Spring Classics Question

by fhoupg   February 19, 2014  

Will races like Strade Bianche and Roma Maxima be part of the Spring Classics?

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livestrongnick has a fair point. The classics run throughout one of the busiest periods in the fantasy calendar so more may be good when looking at the classics in isolation but when you add in five separate week long tours and the start of the women's race (which are new additions to the calendar this year) it gets very very busy.

posted by drheaton [3350 posts]
22nd February 2014 - 9:09

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I think its a shame that purist doesn't count for anything in the classics, ie you get unlimited transfers between similar races like G3 and Gent-Wev etc. In an ideal world, we'd decide the schedule, and then decide a fair number of purist transfers allowed between the races. I like the idea that playing purist is different to standard, ie you are checking startlists and picking some riders that are in both, say Omloop and KBK, rather than just picking the same team as your standard in the knowledge you can change it all.

But if thats too compliacated then we'll just have to go with it as is. Shame tho'.

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posted by chrisdstripes [1355 posts]
22nd February 2014 - 9:43

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chrisdstripes wrote:
I think its a shame that purist doesn't count for anything in the classics, ie you get unlimited transfers between similar races like G3 and Gent-Wev etc. In an ideal world, we'd decide the schedule, and then decide a fair number of purist transfers allowed between the races. I like the idea that playing purist is different to standard, ie you are checking startlists and picking some riders that are in both, say Omloop and KBK, rather than just picking the same team as your standard in the knowledge you can change it all.

But if thats too compliacated then we'll just have to go with it as is. Shame tho'.

Its not complicated to employ, but last year there were too many occasions where players came on not realizing there were set transfer amounts between races or non between purists, one due to the time between certain races, and also changes in startlists, and finally players not quite understanding the way the classics worked, so Dave decided by just saying transfers unlimited transfers there is no confusion for any players

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3504 posts]
22nd February 2014 - 11:45

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drheaton wrote:
The classics run throughout one of the busiest periods in the fantasy calendar so more may be good when looking at the classics in isolation but when you add in five separate week long tours and the start of the women's race (which are new additions to the calendar this year) it gets very very busy.

I don't know. It seems you Premium guys are playing two stage races right now (Oman and Algarve) and some are even playing the Vuelta a Andalucia on the forum... I think you can handle a one day race on weekends too

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posted by orli [76 posts]
22nd February 2014 - 14:08

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The list of Spring Classic races should have been decided before the 2014 season started and not be under discussion at this late stage. The overworked and under appreciated programmers don't need extra complications. Nods to Dave and the team.

If you decide to include everything then open the World Tour races to everyone and the rest can be Premium only Cool This way, it might be possible to have Purist teams like last year. Nuff said !

posted by Suthisan [5 posts]
23rd February 2014 - 2:13

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Of Gkam's list, the only one I'd want taking off would be Scheldepris. Milan-San Remo, Harelbeke, Ghent-Wevelgem, Flanders, Paris-Roubaix, Amstel Gold, Fleche Wallone and L-B-L are all World Tour races, so must go in.

As to the first couple of weekends:

Omloop & KBK - I'm not aware of this clashing with anything else, so why not run it?

SB & RM - OK, so this runs into the start of Paris-Nice, but they were both great races last year. I'd like to see them included (I'd have G.P. Camaiore in as well, but perhaps that's pushing my luck. I like lots of races; if it were up to me our season would start with the Tropicale Amissa Bongo).

Which just leaves the Scheldepris. Sorry Scheldepris Crying

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posted by Ghedebrav [802 posts]
23rd February 2014 - 15:58

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We definitely need a couple next weekend.

Otherwise what are we going to do with ourselves this week?

Some good contenders in Omloop too, OPQS have a very strong team.

posted by Joelsim [228 posts]
23rd February 2014 - 16:45

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Especially with it being the real start to the season and all that.

posted by Joelsim [228 posts]
23rd February 2014 - 16:46

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Again, there is no logical reason to leave any of them from the list...

posted by northstar [936 posts]
23rd February 2014 - 18:43

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Are we doing both Omloop and KBK this weekend? Personally I'd like to do both and I think they both have strong fields.

posted by Twybaydos [188 posts]
25th February 2014 - 11:28

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Dave appears to be working on the classics now and you'll notice that they're starting to pop up in the 'what's coming up' section of the home page.

The first four are:

Quote:
Spring Classics - Omloop Het Nieuwsblad - Sat, 01 Mar
Spring Classics - Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne - Sun, 02 Mar
Spring Classics - Strade Bianche - Sat, 08 Mar
Spring Classics - Roma Maxima - Sun, 09 Mar

Best get planning your teams!

posted by drheaton [3350 posts]
25th February 2014 - 12:44

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The final 12:

1st March Omloop
2nd March Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne
8th March Strade Bianchi
9th March Roma Maxima
23rd March Milan Sanremo
28th March E3 Harelbeke
30th March Gent-Wevelgem
6th April Flanders
13th April Paris-Roubaix
20th April Amstel Gold
23rd April Fleche Wallonie
27th April Liege-Bastogne-Liege

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7034 posts]
25th February 2014 - 12:55

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the competition should be open later today...

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7034 posts]
25th February 2014 - 12:55

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Fantastic news, something for every weekend when you factor in Paris-Nice and Tirreno-Adriatico

posted by Joelsim [228 posts]
25th February 2014 - 13:34

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Ace - exactly the races I was hoping for. Nice on Dave. Big Grin

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posted by chrisdstripes [1355 posts]
25th February 2014 - 14:02

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Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne? Disco Inferno!

