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Is today definitely a bunch sprint? Or is it the day for the Jens Voight AToC Testimonial Breakaway? Time will tell.

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chrisdstripes [1733 posts] 2 years ago
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He's going to go one day isn't he?! Maybe tomorrow is the best bet...

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simon F [1003 posts] 2 years ago
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Tomorrow or maybe stage 7 look likeliest but today could be a long shot.

I'm finding this race dull. It may be sour grapes because I'm not doing well and it's a race I've done OK in for the last two years but there doesn't seem to be more than about 5 minutes of action in any of the stages. The TV production is poor - long close-ups of Rohan Dennis gasping for breath while we miss the next 15-20 finishers, cuts to the laughing group because it's full of Americans, no times at the TT finish and ignore most of the finishers, follow Cav all the way round and ignore the 10 or so riders still ahead on the road.
And then there's Sherwin and Liggett - learn 3 phrases, 2 facts and 1 anecdote per stage (all slightly wrong) and repeat them ad nauseam. You could train a parrot to commentate better than them. It just has to say "have they used all their firepower", "they're burning their matches too soon" and "I'm surprised at that, he used to be a good time-triallist at junior level" perhaps along with "Sir Bradley Wiggins, Olympic gold-medallist etc..." and intersperse it with the odd squawk. Why TF does anybody on the planet still employ them?

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chrisdstripes [1733 posts] 2 years ago
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I usually really enjoy this race, but the picture disturbance has been really annoying, presumably caused by the high tree-line.

And Sherwen and Liggett, well they are just truly awful.

Its a shame, as the first stage was really exciting racing, the TT was good, and although yesterday wasn't really steep enough for too many attacks, it was still a good stage with Brad riding really well. But I haven't enjoyed watching any of them as much as I should have done.

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Joelsim [1975 posts] 2 years ago
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The TV coverage is poor, not just the picture quality, but the level of information too. The ticker during the TT would have been far more useful highlighting the times people had/leaderboard as opposed to 'notable riders' for 2 hours.

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simon F [1003 posts] 2 years ago
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The picture disturbance I can live with. It happens in all races - a problem with relying on short-range line-of-sight transmission. The annoying thing is the directors choice of camera - following the wrong riders all the way round the TT course and ignoring most others, missing almost all of the top finishers on Mt Diablo etc. The TT was OK for 2/3 riders only. Yes, Brad was impressive up there but the lack of any attacks to respond to meant, as gkam recently tweeted, that we might as well have been watching a training ride - I don't recollect live coverage of Sky's training camps on Mt Teide but that's what it effectively was.
There aren't enough good riders to make much of this worth watching for more than about the last 5 minutes, a handful of stars, some fairly good Pro-Team B squad riders and a bunch of no-hope 3rd string locals who want to catch the eye of a Pro-Team but won't and probably don't even have passports.
The only thing to keep any interest is wondering which stage Jens will attack on and what kind of cookies he'll get at the end.

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 2 years ago
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I'm in half a mind to stick him in now so I've got him for when he does and just Shape my team around him  35

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TERatcliffe26 [4660 posts] 2 years ago
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Well there goes my hopes for ToC, what time was the deadline for stage 4? I don't know why it was set so early

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TERatcliffe26 [4660 posts] 2 years ago
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It should have been set to 7pm, considering there is still 4 hours still the stage starts. I don't know why it wasn't and Im majorly p*****d off right now

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dp24 [201 posts] 2 years ago
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I agree, the TV coverage hasn't been great. Even aside from the annoying picture break-up, the direction of shots has been pretty bad. The lack of times at the end of the TT was very poor.

On the flip side, the app they've done for the race is excellent.

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Joelsim [1975 posts] 2 years ago
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I'm bemused by the posts above. The deadline is in 2 hours.

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Joelsim [1975 posts] 2 years ago
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Can someone check yesterday's scoring too please?

Acevedo and Stetina should have both got 21 points shouldn't they?

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dave atkinson [6262 posts] 2 years ago
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I've put the deadline back. If anyone accidentally made changes for 5 instead of 4 I'll reassign them

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TERatcliffe26 [4660 posts] 2 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

Can someone check yesterday's scoring too please?

Acevedo and Stetina should have both got 21 points shouldn't they?

Stetina has been changed to 21

Acevedo got 26, 20 for stage, 1 for GC, 5 for teammate bonus

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TERatcliffe26 [4660 posts] 2 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

I'm bemused by the posts above. The deadline is in 2 hours.

Yeah Dave put it back when I informed him.

was ranting as it was my mistake in the first place which annoyed me, as it would have let other down being so early

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Theinvisiblecyclist [73 posts] 2 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Joelsim wrote:

I'm bemused by the posts above. The deadline is in 2 hours.

Yeah Dave put it back when I informed him.

was ranting as it was my mistake in the first place which annoyed me, as it would have let other down being so early

 41 kudos for owning upto that fella and ty fir the deadline reset

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VVV73 [408 posts] 2 years ago
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REALLY COULDN'T WAIT 4 MINUTES FOR TOC. CLOSE BEFORE UPDATING!

