Paris Nice

by enrique   February 27, 2014  

Well, it's over a week away but it's a pretty intriguing scenario. The profiles are up at http://www.letour.fr/paris-nice/2014/us/overall-route.html but their race preview comments seem to be true (http://www.letour.fr/paris-nice/2014/us/pre-race/news/ahc/the-race-to-th...). "With a course completely devoid of time trialling and decisive climbs, the 72nd edition of Paris–Nice is one for the all-rounders....the absence of a time-trial... steep, rough climbs rather than highly selective ascents will reward audacity over the natural talent of the mountaineers. " Then it goes on to say the "title might still depend on the time bonuses to be picked up on the finish line!"

The only mountaintop finish is a Cat 2, at the end of Stage 6, it seems tailor made for Luis Leon Sanchez! Smile But he's not there! D Oh

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
I did the rider values last week...

Can we take a look at them? Big Grin In a zip file maybe?... I hate waiting till Wednesday... Big Grin

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posted by enrique [1683 posts]
4th March 2014 - 3:21

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enrique wrote:
TERatcliffe26 wrote:
I did the rider values last week...

Can we take a look at them? Big Grin In a zip file maybe?... I hate waiting till Wednesday... Big Grin

Well I now have official startlists so will update them tonight and give Dave a nudge to open the race in the morning

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3856 posts]
4th March 2014 - 17:09

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
I now have official startlists so will update them tonight and give Dave a nudge to open the race in the morning

You're the man! Thanks! Smile

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posted by enrique [1683 posts]
4th March 2014 - 17:23

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Can we open Paris Nice like Strade Bianche was open? With the rosters of all the teams that are riding? The start list at PCS is pretty much complete, with all teams having a full roster on the site and 12 confirmed teams. My impression is that what's more important right now is probably the values of the riders we want on our teams. I think many of us feel pretty good about who we want to choose, it's just a matter of knowing what budget we're playing within and whether we can fit in the riders we want or not. Thanks!

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posted by enrique [1683 posts]
5th March 2014 - 21:13

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Ive done preliminary startlists, told you I was doing this last night, and Id let Dave know it was ready, which I did, so it will be open soon, probably in the morning. It has nothing to do with the startlists/teams, its about not having too much stuff open at once or too early. As it starts sunday, most will pick teams friday night or saturday anyway

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3856 posts]
5th March 2014 - 23:45

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Roster looks good, will be in Mougins and Nice for the final 2 stages. Shame they dropped the TT as it was spectacular day in 2012

posted by simoncon [52 posts]
6th March 2014 - 23:47

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Yay! We're up! Smile But the budget is at 140? Sad

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posted by enrique [1683 posts]
7th March 2014 - 3:27

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I'm afraid you have the wrong Yates brother - Simon is doing P-Nice

http://www.greenedgecycling.com/news/paris-nice-preview--chasing-stage-wins

Shame they don't cost the same

posted by Twybaydos [317 posts]
7th March 2014 - 8:56

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There's a lot of good Young 'uns Love Struck

posted by ray silvester [1807 posts]
7th March 2014 - 11:28

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Twybaydos wrote:
I'm afraid you have the wrong Yates brother - Simon is doing P-Nice

http://www.greenedgecycling.com/news/paris-nice-preview--chasing-stage-wins

Shame they don't cost the same


Thanks Twybados, they nearly fooled me there...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1579 posts]
7th March 2014 - 14:45

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When I first saw the course and the fact that there was no TT, nor was the Col D'Eze present I thought "Pah, another step towards this race's irrelevance courtesy of the boneheads at ASO"

But...

On reflection I really like the fact that rather than being an early training race for TdF, as it was becoming, Paris-Nice is having a bit of character returned to it. It's a race for the buccaneering all-rounder who can hang with the mountain goats and punch up the steep segments, as well as providing plenty of good sprinty action early doors and mucho breakaway potential. If the teams/riders show up for this one, it could be a pivotal edition of this venerable but fading race. Here's hoping, anyway.

EDIT: I see the Col D'eze is present. Silly me. Comment still stands though Smile

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posted by Ghedebrav [1073 posts]
7th March 2014 - 22:14

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big question for me is Meersman or Boonen? Thinking

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posted by livestrongnick [1757 posts]
7th March 2014 - 22:34

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Rosters have now been updated, think I caught everything. If any changes happen tomorrow I will do them tomorrow night when I get back from Norwich, so they will get done, just may be late on

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3856 posts]
7th March 2014 - 22:45

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One thing factored in TER's updates but not detailed - Porte is out. Froome has back-knack so Porte moves to Italy. Everyone is happy with this

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/03/news/aso-angry-portes-shift-tirre...

posted by Twybaydos [317 posts]
8th March 2014 - 0:00

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It's too hard. I need more money. I know I say that every year but it's always too hard.