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posted by Gizmo_ [642 posts]
25th February 2014 - 14:13

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So if there are unlimited transfers on the purist game between races, we essentially get to submit two teams: is that right?

posted by Armchair Cyclist [6 posts]
25th February 2014 - 18:31

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Another question: As a purist, I've always liked playing the cobble races and the Ardennes races in groups,

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(28th March E3 Harelbeke)
30th March Gent-Wevelgem
6th April Flanders
13th April Paris-Roubaix

2
20th April Amstel Gold
23rd April Fleche Wallonie
27th April Liege-Bastogne-Liege

meaning, there would be transfers inbetween every single race, but only between the 2 groups an unlimited window.

Will we do this also in 2014?

posted by arsene [184 posts]
3rd March 2014 - 21:28

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arsene wrote:

Will we do this also in 2014?

Am I missing something....I'm sure it's 2014 now Confused

posted by chiv30 [595 posts]
3rd March 2014 - 21:36

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Is it possible to view your team (Spring Classics), once the race as started. Checked everywhere I think, but cannot see my team, had a similar problem with first races.

posted by Cirage [8 posts]
9th March 2014 - 13:43

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Cirage wrote:
Is it possible to view your team (Spring Classics), once the race as started. Checked everywhere I think, but cannot see my team, had a similar problem with first races.

you should be able to, in the normal way you would look, as you should now be able to make changes for milan san-remo

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3504 posts]
9th March 2014 - 14:28

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Cirage wrote:
Is it possible to view your team (Spring Classics), once the race as started. Checked everywhere I think, but cannot see my team, had a similar problem with first races.

You can't see the riders on your team when you visit the 'SCL' tab and click on 'My Team'?

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posted by enrique [1105 posts]
9th March 2014 - 14:28

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Hi All

Me and a mate are a tad confused about the scoring for the spring classics for our mini league. I've tried to find the answer in the forum but not seen one (woods for the trees etc).

I didn't get a team submitted for the Roma Maxima but my mate did. He scored 104 and I of course scored nothing. However, his Roma Maxima points are not counted in our overall league score for all competitions. This is helping me as I am still ahead overall re cumulative points for all competitions so far, but technically my mate is about 75 ahead with his Roma Maxima scores.

Am I missing something here or just being totally dumb? This is the first year we've done the Road.cc fantasy league and are continually learning.

Thanks for any help.

Your,

Scratching my head.

posted by OldSchoolSpinner [2 posts]
10th March 2014 - 13:45

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Hi, Roma Maxima scores aren't currently showing in the leagues.

It's something that happens occassionally when stages are updated out of sync (where two or more happen on a given day) and it's been raised a couple of times before like here:

http://road.cc/content/forum/113270-home-page-scores-and-overall-table-s...

If you check your scores again tonight after the latest Paris-Nice update is run hopefully should be working perfectly.

posted by drheaton [3350 posts]
10th March 2014 - 13:57

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@drheaton - many thanks for your reply and link, appreciate it.

posted by OldSchoolSpinner [2 posts]
10th March 2014 - 14:08

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Oh, wow, I didn't notice Dwars door Vlaanderen was left out Sad Any chance we can add it last minute? Thinking

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posted by enrique [1105 posts]
24th March 2014 - 23:17

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Nope, no chopping and changing this year, it just pisses everyone off. Make sure you remember it and suggest it for addition next year.

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25th March 2014 - 8:13

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enrique wrote:
Oh, wow, I didn't notice Dwars door Vlaanderen was left out Sad Any chance we can add it last minute? Thinking

Just a question, and Im normally all for plenty of races, but are you not enjoying the little bit of a break after the hectic last week or two, with just a stage race and it being the end of the week before the classic races kick back in?

Maybe is just me with being at work etc, but enjoying a bit more of a relaxed schedule this week

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25th March 2014 - 10:28

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
... are you not enjoying... ?...

I'm enjoying the crap out of a 150 budget, TER, that's for sure! I love it! And a full roster! And a whole week to mess around with the teams. And a warm-up race in Dwars Door Vlanderen! That's awesome! And only 2 riders above 30.0 credits! That's cool! I love it! Primo conditions! Yes, I love this game. I'd marry it if I could! But then would dr be my brother-in-law? Thinking And would Dave be my father-in-law? Thinking And Gkam my little brother-in-law? And you? Thinking Hmmm...

As for enjoying the break, well, in the good words of dr... No! I want....

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More more more more more, that's all you ever seem to want enrique

As in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlJGrIyt-X8

I can't help it! D Oh I'm a 70's child! Emphasis on child, of course! Big Grin

Sing along 'How do you like it? How do you like it?'

Heh heh! Big Grin I feel happy today. Smile

drheaton wrote:
... remember it and suggest it... next year.

Sure will! Thank you! Smile

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posted by enrique [1105 posts]
25th March 2014 - 16:05

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I'm sorry, I really have NO room in my family for you Laughing

We cant please all the people all of the time....we've slotted in some womens races, because I really wanted them, it is proving a challenge for me and I cant see them being around next season if this test run is anything to go by.

Plus, with this year being sponsored by Wiggle, which we are all happy about, we couldn't rip the arse out of it and put in every single race that the UCI runs.

I'm going out on a limb, because I do not know this answer, but I think they would have said to Dave, we are willing to pay/sponsor/donate X amount of items to a total value of Y. So Dave then has to balance X and Y between stages and race prizes....

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posted by Gkam84 [8142 posts]
25th March 2014 - 16:26

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