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This coming week's Giro

Transfer hell!

There are going to have to be penalties every day, hmmm.

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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Joelsim | 9 years ago
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You've got to be in it to win it!

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drheaton | 9 years ago
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Went all in on a sprint today, made all of my six changes to bring in sprinters.

At this point in time, with a penalty only costing 10 points, I figured it was worth chancing 6 top 10 finishes against three or four penalty transfers through the week.

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VVV73 replied to drheaton | 9 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

Went all in on a sprint today, made all of my six changes to bring in sprinters.

At this point in time, with a penalty only costing 10 points, I figured it was worth chancing 6 top 10 finishes against three or four penalty transfers through the week.

Starting to think my best result is to sit quiet and pray for break to last.  19

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Joelsim | 9 years ago
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I've managed to get 4 sprinters in for today and should be able to get 4 in for Friday too with no penalties, plus ensuring I have a chance of some decent points tmw and Thursday.

That's the plan anyway!  17

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VVV73 replied to Joelsim | 9 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

I've managed to get 4 sprinters in for today and should be able to get 4 in for Friday too with no penalties, plus ensuring I have a chance of some decent points tmw and Thursday.

That's the plan anyway!  17

It's is certain make or break time is fantasy, you could go a few ways here over next couple stages, BIG shake up I feel.
My purist team is starting to fall apart now, losing Matthews and Chicci (didn't expect much more, got his pts.) Lucky my last sprinter in there is Nizzolo and I know he would love to win his first Giro stage soon  1

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chrisdstripes | 9 years ago
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I made 4 transfers, with 1 in hand - just brought in 4 sprinters for today. Tomorrow seems unpredictable, so will minimise swaps, and then its the TT. Pretty sure who I'm bringing in now for the next 3 stages, but crashes can change everything...

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Ghedebrav | 9 years ago
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Just three transfers today, leaving me one in the bank. May not be my cleverest move, but I'm getting myself used to the idea of trying for a reasonable score every day rather than the usual peaks and troughs. I think I've got the 1-2-3 anyway  4

Barring a not-impossible breakaway win, I reckon Bouhanni's nailed on for this. He's still not in the same class as Kittel/Cav/Greipel though, a shame Kittel retired.

Anyone else fancy Pozzivivo for the podium, by the way? His odds have been slashed ( though I got a small sum on him e/w at 28/1 before kickoff).

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VVV73 replied to Ghedebrav | 9 years ago
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Barring a not-impossible breakaway win, I reckon Bouhanni's nailed on for this. He's still not in the same class as Kittel/Cav/Greipel though, a shame Kittel retired.

Anyone else fancy Pozzivivo for the podium, by the way? His odds have been slashed ( though I got a small sum on him e/w at 28/1 before kickoff).

Kittel = Fastest in the world maybe...
Cav = Best in the world...
Greipel = My fav sprinter and nicest? in the world  1 We love him in down under, supported our tour every year.

Pozzo, might actually enjoy this TT and showed he still got the legs and form he showed earlier in season on stage 9. Bookies might have thought he had gone over the top (peaked) when he got left a tad on stage 8.
Quintana hasn't really got me enthused at all so far this season.
Pozz have to be a E/W show , It's a long way home.

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VVV73 | 9 years ago
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TT is a good place to make some ground Joel for sure, only problem I got is trying to fit 3 riders from the one team in LOL . They all off something great each:(
One is a jersey leader (Who I have), one is a sprinter and a TTer , and one is a cheap great value TTer (who I have).
This could be a massive turning point in tour these next Cpl days, fantasy wise.

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Theinvisiblecyclist | 9 years ago
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Well I thought , I swapped I changed I reset..... I eventually decided to risk 7 transfers and aim for a fh badge as well as a high score , 1 penalty offset by gc points etc ...... Who knows how this week is going to pan out but I've decided penalties are the way forwards.

Bold or stupid?  39

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Joelsim replied to Theinvisiblecyclist | 9 years ago
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Theinvisiblecyclist wrote:

Well I thought , I swapped I changed I reset..... I eventually decided to risk 7 transfers and aim for a fh badge as well as a high score , 1 penalty offset by gc points etc ...... Who knows how this week is going to pan out but I've decided penalties are the way forwards.

