Proper Purist Classics Comp

by drheaton   February 25, 2014  

A few people have commented on how they miss having to pick a proper purist team for the classics now that we've moved over to fully unlimited transfers between each race (which simplifies things a huge amount and hopefully will cause much less confusion than in previous years).

In light of this I'm setting up a 'proper purist' forum comp for the spring classics between the opening Omloop/KBK weekend and Paris-Roubaix (I'll set up a separate one for the Ardennes later).

The Rules - pick nine riders for 150 credits or less based on opening values this weekend.  Usual rules apply so no more than two riders per team (no picking all of OPQS then).

The Points - Normal fantasy points will be scored by any and all active riders in each race included in the road.cc game, that's:

Omloop Het Nieuwsblad - Sat Mar 01 2014
Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne - Sun Mar 02 2014 
Strade Bianche - Sat Mar 08 2014 
Roma Maxima - Sun Mar 09 2014
Milan - San Remo - Sun Mar 23 2014
E3 Harelbeke - Fri Mar 28 2014
Gent - Wevelgem - Sun Mar 30 2014
Ronde Van Vlaanderen - Sun Apr 06 2014
Paris - Roubaix - Sun Apr 13 2014

This means that points will directly corralate with the main game.  If your rider doesn't start a race then you get no points.  There are no transfers, no swaps, no substitutions and no injury replacements.  Your nine riders are your nine riders and that's it.

The Prize - Eternal Glory (ie nothing).

Entries required on/before 9am Saturday 1st March 2014.  Please try and keep your entries into one post with any amendments in that post (so no quoting other peoples team please).

EDIT:  I've just remembered that I'm out of the country the day that Paris-Roubaix runs so I'll also need a volunteer to put together the final scores, I'll sort everything out up to that point so someone will just need to come in and take all the glory.

Likewise, if someone wants to volunteer to carry the comp over into the Ardennes classics but with new teams picked (but points carried over) then that'd be great too.

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Monica, can you take a look at your team, you have 10 riders.

Up to 17 teams now, the more entries the better Smile

Perhaps not a big surprise but the first four names on most peoples teams are Peter Sagan, Fabian Cancellara, Greg Van Avermaet and Tom Boonen.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
27th February 2014 - 13:53

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Boonen – 18.4
Van Summeren – 9.7
Nuyens – 3.0
Paolini – 27.1
Cancellara – 25.2
Stannard – 15.5
Gasparotto – 17.2
Heneo – 24.4
Wynants – 8.2

Total = 148.7
Just 2 "big names"

... ... need more speed!

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posted by JC [128 posts]
27th February 2014 - 14:13

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Going Belgian stylee (mainlee)...

Alexander Kristoff (KAT)
28.1

Luca Paolini (KAT)
27.1

Tom Boonen (OPQ)
18.4

Jurgen Roelandts (LTB)
20.5

Guillaume Van Keirsbulck (OPQ)
9.9

Manuel Quinziato (BMC)
6.5

Sep Vanmarcke (BLK)
11.8

Greg Van Avermaet (BMC)
22.8

Mickael Delage (FDJ)
4.9

TOTAL: 150

posted by the domestique [30 posts]
28th February 2014 - 3:05

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Lets go:
Peter Sagan 40.0
Cancellara 25.2
Stybar 18.8
Boonen 18.4
Stannard 15.5
Alexei Tsatevich 12.8
Sep Vanmarcke 11.8
Nuyens 3.0
Bandiera 3.0
(148.5)

Ta.

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posted by archieboy [33 posts]
28th February 2014 - 10:18

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Very difficult. I am sure I do not have enough Italians.........

Kristoff 28.1
cancellara 25.2
debusscherie 15.3
boonen 18.4
stybar 18.8
Van baarle 3.0
Vanmarke 11.8
van Avermaet 22.8
zoidl 3.0

146.4

posted by stevemarks [424 posts]
28th February 2014 - 10:54

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stevemarks wrote:
Very difficult. I am sure I do not have enough Italians.........

