Vuelta a Andalucia

by enrique   February 15, 2014  

I love a good Spanish race with lots of Spanish names like Valverde and Wiggins Big Grin Who doesn't?....

So why not another Forum Competition?

It's enough to drive you crazy, but here goes! Smile

The Vuelta a Andalucia runs from Wednesday February 19 to Sunday February 23 2014

And who doesn't like a hilly, mountainous route? I do. So, yep, in the middle of the chaos of Premium players playing the Volta Algarve on top of the Tour of Oman, I offer the forum diehards the opportunity to burn their brains following yet another stage race - the Vuelta a Andalucia! Crazy, right?

Here's what it looks like *rubbing my hands with anticipation*

7.3 Km Prologue
Stage 1 Cat 1 Cat 3 Cat 3 Cat 2 Cat 2 Cat 3 Hilltop Finish
Stage 2 Cat 3 Cat 3 Cat 1 Summit Finish
Stage 3 Cat 3 Cat 3 Flat Finish
Stage 4 Cat 1 Cat 3 Cat 3 Flat Finish

Check out the profiles here:

http://www.vueltaandalucia.es/

Just click on the Stage you want to see to see the profiles.

Obviously, it's got a start list with some pretty good names that are not going to Oman or the Volta Algarve - Valverde, Wiggins, Porte, Fuglsang, Scarponi, Mollema, Kittel, and Boassen Hagen. Pretty good names! Smile

So, who's in? Anybody? I won't blame you if you bow out! I know it's a lot of racing, but if you want to join the fun, you're welcome to give it a cursory shot! Smile At stake is nothing more than the pride and honor of winning a Forum Based Competition on a very prestigious cycling website (this one, namely Road.cc, of course!) Smile Happy Hunting! Smile