Bold or stupid?  39

I decided against this move, as for every transfer you make today, you have to do another for tomorrow, and another for Wednesday, and another for Thursday and Friday. There is very little common ground.

So I've gone for some sprinters but also who have a small possibility of being useful for Wednesday, kept the GC boys in and have also kept Gasparotto for tomorrow. A couple of changes planned each day up until Friday. Not going big on the TT, just two.

There was talk of a certain OPQS rider making the TT his goal, not sure whether it's worth going for.

So, for me I hope I can get through the week with no penalties with a good squad for each day (Wednesday of course, who knows). A couple of transfers in the bank just in case, and plans already made for next week barring hiccoughs.

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Theinvisiblecyclist replied to Joelsim | 9 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:
Theinvisiblecyclist wrote:

Well I thought , I swapped I changed I reset..... I eventually decided to risk 7 transfers and aim for a fh badge as well as a high score , 1 penalty offset by gc points etc ...... Who knows how this week is going to pan out but I've decided penalties are the way forwards.

Bold or stupid?  39

I decided against this move, as for every transfer you make today, you have to do another for tomorrow, and another for Wednesday, and another for Thursday and Friday. There is very little common ground.

So I've gone for some sprinters but also who have a small possibility of being useful for Wednesday, kept the GC boys in and have also kept Gasparotto for tomorrow. A couple of changes planned each day up until Friday. Not going big on the TT, just two.

There was talk of a certain OPQS rider making the TT his goal, not sure whether it's worth going for.

So, for me I hope I can get through the week with no penalties with a good squad for each day (Wednesday of course, who knows). A couple of transfers in the bank just in case, and plans already made for next week barring hiccoughs.

I'll be honest I eventually thought
" I've a good chance of getting a big score today if it pans out as it should while I believe a lot of ppl will play it cagey which in turn will mitigate against transfers over the next 2/3 days"

If it does work out then I should see a net gain by playing bold for this stage with the gc points negating the penalty and allowing me the choice of at least 2 penalties over the following two days ... That's 20 point loss for 13 changes in 3 stages , it will be interesting to see which of our strategies works out at least  1

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VVV73 replied to Theinvisiblecyclist | 9 years ago
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how did I get this mess  2 Just said , Hate to be around if a break wins  1
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I'll be honest I eventually thought
" I've a good chance of getting a big score today if it pans out as it should while I believe a lot of ppl will play it cagey which in turn will mitigate against transfers over the next 2/3 days"

If it does work out then I should see a net gain by playing bold for this stage with the gc points negating the penalty and allowing me the choice of at least 2 penalties over the following two days ... That's 20 point loss for 13 changes in 3 stages , it will be interesting to see which of our strategies works out at least :)[/quote]

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VVV73 replied to Joelsim | 9 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:
Theinvisiblecyclist wrote:

Well I thought , I swapped I changed I reset..... I eventually decided to risk 7 transfers and aim for a fh badge as well as a high score , 1 penalty offset by gc points etc ...... Who knows how this week is going to pan out but I've decided penalties are the way forwards.

Bold or stupid?  39

I decided against this move, as for every transfer you make today, you have to do another for tomorrow, and another for Wednesday, and another for Thursday and Friday. There is very little common ground.

So I've gone for some sprinters but also who have a small possibility of being useful for Wednesday, kept the GC boys in and have also kept Gasparotto for tomorrow. A couple of changes planned each day up until Friday. Not going big on the TT, just two.

There was talk of a certain OPQS rider making the TT his goal, not sure whether it's worth going for.

So, for me I hope I can get through the week with no penalties with a good squad for each day (Wednesday of course, who knows). A couple of transfers in the bank just in case, and plans already made for next week barring hiccoughs.

Smart move I feel, don't want to be to sprinter heavy as none of them that can TT will get over this one, maybe EBH.
Pissed myself laughing, when I read your OPQs comment. If it is who I think it is , he has shown a bit of his old form lately, tho I don't think I will be using him. Good Luck  1

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Twybaydos | 9 years ago
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Got the spreadsheet out. No penalties all week. However, this sort of conservative attitude is why I'm 167th.

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Ghedebrav | 9 years ago
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It is an interesting week, and I'm certain that penalties will be necessary. It's easier for a sprint stage where, barring a very unlikely sticky break, you know who the guys are who will roll in in the top ten and probably at least let you break even on the ten point pens.

