Giro D'Italia Stage 2

by stumps   May 10, 2014  

I'm away out early so i thought i would start todays stage off before i went.

Does everyone agree its a bunch sprint finish or will someone try to grab the limelight with a breakaway.

Will Orica try to cut down any breaks for Matthews, do they have the team to do that ? only time will tell.

I doubt he will be looking at this but my sympathies go to Dan Martin Sad

Also can someone explain why Matthews got 30 points and Hepburn 20 ? i thought all the team members scored the same in a TTT.

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Not too bad, Ferrari and Appollonio worth the pens, even though I would have preferred Viviani to do better. Might have to bring in Bouhanni tomorrow as I thought!

1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 and points for Durbridge.

posted by Alan Tullett [1434 posts]
10th May 2014 - 16:13

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GOt my podium badge out of the way, but not many others in the sprint.

Petacchi... *shakes fist*

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posted by Ghedebrav [1037 posts]
10th May 2014 - 16:13

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Pretty average for me - 1,2,4,7,8 maybe? I think I saw Dehaes and Hurel coming in around 13th/14th as well. Looks like it might be time to get rid of Petacchi...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1540 posts]
10th May 2014 - 16:14

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rcorbin wrote:
1,2,3,4,5,7,8 for me

o and you can add 12 for chichi too!

1 KITTEL Marcel GER GIA 5:13:12 0:00 10"
2 BOUHANNI Nacer FRA FDJ 5:13:12 0:00 6"
3 NIZZOLO Giacomo ITA TFR 5:13:12 0:00 4"
4 VIVIANI Elia ITA CAN 5:13:12 0:00
5 FERRARI Roberto ITA LAM 5:13:12 0:00
6 BELLETTI Manuel ITA AND 5:13:12 0:00
7 SWIFT Ben GBR SKY 5:13:12 0:00
8 MATTHEWS Michael AUS OGE 5:13:12 0:00
9 APPOLLONIO Davide ITA ALM 5:13:12 0:00
10 FARRAR Tyler USA GRS 5:13:12 0:00
11BOL JetseNEDBEL5:13:120:00
12CHICCHI FrancescoITANRI5:13:120:00
13VAN DER SANDE ToshBELLTB5:13:120:00
14DUQUE Leonardo FabioCOLCOL5:13:120:00
15RUFFONI NicolaITABAR5:13:120:00
16HUREL TonyFRAEUC5:13:120:00
17AVILA VANEGAS Edwin AlcibiadCOLCOL5:13:120:00
18COLBRELLI SonnyITABAR5:13:120:00
19BOASSON HAGEN EdvaldNORSKY5:13:120:00
20KELDERMAN Wilco

posted by rcorbin [208 posts]
10th May 2014 - 16:22

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Hmmm. 3 transfers made for tomorrow. Ventoso and Petacchi you're history!

posted by Joelsim [967 posts]
10th May 2014 - 16:23

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rcorbin wrote:
rcorbin wrote:
1,2,3,4,5,7,8 for me

o and you can add 12 for chichi too!

1 KITTEL Marcel GER GIA 5:13:12 0:00 10"
2 BOUHANNI Nacer FRA FDJ 5:13:12 0:00 6"
3 NIZZOLO Giacomo ITA TFR 5:13:12 0:00 4"
4 VIVIANI Elia ITA CAN 5:13:12 0:00
5 FERRARI Roberto ITA LAM 5:13:12 0:00
6 BELLETTI Manuel ITA AND 5:13:12 0:00
7 SWIFT Ben GBR SKY 5:13:12 0:00
8 MATTHEWS Michael AUS OGE 5:13:12 0:00
9 APPOLLONIO Davide ITA ALM 5:13:12 0:00
10 FARRAR Tyler USA GRS 5:13:12 0:00
11BOL JetseNEDBEL5:13:120:00
12CHICCHI FrancescoITANRI5:13:120:00
13VAN DER SANDE ToshBELLTB5:13:120:00
14DUQUE Leonardo FabioCOLCOL5:13:120:00
15RUFFONI NicolaITABAR5:13:120:00
16HUREL TonyFRAEUC5:13:120:00
17AVILA VANEGAS Edwin AlcibiadCOLCOL5:13:120:00
18COLBRELLI SonnyITABAR5:13:120:00
19BOASSON HAGEN EdvaldNORSKY5:13:120:00
20KELDERMAN Wilco


Where did you find these?

posted by arsene [217 posts]
10th May 2014 - 16:31

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posted by rcorbin [208 posts]
10th May 2014 - 16:33

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arsene wrote:
rcorbin wrote:
rcorbin wrote:
1,2,3,4,5,7,8 for me

o and you can add 12 for chichi too!