Right in the middle of my trades!!!!!!!!!!!  2
Ridiculous!

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VVV73 [408 posts] 2 years ago
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Thank YOU VERY MUCH...common sense.some people tweaking!

%@!&$#&^# ME.........

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VVV73 [408 posts] 2 years ago
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I AM SPEWING..I had read earlier posts so I knew exactly how long I had!

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VVV73 [408 posts] 2 years ago
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VVV73 wrote:

REALLY COULDN'T WAIT 4 MINUTES FOR TOC. CLOSE BEFORE UPDATING!

Right in the middle of my trades!!!!!!!!!!!  2
Ridiculous!

ONE MINUTE AFTER U CLOSED IT 18.01 MY ARSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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enrique [2349 posts] 2 years ago
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Wow.

It would be nice to have an extra 1/2 hour at least because of this unique situation with two races running at the same time and the Giro's updating potentially interrupting any late transfers people might want to make...  39 Or, maybe wait until Cali starts before loading the Giro updates...

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VVV73 [408 posts] 2 years ago
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enrique wrote:

Wow.

It would be nice to have an extra 1/2 hour at least because of this unique situation with two races running at the same time and the Giro's updating potentially interrupting any late transfers people might want to make...  39 Or, maybe wait until Cali starts before loading the Giro updates...

Not Like the scores are gunna change ...PRIORITIES... might give them more time to add them up properly actually.

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VVV73 [408 posts] 2 years ago
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VVV73 wrote:

REALLY COULDN'T WAIT 4 MINUTES FOR TOC. CLOSE BEFORE UPDATING!

Right in the middle of my trades!!!!!!!!!!!  2
Ridiculous!

SEE TIME ! 2.57!

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Twybaydos [448 posts] 2 years ago
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I updated just after the site update this afternoon, at 3.15pm. Thinking I was updating for stage 4.

I've just looked, my transfers are for stage 5 not stage 4.
I was not aware window had reopened. - Dave - is there any way to but my transfers back against Stage 4 (when other people would have made stage 4 changes after me)

Degenkolb really isn't my choice for tomorrow

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Stumps [3415 posts] 2 years ago
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Well i missed all the deadlines whatever time they were so my team for todays bunch sprint stage consists of climbers lol.

Its only a game so just laugh it off is what i say  4

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VVV73 [408 posts] 2 years ago
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stumps wrote:

Well i missed all the deadlines whatever time they were so my team for todays bunch sprint stage consists of climbers lol.

Its only a game so just laugh it off is what i say  4

I just spent 2 hrs riding riders form at 1-3am in morning, knew exactly when it shut!
MY TIME ISNT FREE

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TERatcliffe26 [4660 posts] 2 years ago
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Twybaydos wrote:

I updated just after the site update this afternoon, at 3.15pm. Thinking I was updating for stage 4.

I've just looked, my transfers are for stage 5 not stage 4.
I was not aware window had reopened. - Dave - is there any way to but my transfers back against Stage 4 (when other people would have made stage 4 changes after me)

Degenkolb really isn't my choice for tomorrow

Think Dave was trying to rectify anyone's who made transfers for stage 5 and not 4.

it was my fault I made a mistake on the transfer deadline and made it far too early. I did apologise for this earlier, and thats why Dave got stage 4 reopened. I believe you were doing your transfers when I did, it was actually only on stage 5 for about 20 minutes.

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Twybaydos [448 posts] 2 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Twybaydos wrote:

I updated just after the site update this afternoon, at 3.15pm. Thinking I was updating for stage 4.

I've just looked, my transfers are for stage 5 not stage 4.
I was not aware window had reopened. - Dave - is there any way to but my transfers back against Stage 4 (when other people would have made stage 4 changes after me)

Degenkolb really isn't my choice for tomorrow

Think Dave was trying to rectify anyone's who made transfers for stage 5 and not 4.

it was my fault I made a mistake on the transfer deadline and made it far too early. I did apologise for this earlier, and thats why Dave got stage 4 reopened. I believe you were doing your transfers when I did, it was actually only on stage 5 for about 20 minutes.

I think I am one of the people who has transfers set against stage 5 instead of stage 4, I thought they were for stage 4 when I did them. Yates and Degenkolb in for Jens! and Phinney

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TERatcliffe26 [4660 posts] 2 years ago
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I emailed it to Dave, Twy, so hopefully he will be able to get that sorted for you

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Philip Unwin [991 posts] 2 years ago
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Break
Clarke, Jones (UHC)
Mesmaeker (TNN)
Routley (OPM)
Cooke (JSH)
Daniel (BDT)
4' 04'' after 30 miles

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Philip Unwin [991 posts] 2 years ago
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Sprint
1 Jones
2 Routley
3 Mesmaeker

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