Kristoff 28.1
cancellara 25.2
debusscherie 15.3
boonen 18.4
stybar 18.8
Van baarle 3.0
Vanmarke 11.8
van Avermaet 22.8
zoidl 3.0

146.4

Changed it three times already. got to stop now!

posted by stevemarks [424 posts]
28th February 2014 - 10:59

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chrisdstripes wrote:
Looks pretty good to me - Leukemans was especially tempting although his team are only riding 6 of the 9 races. Having said that - you have ten riders instead of nine so the maths doesn't add up... Wink

Ok, I'll fix it. How do you know that Leukeman's team is only riding 6 races? Where can find that out? I also have Pozzato and the same might be true of him... I have to change Gilbert, too, since I just read he's only going to do the Ardennes... Decisions, Decisions... Please tell me where to find out that team info, please, and I'll make a change. Thanks!

posted by monica [24 posts]
28th February 2014 - 14:01

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Spartacus 25.2
Boonen 18.4
GvA 22.8
Van Marke 11.8
Wynants 8.2
Thomas 15.9
Chavanel 24.4
Bandiera 3.0
Stybar 18.8

Should be 148.5

Someone double check me as it was quick mental arithmetic cheers

posted by chiv30 [876 posts]
28th February 2014 - 14:09

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Count me in,

Chavanel 22.4
Stybar 18.8
Stannard 15.5
Boonen 18.4
Nordhaug 13.0
Ullissi 24.7
Phinney 17.7
Thomas 15.9
Zoidl 3.0

Total 149.4

There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.

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posted by stumps [2809 posts]
28th February 2014 - 14:42

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I just did a web search and found the startlists for each of the races, and then totted up which teams were riding which races. (Yes I was a bit bored at work...) It doesn't mean that much, as just because Sky (for example) are riding all 9, it doesn't mean that any individual rider will be in them all.

Lampre are down to ride 7/9 if that helps.

In fact the World Tour teams are all riding at least 7 except Saxo (6) and Orica (5).

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
28th February 2014 - 19:26

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chrisdstripes wrote:
Lampre are down to ride 7/9 if that helps.

Pretty solid of you. Thanks! Thought there might be a place that listed all that info that didn't require you to go to all those pages, I guess not! But, thanks!

I guess I'll keep Pozzato!

Here's my team:

Tom Boonen 18.4
Fabian Cancellara 25.2
Thor Hushovd 23.7
Filippo Pozzato 17.2
Matti Breschel 15.3
Bernhard Eisel 14.8
Bjorn Leukemans 15.7
Johan Van Summeren 9.7
Nick Nuyens 3.0

Total 143.0

I swapped Gilbert out. Thanks for waiting! Smile

posted by monica [24 posts]
28th February 2014 - 20:15

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Stybar 18.8
Chavanel 22.4
Cancellara 25.2
Boonen 18.4
Zoidl 3.0
Moser 17.0
Ullissi 24.7
A. Schleck 11.6
Clement 8.5

149.6

posted by northstar [1107 posts]
28th February 2014 - 21:50

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For me

Cancellara 25.2
Boonen 18.4
Sagan 40.0

Nuyens 3.0
van Summeren 9.7
Stybar 18.8

Hushovd 23.7
Adam Yates 5.1
Rasch 3.0

total 146.9

posted by robdaykin [160 posts]
28th February 2014 - 23:07

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Entries close at 9am tomorrow, same time as the window for Omloop so get your teams in quick.

Unfortunately I left the spreadsheet I set up on my PC at work so the first score update will be after both Omloop and KBK on Monday.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
28th February 2014 - 23:15

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Here are mine.

Sagan 40
Boonen 18.4
Avermaet 22.8
Coquard 16.2
Stybar 18.8
Thomas 15.9
Delage 4.9
Zoidl 3
Willems 7.8

Total 147.8

posted by Julie Danson [5 posts]
28th February 2014 - 23:24

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monica wrote:
chrisdstripes wrote:
Lampre are down to ride 7/9 if that helps.

Pretty solid of you. Thanks! Thought there might be a place that listed all that info that didn't require you to go to all those pages, I guess not! But, thanks!

I guess I'll keep Pozzato!

Here's my team:

Tom Boonen 18.4
Fabian Cancellara 25.2
Thor Hushovd 23.7
Filippo Pozzato 17.2
Matti Breschel 15.3
Bernhard Eisel 14.8
Bjorn Leukemans 15.7
Johan Van Summeren 9.7
Nick Nuyens 3.0

Total 143.0

I swapped Gilbert out. Thanks for waiting! Smile


Smiley smiley. Another Enrique? Wink

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posted by chrisdstripes [1648 posts]
1st March 2014 - 1:53

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At last, my team:
Chavanel Sylvain 24.4
Cancellara 25.2
Boonen. 18.4
Bandiera. 3.0
Van Avermaet. 22.8
Boom. 19.6
Coquard. 16.2
Quinziato. 6.5
Le Bon 10.7

Total. 146.8

posted by Suthisan [11 posts]
1st March 2014 - 7:42

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Sagan 40
Cancellara 25.2
GVA 22.8
Boonen 18.4
Hoogerland 12.6
Offredo 12.3
Vanmarcke 11.8
Nuyens 3.0
Zoidl 3.0

149.1

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posted by Ghedebrav [1102 posts]
1st March 2014 - 8:14

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Last one in?