1 KITTEL Marcel GER GIA 5:13:12 0:00 10"
2 BOUHANNI Nacer FRA FDJ 5:13:12 0:00 6"
3 NIZZOLO Giacomo ITA TFR 5:13:12 0:00 4"
4 VIVIANI Elia ITA CAN 5:13:12 0:00
5 FERRARI Roberto ITA LAM 5:13:12 0:00
6 BELLETTI Manuel ITA AND 5:13:12 0:00
7 SWIFT Ben GBR SKY 5:13:12 0:00
8 MATTHEWS Michael AUS OGE 5:13:12 0:00
9 APPOLLONIO Davide ITA ALM 5:13:12 0:00
10 FARRAR Tyler USA GRS 5:13:12 0:00
11BOL JetseNEDBEL5:13:120:00
12CHICCHI FrancescoITANRI5:13:120:00
13VAN DER SANDE ToshBELLTB5:13:120:00
14DUQUE Leonardo FabioCOLCOL5:13:120:00
15RUFFONI NicolaITABAR5:13:120:00
16HUREL TonyFRAEUC5:13:120:00
17AVILA VANEGAS Edwin AlcibiadCOLCOL5:13:120:00
18COLBRELLI SonnyITABAR5:13:120:00
19BOASSON HAGEN EdvaldNORSKY5:13:120:00
20KELDERMAN Wilco


Where did you find these?

giro website la gazetta

posted by rcorbin [208 posts]
10th May 2014 - 16:36

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Just saw them too. They are a lot faster than usual! Laughing

posted by arsene [217 posts]
10th May 2014 - 16:39

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1,3,5,6,7,8,19 in my standard with Swift, Matthews, Colbrelli and Chicchi in my purist.

Now then who do i remove for Bouhani ???????????

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it. Gaius Julius Caesar.

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posted by stumps [2677 posts]
10th May 2014 - 16:40

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1,2,3,4,8,11,12,15 plus Matthews in maglia rosa and white

Only Fran Windy let me down from a full house

posted by Twybaydos [273 posts]
10th May 2014 - 16:57

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1,2,3,4,7,8 & 12.

Had planned to leave it as is tomorrow but tempted to swap out Petacchi for Ferrari.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
10th May 2014 - 17:00

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I had planned to leave it for tomorrow but have made 3 changes. Hmmm.

posted by Joelsim [967 posts]
10th May 2014 - 18:13

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Made a single change - Petacchi out Wave

Got 167 on that stage (and three badges, including Full House) despite 30 penalty points. Party

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posted by Ghedebrav [1037 posts]
10th May 2014 - 18:50

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How did Kittel get 50 points?... 35 for the win, 5 for PC...

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posted by enrique [1527 posts]
10th May 2014 - 19:26

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10 for most combative I think

posted by Joelsim [967 posts]
10th May 2014 - 19:33

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10 for Combativity....

Cue the same complaints as this time last year.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
10th May 2014 - 19:34

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drheaton wrote:
10 for Combativity....

Thank you. You're my hero. Big Grin

drheaton wrote:
Cue the same complaints as this time last year.

Must... resist... I can't! How dare I disappoint? Quite a memory you have... Thinking

From:

http://road.cc/content/forum/82480-most-combative-rider-award

enrique wrote:
I don't like the Most Combative Rider Award. Everything else in the race is based on a measurement, an order, who gets there first, etc.... This one? Well, it's judged. It's awarded. Not measured. It might as well be a beauty pageant award. I think it can be a pretty subjective thing... I propose we get rid of that award next season... [May 5, 2013]
Amazing... Thinking I don't seem to have changed at all (!) in a year Thinking

Big Grin
Other than that, for whatever it's worth (next to nothing, I suppose), substitute Stage 2 of the 2014 Giro for Stage 1 of the 2013 Giro, substitute Wurf and Cavendish in 2013 for Tjallingi and Kittel today , and we have a situation with a 'corrupt' race jury that rewards the 'beauty' points of a magnificent sprint over the pure aggressiveness of a breakaway rider. How 'dare' they award the Combativity Award to Kittel after Tjallingi's heroic efforts? What an insult! Big Grin

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posted by enrique [1527 posts]
10th May 2014 - 20:44

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enrique wrote:
Amazing... Thinking I don't seem to have changed at all (!) in a year Thinking

No shit.