Rider values
Alejandro Valverde Movistar Team 31.5
Richie Porte Team Sky 25.7
Bradley Wiggins Team Sky 24.3
Bauke Mollema Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 22.9
Michele Scarponi Astana Pro Team 22.7
Marcel Kittel Team Giant-Shimano 22.7
Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Sky 22.6
Julian David Arredondo Trek Factory Racing 19.0
Gerald Ciolek MTN - Qhubeka 18.6
Geraint Thomas Team Sky 17.8
Daniel Navarro Cofidis, Solutions Créd 17.2
Jose Herrada Movistar Team 16.8
Tanel Kangert Astana Pro Team 16.6
Luka Mezgec Team Giant-Shimano 16.6
Julien Simon Cofidis, Solutions Créd 16.4
Amets Txurruka Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 15.8
Tom Dumoulin Team Giant-Shimano 15.7
Laurens Ten DaM Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 15.5
Jakob Fuglsang Astana Pro Team 15.4
Jon Izagirre Movistar Team 15.3
Kevin Seeldraeyers Wanty - Groupe Gobert 15.3
Bart De Clercq Lotto Belisol 15.1
Simon Geschke Team Giant-Shimano 14.5
Javier Moreno Movistar Team 14.2
Eros Capecchi Movistar Team 13.6
Greg Henderson Lotto Belisol 13.1
Sergio Pardilla MTN - Qhubeka 12.8
Jens Debusschere Lotto Belisol 12.7
Vasil Kiryienka Team Sky 12.6
Moreno Hofland Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 12.5
Haimar Zubeldia Trek Factory Racing 11.5
David Arroyo Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 11.3
Davide Rebellin CCC Polsat Polkowice 11.3
Jens Voigt Trek Factory Racing 11.3
Maxime Monfort Lotto Belisol 11.2
Nikias Arndt Team Giant-Shimano 11.2
Alexey Lutsenko Astana Pro Team 11.0
Imanol Erviti Movistar Team 11.0
Luis Leon Sanchez Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 10.9
Kristof Vandewalle Trek Factory Racing 10.8
Philip Deignan Team Sky 10.5
Jose Ivan Gutierrez Movistar Team 10.4
Fredrik Kessiakoff Astana Pro Team 9.9
Tom Veelers Team Giant-Shimano 9.1
Markel Irizar Trek Factory Racing 9.1
Peter Kennaugh Team Sky 9.0
Antonio Piedra Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 8.6
Stephane Poulhies Cofidis, Solutions Créd 8.4
Danilo Hondo Trek Factory Racing 8.4
Maciej Paterski CCC Polsat Polkowice 8.3
Laurent Didier Trek Factory Racing 8.2
Andrea Peron Team Novo Nordisk 8.1
Ruben Plaza Movistar Team 7.7
Davide Vigano Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 7.1
David Tanner Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 7.0
Bartlomiej Matysiak CCC Polsat Polkowice 7.0
Luis Angel Mate Cofidis, Solutions Créd 7.0
Yoann Bagot Cofidis, Solutions Créd 6.8
Dmitriy Gruzdev Astana Pro Team 6.7
Andrey Zeits Astana Pro Team 6.6
Lars Petter Nordhaug Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 6.5
Tim Declercq Topsport Vlaanderen - B 6.5
Frederik Willems Lotto Belisol 6.4
Tim Wellens Lotto Belisol 5.8
Nico Sijmens Wanty - Groupe Gobert 5.8
Martijn Verschoor Team Novo Nordisk 5.6
Kenneth Vanbilsen Topsport Vlaanderen - B 5.5
Jacek Morajko CCC Polsat Polkowice 5.3
Thomas Degand Wanty - Groupe Gobert 4.8
Jonathan Hivert Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 4.7
Tom Van Asbroeck Topsport Vlaanderen - B 4.3
Francis De Greef Wanty - Groupe Gobert 4.2
Marcos Garcia Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 4.0
Andreas Stauff MTN - Qhubeka 4.0
Jaco Venter MTN - Qhubeka 4.0
Romain Zingle Cofidis, Solutions Créd 3.7
Mateusz Taciak CCC Polsat Polkowice 3.4
Jelle Vanendert Lotto Belisol 3.4
Pawel Franczak ActiveJet Team 3.3
Gregory Habeaux Wanty - Groupe Gobert 3.1
Jesus Ezquerra ActiveJet Team 3.0
Mario Gonzalez ActiveJet Team 3.0
David Muntaner ActiveJet Team 3.0
Lukasz Bodnar ActiveJet Team 3.0
Emanuel Piaskowy ActiveJet Team 3.0
Michal Podlaski ActiveJet Team 3.0
Nick Van Der Lijke Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 3.0
Lluís Guillermo Mas Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 3.0
Adrian Honkisz CCC Polsat Polkowice 3.0
Branislau Samoilau CCC Polsat Polkowice 3.0
Edwig Cammaerts Cofidis, Solutions Créd 3.0
Alvaro Cuadros Etixx 3.0
Lukasz Wisniowski Etixx 3.0
Alexis Guerin Etixx 3.0
Daniel Hoelgaard Etixx 3.0
Markus Hoelgaard Etixx 3.0
Tim Kerkhof Etixx 3.0
Samuel Spokes Etixx 3.0
Pablo Lechuga Rodriguez Euskadi 3.0
Jon Aberasturi Euskadi 3.0
Carlos Barbero Euskadi 3.0
Jon Larrinaga Euskadi 3.0
Miguel Minguez Euskadi 3.0
Haritz Orbe Euskadi 3.0
Beñat Txoperena Euskadi 3.0
Linus Gerdemann MTN - Qhubeka 3.0
Ignatas Konovalovas MTN - Qhubeka 3.0
Daniel Teklehaimanot MTN - Qhubeka 3.0
Merijn Korevaar Rabobank Development Team 3.0
Emiel Dolfsma Rabobank Development Team 3.0
Piotr Havik Rabobank Development Team 3.0
Lennard Hofstede Rabobank Development Team 3.0
Bert-Jan Lindeman Rabobank Development Team 3.0
Ivar Slik Rabobank Development Team 3.0
Martijn Tusveld Rabobank Development Team 3.0
Byron Patricio Guama Team Ecuador 3.0
Jose Ragonessi Team Ecuador 3.0
Segundo Navarrete Team Ecuador 3.0
Jaume Rovira Pous Team Ecuador 3.0
Jordi Simon Team Ecuador 3.0
Pablo Hidalgo Team Ecuador 3.0
Isaac Carbonell Team Ecuador 3.0
Daan Olivier Team Giant-Shimano 3.0
Javier Megias Leal Team Novo Nordisk 3.0
David Lozano Riba Team Novo Nordisk 3.0
Joonas Henttala Team Novo Nordisk 3.0
Kevin De Mesmaeker Team Novo Nordisk 3.0
Christopher Williams Team Novo Nordisk 3.0
Stijn Steels Topsport Vlaanderen - B 3.0
Victor Campenaerts Topsport Vlaanderen - B 3.0
Yves Lampaert Topsport Vlaanderen - B 3.0
Edward Theuns Topsport Vlaanderen - B 3.0
Roy Jans Wanty - Groupe Gobert 3.0
Kevin Van Melsen Wanty - Groupe Gobert 3.0

