring in Hesjedal for the ITT if I wish, shame I will have to axe Wellens though.

I've gone for both! Rolland at the expense of Kelderman. No Wellens (but Arredondo remains).

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posted by Ghedebrav [1026 posts]
29th May 2014 - 7:54

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VVV73 wrote:
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It'll be interesting if Quintana or Rolland(remember he has form for attacking in dubious circumstances in the 'tacks on the road' stage in Wiggo's TDF?) has a mechanical?

Who?
Wasn't LL Cool J = Luis Leon Sanchez , away and the winner that day ?

LuLu won from a break that had already formed long before the tacks........Rolland attacked whilst everyone else waited for Evans to claim a team mates bike......Cummings and Tejay both blanked him I think?

Rolland was left hanging in the gap between Lulu's group and the Group Maillot Jaune under Wiggo's patronage until it got it's act together and caught and then spat him out of the back.....if memory serves?

posted by ray silvester [1752 posts]
29th May 2014 - 9:34

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Ghedebrav wrote:

As for third place, I'd (rashly?) count out Rolland as he can't TT for toffee

it's not a TT* though, it's just riding as fast as possible up a massive hill. he's good at that.

*it is technically a TT. but you won't see any TT bikes

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7254 posts]
29th May 2014 - 10:04

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Got the full house, went for sprinters. Only really lost out on about 12 points by bringing in Bouh, Nizz and swift for Uran, Majka and Pozz. I had Wellens still which is all good. Just need a penalty tomorrow.

You say Rolland can't TT for toffee Thinking yes on a normal TT, but this is uphill, think im gonna risk him over Uran for the next few stages

Love to see Rolland in a downhill TT , he has to be one of the best downhiller on tour , he gets away effortlessly. Seems Veocks passing on his knowledge. Watch those House patio's in france tho , make sure the gate is open. LOL

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posted by VVV73 [389 posts]
29th May 2014 - 10:22

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VVV73 wrote:
ray silvester wrote:
It'll be interesting if Quintana or Rolland(remember he has form for attacking in dubious circumstances in the 'tacks on the road' stage in Wiggo's TDF?) has a mechanical?

Who?
Wasn't LL Cool J = Luis Leon Sanchez , away and the winner that day ?

Still not sure who you were talking about here RAY, you haven't responded!
Only rider in that break that is here , was GORKA. cadel had to change tyre 3 times.

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posted by VVV73 [389 posts]
29th May 2014 - 10:52

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Dave Atkinson wrote:
Ghedebrav wrote:

As for third place, I'd (rashly?) count out Rolland as he can't TT for toffee

it's not a TT* though, it's just riding as fast as possible up a massive hill. he's good at that.

*it is technically a TT. but you won't see any TT bikes

I'll be happy to eat my words as he's in my squad and I'm not planning on taking him out.

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posted by Ghedebrav [1026 posts]
29th May 2014 - 12:48

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Nah I lost interest after the blow out on the Stelvio stage. Didn't even look at yesterday's profile, just put 6 sprinters in. Roll on the Dauphine.

posted by Joelsim [963 posts]
29th May 2014 - 13:12

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VVV73 wrote:
VVV73 wrote:
ray silvester wrote:
It'll be interesting if Quintana or Rolland(remember he has form for attacking in dubious circumstances in the 'tacks on the road' stage in Wiggo's TDF?) has a mechanical?

Who?
Wasn't LL Cool J = Luis Leon Sanchez , away and the winner that day ?

Still not sure who you were talking about here RAY, you haven't responded!
Only rider in that break that is here , was GORKA. cadel had to change tyre 3 times.

Rolland was the guilty party on that day attacking the Maillot Jaune group whilst Wiggo(and Nibali for that matter) attempted to neutralise the racing for their 50 strong group to let Evans recover.....LuLu's escape group(11 strong at the time) were well and truly clear and were perfectly entitled to fight out the stage.

Rumours exist that Haimar Zubeldia was the angriest rider and had to be stopped from confronting Rolland at stage end?