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10th May 2014 - 20:47

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enrique wrote:
Amazing... Thinking I don't seem to have changed at all (!) in a year Thinking

drheaton wrote:
No shit.

I feel like we've been together forever... Party

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posted by enrique [1527 posts]
10th May 2014 - 21:50

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drheaton wrote:
1,2,3,4,7,8 & 12.

Had planned to leave it as is tomorrow but tempted to swap out Petacchi for Ferrari.

I have done this...

Just hoping Wyss does something tomorrow

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3786 posts]
10th May 2014 - 21:53

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I'm hoping he isn't. Party

posted by Joelsim [967 posts]
10th May 2014 - 21:58

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Made 2 changes. Bouhanni and Chicchi. Tempted by Tjallingi but not enough mountain points yet and he's a bit more expensive, which might be a problem later.

Not much in it yet. Lots of people still in contention. 5 and 6 will be the first time teams diverge a bit. High number of points means you don't have to make too many difficult decisions yet.

posted by Alan Tullett [1434 posts]
10th May 2014 - 22:14

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enrique wrote:
the 'beauty' points of a magnificent sprint over the pure aggressiveness of a breakaway rider. How 'dare' they award the Combativity Award to Kittel after Tjallingi's heroic efforts? What an insult! Big Grin

FWIW, it has a defined set of criteria, not just a beauty contest. Take a look at http://www.gazzetta.it/Giroditalia/2014/download/Regolamento_Ing.pdf and look for section I (“FIGHTING SPIRIT”«PITTAROSSO»PRIZE ) in Article 28 (Prizes).

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10th May 2014 - 22:18

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simon F wrote:
... it has a defined set of criteria... Take a look at...

Nothing like the facts to shut me up... Plain Face Well, there it is... Taking a cursory glance at the criteria I'd have to imagine that unless the break wins the day or there are a ton of KOMs along the way, no one but a sprinter will get the Combativity Award on a sprint stage in the Giro...

How dull... Do we have to be as dull and unimaginative as the Giro here? How about a 'Last Man Caught from the Breakaway' Award of 5 points? Big Grin

Thinking I think I'll write the Giro to see if they'll drop the points for the Finish Line and award more to the Intermediate Sprints and KOMs to make the Combativity Award 'fairer'... I mean the sprinters are hawking all the podium time and podium girl kisses! Thinking Why would anyone want to go on a breakaway if Kittel is getting all the kisses at the end of the day? Stupid RCS people... Waiting

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posted by enrique [1527 posts]
11th May 2014 - 0:10

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Hey TERa,

I noticed Wyss/Cadel and Bozic/Scarp , finished together from each team.
My guess is it is Wyss and Bozic job to drag Cadel and Scarp along in sprint to stay in touch and not lose any time as they aren't up to Kitts speed. I sold Bozo today.

Waaaa Waaaaa !

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posted by VVV73 [389 posts]
11th May 2014 - 8:03

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VVV73 wrote:
Hey TERa,

I noticed Wyss/Cadel and Bozic/Scarp , finished together from each team.
My guess is it is Wyss and Bozic job to drag Cadel and Scarp along in sprint to stay in touch and not lose any time as they aren't up to Kitts speed. I sold Bozo today.

Who did you chuck in instead of boz?

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11th May 2014 - 8:33

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VVV73 wrote:
Hey TERa,

I noticed Wyss/Cadel and Bozic/Scarp , finished together from each team.
My guess is it is Wyss and Bozic job to drag Cadel and Scarp along in sprint to stay in touch and not lose any time as they aren't up to Kitts speed. I sold Bozo today.

Yeh have to agree that looks to be the case, however the slight split may have meant no chance for Wyss, and keeping Cadel close to the front could still end up in a top 20 finish, but we shall see.

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11th May 2014 - 10:42

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sold pett as well bought in Ferrari and Ruffoni .

Waaaa Waaaaa !

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posted by VVV73 [389 posts]
11th May 2014 - 15:14

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Wtf happened to Kittel's 10 pts???? Waiting

posted by arsene [217 posts]
11th May 2014 - 19:22

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