The budget will be the always lovely 150.00 credits.

The deadline to enter a team will be the start of the Prologue (TBA)

Scoring this might be crazy, but I hope Cyclingnews.com and/or http://www.vueltaandalucia.es/ will provide all the Intermediate Sprint and KOM info!

Here's cyclingnews.com coverage of the race last year, won by Valverde:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/vuelta-a-andalucia-ruta-ciclista-del-so...

Thanks!

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stevemarks wrote:
valverde 31.5
tom dumoulin 15.7
kittel 22.7
porte 25.7
mollema 22.9
thomas 17.8
taciak 3.4
gerdemann 3.0
degard 4.8

147.5

Jelle Valendert is my Gerdeman sub thanks.

posted by stevemarks [400 posts]
18th February 2014 - 13:19

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Ok, the following teams are confirmed for the Vuelta a Andalucia Challenge! Smile

chiv30
31.5 Alejandro Valverde
24.3 Bradley Wiggins
18.6 Gerald Ciolek
16.6 Luka Mezgec
15.4 Jakob Fuglsang
14.5 Simon Geschke
14.2 Javier Moreno
11.5 Haimar Zubeldia
3.4 Jelle Vanendert
150.0

chrisdstripes
25.7 Richie Porte
17.8 Geraint Thomas
17.3 Jon Izagirre
15.7 Tom Dumoulin
14.5 Simon Geschke
12.7 Jens Debusschere
11.3 Jens Voigt
11.0 Alexey Lutsenko
5.8 Tim Wellens
131.8

enrique
31.5 Alejandro Valverde
25.7 Richie Porte
22.9 Bauke Mollema
22.6 Edvald Boasson Hagen
18.6 Gerald Ciolek
17.8 Geraint Thomas
3.4 Jelle Vanendert
3.0 Linus Gerdemann
3.0 Daniel Teklehaimanot
148.5

Ghedebrav
16.6 Luka Mezgec
16.6 Tanel Kangert
15.4 Jakob Fuglsang
12.8 Sergio Pardilla
10.2 Luis Leon Sanchez
9.9 Fredrik Kessiakoff
7.0 Bartlomiej Matysiak
3.0 Linus Gerdemann
3.0 Samuel Spokes
94.5

Gkam84
16.6 Tanel Kangert
15.5 Laurens Ten Dam
15.1 Bart De Clercq
14.2 Javier Moreno
11.3 David Arroyo
10.2 Luis Leon Sanchez
10.4 Jose Ivan Gutierrez
9.9 Fredrik Kessiakoff
6.5 Lars Petter Nordhaug
109.7

livestrongnick
31.5 Alejandro Valverde
22.7 Michele Scarponi
22.7 Marcel Kittel
17.2 Daniel Navarro
15.3 Kevin Seeldraeyers
11.5 Haimar Zubeldia
11.3 Jens Voigt
10.2 Luis Leon Sanchez
4.7 Jonathan Hivert
147.1