This was the GC situation at the time

General Classification after Stage 13
GBR 1 WIGGINS, Bradley (SKY PROCYCLING) 59:32:32
GBR 2 FROOME, Christopher (SKY PROCYCLING) + 2:05
ITA 3 NIBALI, Vincenzo (LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE) + 2:23
AUS 4 EVANS, Cadel (BMC RACING) + 3:19
BEL 5 VAN DEN BROECK, Jurgen (LOTTO BELISOL) + 4:48
ESP 6 ZUBELDIA AGIRRE, Haimar (RADIOSHACK-NISSAN) + 6:15
USA 7 VAN GARDEREN, Tejay (BMC RACING) + 6:57
SLO 8 BRAJKOVIC, Janez (ASTANA) + 7:30
FRA 9 ROLLAND, Pierre (EUROPCAR) + 8:31
FRA 10 PINOT, Thibaut (FDJ-BIG MAT) + 8:51

posted by ray silvester [1752 posts]
29th May 2014 - 13:38

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VVV73 wrote:
TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Got the full house, went for sprinters. Only really lost out on about 12 points by bringing in Bouh, Nizz and swift for Uran, Majka and Pozz. I had Wellens still which is all good. Just need a penalty tomorrow.

You say Rolland can't TT for toffee Thinking yes on a normal TT, but this is uphill, think im gonna risk him over Uran for the next few stages

Love to see Rolland in a downhill TT , he has to be one of the best downhiller on tour , he gets away effortlessly. Seems Veocks passing on his knowledge. Watch those House patio's in france tho , make sure the gate is open. LOL

I'd take Nibs,Sammy,Sagan,Cunego,Hushovd and Spartacus above Rolland on the downhill all day long?

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29th May 2014 - 13:43

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ray silvester wrote:
VVV73 wrote:
VVV73 wrote:
ray silvester wrote:
It'll be interesting if Quintana or Rolland(remember he has form for attacking in dubious circumstances in the 'tacks on the road' stage in Wiggo's TDF?) has a mechanical?

Who?
Wasn't LL Cool J = Luis Leon Sanchez , away and the winner that day ?

Still not sure who you were talking about here RAY, you haven't responded!
Only rider in that break that is here , was GORKA. cadel had to change tyre 3 times.

Rolland was the guilty party on that day attacking the Maillot Jaune group whilst Wiggo(and Nibali for that matter) attempted to neutralise the racing for their 50 strong group to let Evans recover.....LuLu's escape group(11 strong at the time) were well and truly clear and were perfectly entitled to fight out the stage.

Rumours exist that Haimar Zubeldia was the angriest rider and had to be stopped from confronting Rolland at stage end?

This was the GC situation at the time

General Classification after Stage 13
GBR 1 WIGGINS, Bradley (SKY PROCYCLING) 59:32:32
GBR 2 FROOME, Christopher (SKY PROCYCLING) + 2:05
ITA 3 NIBALI, Vincenzo (LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE) + 2:23
AUS 4 EVANS, Cadel (BMC RACING) + 3:19
BEL 5 VAN DEN BROECK, Jurgen (LOTTO BELISOL) + 4:48
ESP 6 ZUBELDIA AGIRRE, Haimar (RADIOSHACK-NISSAN) + 6:15
USA 7 VAN GARDEREN, Tejay (BMC RACING) + 6:57
SLO 8 BRAJKOVIC, Janez (ASTANA) + 7:30
FRA 9 ROLLAND, Pierre (EUROPCAR) + 8:31
FRA 10 PINOT, Thibaut (FDJ-BIG MAT) + 8:51


Ok cool I remember that too, just I didn't know who you were talking about.
Yes LL was long gone, MY THINKING that's why it happen, it was I am sure the BASQUE fans with the tacks, previous form for it and I am sure some nice bets were landed by the Basque mafia Surprise

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posted by VVV73 [389 posts]
29th May 2014 - 13:52

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ray silvester wrote:
VVV73 wrote:
TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Got the full house, went for sprinters. Only really lost out on about 12 points by bringing in Bouh, Nizz and swift for Uran, Majka and Pozz. I had Wellens still which is all good. Just need a penalty tomorrow.

You say Rolland can't TT for toffee Thinking yes on a normal TT, but this is uphill, think im gonna risk him over Uran for the next few stages

Love to see Rolland in a downhill TT , he has to be one of the best downhiller on tour , he gets away effortlessly. Seems Veocks passing on his knowledge. Watch those House patio's in france tho , make sure the gate is open. LOL

I'd take Nibs,Sammy,Sagan,Cunego,Hushovd and Spartacus above Rolland on the downhill all day long?


Look how old he is mate and how old they are, you have to learn somewhere and he is Veocks teammate, any how you didn't even mention maybe the fastest atm .. PHINNEY, we seen that at USA and won't for awhile after breaking his leg. Smile

I was just commenting on how easy he just rolls away from peleton every downhill or is right at the front, he just a natural, no where did I say he was the best(one of , I should have said younger maybe Smile, We ALL KNOW about Nibs, Sagan , Cunego and co. have for years and I play PCM(pro cycling manager) gives you all their stats so u get a bit of an Idea Smile

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29th May 2014 - 13:55

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