Sagan 40.0
Cancellara 25.2
Chavanel 24.4
Van Avermaet 22.8
Boonen 18.4
Gatto 9.4
Van Asbroeck 3.0
Nuyens 3.0
Bandiera 3.0

149.2

posted by lucas [78 posts]
1st March 2014 - 8:15

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Made a couple of last-minute amends Big Grin

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posted by Ghedebrav [1102 posts]
1st March 2014 - 11:46

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drheaton wrote:
no more than two riders per team (no picking all of OPQS then).

Twybaydos wrote:
Well that's my first choice team denied

Today would have been your day! Big Grin

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
2nd March 2014 - 17:11

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1,3,8 today
2,4 yesterday

posted by chiv30 [876 posts]
2nd March 2014 - 18:58

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Looks like a rather uninspiring 80pts over the 2 races for me Yawn

posted by ray silvester [1855 posts]
3rd March 2014 - 10:04

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Now that we're under way I'll share my spreadsheet.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8lrga3lw43flcxt/Purist%20Classics.xlsx

You're free to have a play with it if you like, basically cobbles and Ardennes teams are stored for each person then you dump the scores into the tab for each race. The main page then collates the score for each stage and totals. The rankings page is just there to allow easy sorting by score.

I'm pretty sure I have cover lined up for Paris Roubaix and the Ardennes classic but you're free to use and abuse the spreadsheet as you like. With a little tweaking it should be easy enough to alter this for non-game competitions so you can do your own scores adding in extra columns for stage result, GC standings etc.

Feel free to post questions if you have any.

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
3rd March 2014 - 19:48

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drheaton wrote:
... I'll share my spreadsheet...

Very nice of you Smile

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
3rd March 2014 - 20:14

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drheaton wrote:
Now that we're under way I'll share my spreadsheet.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8lrga3lw43flcxt/Purist%20Classics.xlsx

You're free to have a play with it if you like, basically cobbles and Ardennes teams are stored for each person then you dump the scores into the tab for each race. The main page then collates the score for each stage and totals. The rankings page is just there to allow easy sorting by score.

I'm pretty sure I have cover lined up for Paris Roubaix and the Ardennes classic but you're free to use and abuse the spreadsheet as you like. With a little tweaking it should be easy enough to alter this for non-game competitions so you can do your own scores adding in extra columns for stage result, GC standings etc.

Feel free to post questions if you have any.

Only had a look on my mobile but how is the scoring managed for each rider and then team? Are you doing it manually as I can't see any formulas and as it's an xlsx file I know it doesn't contain any vba macro .

Just curious because if it's manual I'm pretty sure I can knock something up for you based on the original if you want that just means you need to add the raw data from the site if that is excel based ?

posted by chiv30 [876 posts]
3rd March 2014 - 21:46

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Nah, nothings updated manually, its all long winded formulae.

The teams are stored in the "cobbles" and "Ardennes" tabs then referenced in some hidden columns in the scores tab. Its quick and dirty and I'm sure there are better ways of doing it but its all automated so the only thing I do is copy and paste the scores out of the game (on the stage page like this http://fantasy.road.cc/stages?sid=7501) and into the relevant race tabs.

Because the points aren't shown with the rider id everything is referenced off rider name so the scores page offset matches against rider name when searching the stage results.

If you think you can improve it though feel free, like I said its just something quick I knocked together at work (while on lunch obviously... Wink )

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
3rd March 2014 - 22:17

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If it works and it's not manually intensive then it's fine , only thing to watch out for is formulas going awry ( doesn't happen often but we have seen some very random happenings in work with xlsx files )
Surprise

posted by chiv30 [876 posts]
3rd March 2014 - 22:50

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This is just a record of the teams submitted:

Teams.JPG

posted by drheaton [3429 posts]
4th March 2014 - 10:25

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This is a beautiful competition. Nice, dr! Applause

Hope that makes up for the last week! Smile

On another note, out of curiosity I tried to see what would be the best team to have had until this point in the competition, after three races, and I think this is the best team you could have had so far:

31.5 Michal Kwiatkowski
22.8 Greg Van Avermaet
18.4 Tom Boonen
15.5 Ian Stannard
15.3 Moreno Hofland
12.1 Stijn Vandenbergh
11.8 Sep Vanmarcke
7.5 Salvatore Puccio
3.0 Yves Lampaert

but that team only considers Finish Line Points. I'm sure it can probably be improved by looking for some 3.0 riders who went on breaks or some other 3.0 riders who were Lanterne Rouges, but I'm too lazy to keep track of those. Though I bet a list like that would probably come in handy for future races! Smile

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posted by enrique [1795 posts]
9th March 2014 - 13:34

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