Mikeh789
25.7 Richie Porte
17.2 Daniel Navarro
22.9 Bauke Mollema
22.7 Michele Scarponi
18.6 Gerald Ciolek
15.8 Amets Txurruka
13.1 Greg Henderson
7.0 Luis Angel Mate
3.0 Linus Gerdemann
146.0

ray silvester
31.5 Alejandro Valverde
25.7 Richie Porte
16.6 Tanel Kangert
15.8 Amets Txurruka
15.4 Jakob Fuglsang
11.3 Jens Voigt
11.2 Maxime Monfort
10.2 Luis Leon Sanchez
9.9 Fredrik Kessiakoff
147.6

stevemarks
31.5 Alejandro Valverde
25.7 Richie Porte
22.9 Bauke Mollema
22.7 Marcel Kittel
17.8 Geraint Thomas
15.7 Tom Dumoulin
4.8 Thomas Degand
3.4 Mateusz Taciak
3.0 Linus Gerdemann
147.5

STEVESPRO 79
31.5 Alejandro Valverde
25.7 Richie Porte
17.2 Daniel Navarro
16.6 Tanel Kangert
15.8 Amets Txurruka
14.2 Javier Moreno
10.2 Luis Leon Sanchez
9.9 Fredrik Kessiakoff
6.5 Lars Petter Nordhaug
147.6

stumps
25.7 Richie Porte
18.6 Gerald Ciolek
17.2 Daniel Navarro
16.6 Luka Mezgec
15.8 Amets Txurruka
15.5 Laurens Ten Dam
14.2 Javier Moreno
11.3 Jens Voigt
10.2 Luis Leon Sanchez
145.1

TERatcliffe26
31.5 Alejandro Valverde
25.7 Richie Porte
22.9 Bauke Mollema
18.6 Gerald Ciolek
15.7 Tom Dumoulin
15.4 Jakob Fuglsang
10.2 Luis Leon Sanchez
4.7 Jonathan Hivert
3.4 Jelle Vanendert
148.1

Twybaydos
31.5 Alejandro Valverde
25.7 Richie Porte
22.9 Bauke Mollema
17.2 Daniel Navarro
16.6 Tanel Kangert
15.7 Tom Dumoulin
10.2 Luis Leon Sanchez
4.8 Thomas Degand
3.0 Linus Gerdemann
147.6

Race start is only about 22 hours away. The deadline to enter a team will be 1:00PM CET or race start, whichever comes earlier.

Vive Le Road.cc Fantasy Cycling Game!

posted by enrique [1467 posts]
18th February 2014 - 15:10

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How the mighty have fallen.....no-one going Wiggo when a race starts with a 7k prologue Surprise

posted by ray silvester [1709 posts]
18th February 2014 - 15:25

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ray silvester wrote:
How the mighty have fallen.....no-one going Wiggo when a race starts with a 7k prologue Surprise

I had wiggo for a while but figured that even with a prologue this is just training for the classics Thinking

'Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you'

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posted by livestrongnick [1669 posts]
19th February 2014 - 0:47

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Linus is now on cycling fever - I think he is riding

I would, however, like to take out Kangert for Arredondo, this is bound to be lower than 16.6

Revised team:
31.5 Alejandro Valverde
25.7 Richie Porte
22.9 Bauke Mollema
17.2 Daniel Navarro
<16.6 Julian David Arredondo (3 or something)
15.7 Tom Dumoulin
10.2 Luis Leon Sanchez
4.8 Thomas Degand
3.0 Linus Gerdemann

posted by Twybaydos [266 posts]
19th February 2014 - 1:40

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Twybaydos wrote:
... Kangert for Arredondo...
... <16.6 Julian David Arredondo (3 or something) ...

That (!) is a game changer right there... what nice pick! The 2nd highest scorer out of San Luis with an average of 37.0 points on a mountain stage... He got 7 points the day of the 19.2 K time trial, too... You may end up beating the crap out of us with this pick... I can't believe all of us missed him! Good choice!

At San Luis he was at 3.0... I wish I could give Dave the data to see what he would go up to, but I'll value him at 19.0 and that'll square you away at a cool 150.0 points... I've also added him above...