Maybe this isn't the place to ask, and without wishing to start a whole flaming argument, how come Meersman is "AR" and Terpstra is "PC"?

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posted by Sanderville [211 posts]
8th March 2014 - 0:33

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livestrongnick wrote:
big question for me is Meersman or Boonen? Thinking

Ha! Perhaps rather foolishly, I have neither. Degenkolb instead. Meersman seems overpriced (though that's what I thought about Kwiatkowski in the Algarve so what do I know?).

You have given me food for thought with Boonen, though. If nothing else, form's form Thinking

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posted by Ghedebrav [1073 posts]
8th March 2014 - 0:53

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Sanderville wrote:
... I need more money. I know I say that every year but it's always too hard....

I wish we had a bigger budget! Crying

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posted by enrique [1683 posts]
8th March 2014 - 1:21

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Budget is right. We can't all pick the same stars.

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8th March 2014 - 5:40

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buccaneering all-rounder who can hang with the mountain goats and punch up the steep segments, as well as providing plenty of good sprinty action early doors and mucho breakaway potential.

That's pretty much Chava's Wiki page entry!!

posted by ray silvester [1807 posts]
8th March 2014 - 8:26

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Sanderville wrote:
It's too hard. I need more money. I know I say that every year but it's always too hard.

Maybe this isn't the place to ask, and without wishing to start a whole flaming argument, how come Meersman is "AR" and Terpstra is "PC"?

AR and PC are based purely on past scores. The classics and the Tour of Qatar are generally flat which means Terpstra scores most of his points on flat stages meaning he gets a PC or 'Points Classification' listing suggesting he's a sprinter. Meersman on the other hand scores on flat and MM stages (lumpy days or up hill sprints) meaning he scores points across different terrain and gets the AR or 'All Rounder' listing.

Its not done subjectively, its all based on past stage scores and the types of terrain they succeed on.

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8th March 2014 - 9:23

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Thank you, doctor. So in the case of the Schlecks "DS" stands for something other than domestic.

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posted by Sanderville [211 posts]
8th March 2014 - 11:40

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Sanderville wrote:
Thank you, doctor. So in the case of the Schlecks "DS" stands for something other than domestic.

I'n the case of the schlecks it stands for "Don't Select!"

posted by chiv30 [857 posts]
8th March 2014 - 11:45

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DS is domestique and just covers anyone under a certain value which is usually about 15 credits.

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Ghedebrav wrote:
livestrongnick wrote:
big question for me is Meersman or Boonen? Thinking

Ha! Perhaps rather foolishly, I have neither. Degenkolb instead. Meersman seems overpriced (though that's what I thought about Kwiatkowski in the Algarve so what do I know?).

You have given me food for thought with Boonen, though. If nothing else, form's form Thinking

Boonen probably just using this as training for classics and Meersman will get the nod, gone with neither in the end. All out sprint train for 3 stages Big Grin

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posted by livestrongnick [1757 posts]
8th March 2014 - 13:44

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Late adjustment - Tanel Kangert is out of P-Nice, doing Roma-Maxima instead. Agnoli in Astana team instead

posted by Twybaydos [317 posts]
8th March 2014 - 19:40

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Right, just back from Norwich, gonna do in update in the next 20

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3856 posts]
8th March 2014 - 23:17

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Transfers between stages in P-N on Purist team???

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9th March 2014 - 7:01

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FirstCycling wrote:
Transfers between stages in P-N on Purist team???

nope

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7298 posts]
9th March 2014 - 8:30

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Sanderville wrote:

Maybe this isn't the place to ask, and without wishing to start a whole flaming argument, how come Meersman is "AR" and Terpstra is "PC"?

less than a quarter of Meersman's points have come on flat stages, so the game doesn't classify him as a sprinter

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7298 posts]
9th March 2014 - 8:33

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livestrongnick wrote:
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livestrongnick wrote:
big question for me is Meersman or Boonen? Thinking

Ha! Perhaps rather foolishly, I have neither. Degenkolb instead. Meersman seems overpriced (though that's what I thought about Kwiatkowski in the Algarve so what do I know?).

You have given me food for thought with Boonen, though. If nothing else, form's form Thinking

Boonen probably just using this as training for classics and Meersman will get the nod, gone with neither in the end. All out sprint train for 3 stages Big Grin

I'm going with Boonen as my standard team will probably stand for the first 3 stages

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9th March 2014 - 9:32

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