The ITT is the real thumbsucker, though. I'm inclined to trust in a couple of the GC guys but otherwise a it's bit of a crapshoot and I might just look to write that stage off rather than spend pens on it. I have a bad track record with TTs in this game!

On Ulissi - he is riding well in GC but I expect him to drop out if not by the end of this week then by the mountain TT. He'll still be targeting stage wins, and at this point why not try for a day in pink? (OK, I know, he's usually in Lampre pink).

While the Giro itself won't be won this week, I think the Fantasy Giro might be...

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Theinvisiblecyclist replied to Ghedebrav | 9 years ago
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Ghedebrav wrote:

While the Giro itself won't be won this week, I think the Fantasy Giro might be...

I have to agree , roughly 100 points separate the top 14 or 15 in fs league .....I'm a few points behind you and only 37 of joel which is why I've spent the last 2 hours deliberating on how to use my transfers over the next 3 days ....currently have 6 to use but no idea still on what to  35  38

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Joelsim replied to Theinvisiblecyclist | 9 years ago
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Theinvisiblecyclist wrote:
Ghedebrav wrote:

While the Giro itself won't be won this week, I think the Fantasy Giro might be...

I have to agree , roughly 100 points separate the top 14 or 15 in fs league .....I'm a few points behind you and only 37 of joel which is why I've spent the last 2 hours deliberating on how to use my transfers over the next 3 days ....currently have 6 to use but no idea still on what to  35  38

It's not an easy choice for sure.

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Joelsim | 9 years ago
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4 transfers done and 2 transfers saved.

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livestrongnick | 9 years ago
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So transfers done x3 which gives me 1 saved. Brought in 3 sprinters under 20 credits each, which should score more than the 16 points i would of got if i'd not made any transfers. Assuming they do all score then i'll finally get that damn Full House Badge  35

Chicchi gone from my team too.

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chrisdstripes | 9 years ago
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Yeah, there are a couple of TT specialists, but if its hilly they might not get so much of an advantage, and there aren't too many GC guys that really TT well (not like Froome/Wiggo or even Nibali/Contador) so that could be an unpredictable stage. In hindsight maybe not the best one for stage-hunting!

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Joelsim | 9 years ago
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I spent about 3 hours planning my team last night and think I have come up with a plan. No doubt it won't work. But starting from 100 penalty points in my first draft, I now have it down to 10 with hopefully not too much of a compromise on sprinters.

There don't seem to be as many good TTers as normal in this one.

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Joelsim | 9 years ago
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Annoyingly I had 150/1 on Harry Dondo, which fell by the wayside in one stage!

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chrisdstripes | 9 years ago
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I'm doing badly in this, so will probably go stage-hunting, eg make my TT transfers a day early so I don't incur pens on the day, that kind of thing. Will end up with some very poor stages, but hopefully a couple of really good ones as well.

My main hope of getting something out of this is backing Kelderman at 150/1 each-way a few weeks ago...

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johnny2names replied to chrisdstripes | 9 years ago
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chrisdstripes wrote:

I'm doing badly in this, so will probably go stage-hunting, eg make my TT transfers a day early so I don't incur pens on the day, that kind of thing. Will end up with some very poor stages, but hopefully a couple of really good ones as well.

My main hope of getting something out of this is backing Kelderman at 150/1 each-way a few weeks ago...

nice  41 i got some 200 win only on betfair- and he wont win! but also got some 9/4 on a top 10 placing and that is looking good.

now, onto next week- sorry, havent got a clue what to do!

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VVV73 | 9 years ago
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WOW, just realised I am 2nd OVERALL in Purist non-prem races for the year  1

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Theinvisiblecyclist | 9 years ago
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Tight at the top so the next few stages and penalties could come into deciding who wins fs and the overall .....  1

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Joelsim | 9 years ago
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Right, team for next 5 stages picked and written down!  13

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VVV73 replied to Joelsim | 9 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

Right, team for next 5 stages picked and written down!  13

LOL nice prep  26

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TERatcliffe26 | 9 years ago
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If im honest, I don't think he thought he would still be in he GC battle and neither did I, as im sure it was a stage he would have been targeting.

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