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posted by enrique [1467 posts]
19th February 2014 - 4:30

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Bradley Wiggins 24.3
Alejandro Valverde 31.5
Gerald Ciolek 18.6
Mateusz Taciak 3.4
Amets Txurruka 15.8
Thomas Degand 4.8
Bauke Mollema Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 22.9
Jon Izagirre Movistar Team 15.3
Luis Leon Sanchez Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 10.9

147.5

posted by northstar [1083 posts]
19th February 2014 - 11:47

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If its not too late (you did say start of prologue,which is not yet) I will swap Fuglsang and LL Sanchez and bring in Arredondo and Degand (taking out 15.4 and 10.2 + my 1.9 spare credits, replacing with 19 and 8.4, so 27.5 replaced with 27.4)

Cheers Enrique

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3752 posts]
19th February 2014 - 12:32

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As for Arredondo, he wasn't due t ride until yesterday I believe

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3752 posts]
19th February 2014 - 12:34

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Arredondo seems to be the next big thingin a lot of people's eyes....but do you really think he's going to be outscoring Kangert?

One to watch I guess

posted by ray silvester [1709 posts]
19th February 2014 - 14:46

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Less than 25 guys left to go, current situation is Sky Sky Sky...

1) Kiryienka
2) Thomas
3) Wiggo
4) Moreno
5) Geschke
6) Zubeldia
7) De Clercq
8) EBH

Porte, Lulu Sanchez, Tom Dumoulin, Valverde, Monfort and Mollema are probably the top guys left to go...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1525 posts]
19th February 2014 - 15:24

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Missed out Jon Izagirre who has just gone fastest! Thats 1,3,6 for me as things stand Big Grin

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19th February 2014 - 15:25

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Tommy D goes fastest. I'm nailing this - shame I can't do this in the proper game...

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posted by chrisdstripes [1525 posts]
19th February 2014 - 15:37

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Valverde wins - last man in!

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19th February 2014 - 15:40

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Prologue 1 Valverde 8:22 2 Dumoulin +7 3 Izaguirre +9 4 Kiryienka +13 5 Thomas +14 6 Wiggins +14 7 Moreno +15 8 Porte +15 - I think Geschke 9th

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posted by chrisdstripes [1525 posts]
19th February 2014 - 15:42

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1,2,8 for me

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19th February 2014 - 15:48

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1, 10, 11, 14 for me

'Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you'

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posted by livestrongnick [1669 posts]
19th February 2014 - 18:06

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
... I will swap Fuglsang and LL Sanchez [for] Arredondo and Degand...

Ok, got that...

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posted by enrique [1467 posts]
19th February 2014 - 18:21

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1,6,8,9,10,16 for me Cool

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19th February 2014 - 18:21

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northstar wrote:
Bradley Wiggins 24.3
Alejandro Valverde 31.5
Gerald Ciolek 18.6
Mateusz Taciak 3.4
Amets Txurruka 15.8
Thomas Degand 4.8
Bauke Mollema Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 22.9
Jon Izagirre Movistar Team 15.3
Luis Leon Sanchez Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 10.9

147.5

Ok, confirmed...

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posted by enrique [1467 posts]
19th February 2014 - 18:22

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looks like 1,7,16,17,19 for me and all 9 riders still in the game

5 scoring KOM climbs tomorrow(not including the non scoring Summit Finish) so hoping for a Choo-Choo/Jensie breakaway.....classic sawtooth stages on this tour all the way through

Who'd have put Kiryienka ahead of Porte,Wiggins,Gee and EBH as the top SKY prologuer?

posted by ray silvester [1709 posts]
19th February 2014 - 18:24

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1 VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro
2 DUMOULIN Tom
3 IZAGIRRE Ion
4 KIRYIENKA Vasil
5 THOMAS Geraint
6 WIGGINS Bradley
7 PORTE Richie
8 MORENO Javier
9 GESCHKE Simon
10 ZUBELDIA AGIRRE Haimar
11 SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon
12 DE CLERCQ Bart
13 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
14 KITTEL Marcel
15 VANDEWALLE Kristof
16 FUGLSANG Jakob
17 KANGERT Tanel
18 IRIZAR ARANBURU Markel
19 KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
20 WELLENS Tim

posted by chiv30 [827 posts]
19th February 2014 - 18:27

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chrisdstripes wrote:
Prologue

1 Valverde 8:22
2 Dumoulin +7
3 Izaguirre +9
4 Kiryienka +13
5 Thomas +14
6 Wiggins +14
7 Moreno +15
8 Porte +15 ...

Good race coverage, Chris! Smile

chiv30 wrote:
1 VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro
2 DUMOULIN Tom
3 IZAGIRRE Ion
4 KIRYIENKA Vasil
5 THOMAS Geraint
...

Thanks, chiv!

And here we go, our first results for the Vuelta a Andalucia!

Much fun for everyone!

As always, please check for errors and corrections . You know how I am with my maths! Smile

Rider Scores Stage 1 Vuelta a Andalucia

Alejandro Valverde Movistar Team 45
Tom Dumoulin Team Giant Shimano 39
Jon Izagirre Movistar Team 38
Vasili Kiryienka Team Sky 29
Geraint Thomas Team Sky 26
Bradley Wiggins Team Sky 23
Javier Moreno Movistar Team 22
Richie Porte Team Sky 20
Simon Geschke Team Giant Shimano 14
Haimar Zubeldia Trek Factory Racing 12
Luis León Sánchez Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 10
Bart De Clercq Lotto Belisol 9
Edvald Boasson Hagen Team Sky 8
Marcel Kittel Team Giant Shimano 7
Kristof Vandewalle Trek Factory Racing 6
Jakob Fuglsang Astana Pro Team 5
Jose Herrada Movistar Team 5
Eros Capecchi Movistar Team 5
Ruben Plaza Movistar Team 5
Imanol Erviti Movistar Team 5
Jose Ivan Gutierrez Movistar Team 5
Tanel Kangert Astana Pro Team 4
Markel Irizar Trek Factory Racing 3
Fredrik Kessiakoff Astana Pro Team 2
Tim Wellens Lotto Belisol 1

And our Stage 1 and Overall Leaderboard for the Vuelta A.

chrisdstripes 138
stevemarks 137
chiv30 121
northstar 116
TERatcliffe26 104
Twybaydos 104
STEVESPRO 79 103
enrique 99
ray silvester 86
livestrongnick 74
stumps 52
Gkam84 47
Ghedebrav 21
Mikeh789 20

Chris strikes again! Wow. Pretty cool! Tomorrow a hilly stage with a climb on the end. What will we see? Any splits? Thanks for participating guys! Smile

Vive Le Road.cc Fantasy Cycling Game!

posted by enrique [1467 posts]
19th February 2014 - 18:35

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stage 2 live on eurosport now.....or for ull of us pirates

http://www.sportlemon.tv/20140219/vv53043511bb9ba3.92733772-751905.html

posted by ray silvester [1709 posts]
20th February 2014 - 14:52

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Good little day for me......1,4,5,10,16 by the looks....where's your Arredondo now?

Kittel DNF by the way

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20th February 2014 - 20:26

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4,5,7,16 for me, but i think twybados has this one sewn up.

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it. Gaius Julius Caesar.

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posted by stumps [2642 posts]
20th February 2014 - 20:50

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Can I start this fantasy day over....all 3 comps were a mare today.... Yawn

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20th February 2014 - 21:00

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ray silvester wrote:
Good little day for me......1,4,5,10,16 by the looks....where's your Arredondo now?

Kittel DNF by the way

Had I not changed my team for Arrendondo, Id probably be leading I think

Just 1,2,4 and 9 for me

posted by TERatcliffe26 [3752 posts]
20th February 2014 - 21:52

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chiv30 wrote:
Can I start this fantasy day over....all 3 comps were a mare today.... Yawn

Or a Demare?

posted by ray silvester [1709 posts]
21st February 2014 - 0:28

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TERatcliffe26 wrote:
Had I not changed my team for Arrendondo, Id probably be leading...

Wow, letting Sanchez go cost you 31 points today and 10 on the 1st day... Sad

You know who I am.

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21st February 2014 - 4:59

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